Suburban Guys .... Questions for you !!

[ChiefRocka]

I went to look at this thing this afternoon .... '63
-
-

-
-
It caught my attention when I saw the pics on CL, and it happened to be in my town, few miles from home.

His posting expired, so I cant post the link.

The add read it was a project, all glass was intact, raised crossmember, P/S, 350, 4spd, new intake/carb/headers...4 new bags included, 8 valves, extra parts...

At first glance, it's bad arse..untill you walk up and see the hack job on the rear suspension. It's running a 5-lug rear-axle...with a two link bolted to leafspring pad , under axle...with a track bar located under the axle....

I should of snapped a pic, but didnt want to seem too pushy.

The front end is a new bushing style crossmember...the center of the drag link has been cut and the outter ends welded on top of the center, assuming to compensate for the raised crossmember (WTF ?!?!)

Looks like a clean 350....probably a muncie....P/S mounted to what IS NOT one of CaptionFabs creations....

Dash heater and ashtray smoothed...dash and column both have igniton keys.

He was right in his add .... it is a project that has to be finished.

Oh, the front inners are gone...with 1x2 tubing zig zagged to locate the hood springs/hinges....

Loose bolts here and there....3 nuts to space the L fender lower mount ... 'popcorn' welding thruout

Sounds pretty bad, huh ??

Anyway...the questions.

How are the rear wood floor supported ?? Crossmembers right ??

Currently, its got a HUGE fuel tank sitting almost as high as the notch...with looks to be a full, uncut KP notch.

I have a rolling '63 C-20 chassis...that is super original...wonder if the wheelbase is the same ??

I like the body, just dont care too much for the frame mods...it does lay out really nice..

He is asking $3500 or trades.

I offered him my 71 SS NOVA...Body is 90%...and no drivetrain..(before viewing)...I mentioned keep your drivetrain for the NOVA...its probably the best thing its got !



What you all think ??

More pics, I know....

[jmedero]

Body looks nice. Everything else seems like crap. Dude I have a nova one owner 85k miles... Keep that baby. Get the body if you can.
Posted via Mobile Device

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by jmedero

Body looks nice. Everything else seems like crap. Dude I have a nova one owner 85k miles... Keep that baby. Get the body if you can.
Posted via Mobile Device

Dont have the money...

Offered him my wheeler project too...'86 Samurai...2000 vortec/dana44's/4l60/thousands in new parts...

We will see !!

[Driveway Dreams]

Looks good, sounds decent. How much work are you wanting to put in to it? That would be my question.
Posted via Mobile Device

[jonzcustomshop]

ok: the wood floor is supported with cross braces just like a fleetside truck.
the frame is a swb chassis 115 inch.
the rear frame rails -last 2 feet of the sub need to be retained, because of a drop for the rear pan and to mount the rear bumper-just like a front bumper mounts.

front frame mounts are the same as pu, rear "cab" mounts, same location, but smaller and narrower than a pu.
very front rad mounts on a sub are made of vulcanized rubber like a 3/4 ton truck, maybe for a quieter ride?

check gohstrangers sub thread, I posted a pic of the rear frame rails.

I just pulled the front floor out of a rollover sub, still has the chassis(66), and the rear lift gate...
ltm if you need parts, not mine but I can get 'em... still has the complete rear floor.

trade would probably be fiine, especially if you dont' care for the nova anymore... yes it might be worth more right now... but who has cash to buy anything lately?

from the pic the sub bodys great what is missing..
lift gate supports?
rear window locks?
probably cost 5-700$$ if they are missing....

[Dinos63]

chief it looks like it has a clean body and all the glass and hatch 2500 i would think, but with your skills that stuff would be a piece of cake for you

[gostranger]

cheif make sure if you get it it has all or close to all like mentioned if it has slider windows the latches are 2-3 hundred a pair the hardware for the rear clamshell set up is expensive and the rubber for all the windows is going to run around 300 bux right off the bat believe me i love the burb and i would get it but keep in mind all the stuff you dont have is kind of expensive as far as the frame you can build new swctions of the frame and make new trailing arms for fairly cheap!let me know if you have any questions

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop

ok: the wood floor is supported with cross braces just like a fleetside truck.
the frame is a swb chassis 115 inch.
the rear frame rails -last 2 feet of the sub need to be retained, because of a drop for the rear pan and to mount the rear bumper-just like a front bumper mounts.

front frame mounts are the same as pu, rear "cab" mounts, same location, but smaller and narrower than a pu.
very front rad mounts on a sub are made of vulcanized rubber like a 3/4 ton truck, maybe for a quieter ride?

check gohstrangers sub thread, I posted a pic of the rear frame rails.

I just pulled the front floor out of a rollover sub, still has the chassis(66), and the rear lift gate...
ltm if you need parts, not mine but I can get 'em... still has the complete rear floor.

trade would probably be fiine, especially if you dont' care for the nova anymore... yes it might be worth more right now... but who has cash to buy anything lately?

from the pic the sub bodys great what is missing..
lift gate supports?
rear window locks?
probably cost 5-700$$ if they are missing....

Originally Posted by Dinos63

chief it looks like it has a clean body and all the glass and hatch 2500 i would think, but with your skills that stuff would be a piece of cake for you

Originally Posted by gostranger

cheif make sure if you get it it has all or close to all like mentioned if it has slider windows the latches are 2-3 hundred a pair the hardware for the rear clamshell set up is expensive and the rubber for all the windows is going to run around 300 bux right off the bat believe me i love the burb and i would get it but keep in mind all the stuff you dont have is kind of expensive as far as the frame you can build new swctions of the frame and make new trailing arms for fairly cheap!let me know if you have any questions

Guys ... you are great, thanks for the info !!

Forgot to metion...he has ALL the glass (windshields/doors/sliders) ... the hatch with hinges.

I believe the gate supports were bent he said.

Does sound like a ok deal I guess.

I would keep it bagged...although I like to start with a 'virgin' chassis ...

So I guess, my '63 C-20 Chassis would be the perfect canidate, huh ??

Thanks again fellas....

[padresag]

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

Guys ... you are great, thanks for the info !!

Forgot to metion...he has ALL the glass (windshields/doors/sliders) ... the hatch with hinges.

I believe the gate supports were bent he said.

Does sound like a ok deal I guess.

I would keep it bagged...although I like to start with a 'virgin' chassis ...

So I guess, my '63 C-20 Chassis would be the perfect canidate, huh ??

Thanks again fellas....

to bad that you are not closer as I have a suburban frame(65), not modified that you could have. heading for scrap as running out of room
you would have to shorten the c20 frame and add an extension to the rear of the frame and you need the rear body mounting frame brkts
ron

[blackedoutharley]

Originally Posted by padresag

to bad that you are not closer as I have a suburban frame(65), not modified that you could have. heading for scrap as running out of room

Road trip north and you have the virgin frame you want to do the suspension mods yourself!

[gostranger]

i would agree with Dino it sounds like it is worth $2500 with all the work that needs to be done to it that nova should be worh at least that much or more!!!

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by gostranger

i would agree with Dino it sounds like it is worth $2500 with all the work that needs to be done to it that nova should be worh at least that much or more!!!

Just for kicks, I listed my Nova on CL a while back...for $5K....as is (no drivetrain) .... True SS, originally a 350/350, bench, column shifted car, green with saddlewood interior.
-
-
One contractor guy was willing to install a new roof on my 2200 sq ft home in trade for the car !!

[gostranger]

i am telling you the nova has some collector value i bet you can get more for that than you would have to give for the sub no problem!! out east here that thing would go for a good dollor being it is rust free!! hope you are able to get the sub but dont over pay there is some work for you there but you will have to put some cash into it also!!

[64shortc10]

Here is the craigslist ad! Anytime I see something cool on craigslist I post it in the Here you go DINO cl ad NOT MINE!

bagged 1963 chevy suburban - $3500 (hollister)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: 2011-04-11, 9:32PM PDT
Reply to: sale-ptmau-2319941961@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


project still needs work
project still needs work
clean title and registered ready to go no smog needed
asking 3500 obo or possible trade for a scout 4x4 or a jeep 4x4 or any thing 4x4 let me know what u have
body drop all body touches the ground
runs good
has a chevy 350 v8
with a 4spd manual transmission
new block hugger headers
new edelbrock intake manifold
new edelbrock carb
new rear brake shoes
new brake calipers
new power steering gear box
fluidine aluminum radiator
have all windows in good condition no cracks or chips on them
it has front baggs but have crack
crossmember been raised to allow body to touch ground

parts that need to be put on but included
engine driven compressor
all 4 new air bags
5 gallon tank
extreme air 350 psi valves and gauges
75 feet of 1/2 air line
50 feet of 1/4 air line for gauges
front 2nd and 3rd row seats that i was going to put on tan with red

and much more if interested give me a call at 831 205 1404
i will not part out
i will not part out
i will not part out


Here is the shortcut to all cool craigslist ads I've come across!
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=373948
Tony from Norcal

[hotrodhomi]

Chief, you have the skills to make this cool. Make it happen.

[**grumpy**]

Originally Posted by hotrodhomi

Chief, you have the skills to make this cool. Make it happen.

^^^What he said!

[clemdaddy]

man, i like it... even at 3500 i think its a deal. that body is straight looking.
your C20 frame would have to be cut down to a short bed length to start with... unless it already is. can't you fix up all the crap-work on existing frame. seems that would be better.

i sure miss my burb.

[64shortc10]

Here is a short wheelbase 65 frame for $200.00 bucks I'm sure you can find a frame! If you wanted to.


1965 chevy s/b - $200 (oroville)

Date: 2011-03-10, 11:03AM PST
Reply to: sale-qjahc-2258095758@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

complete frame sand blasted and ready for powder coating. has front cross member. not a rolling chasis.payed over 300 to have blasted.great condition. have lots of other parts as well.what do you need?

Location: oroville
Tony from Norcal
Posted via Mobile Device

[64shortc10]

http://chevytalk.info/noahsclassifie...&fromfromid=81
Found another chassis!
Tony from Norcal

[ChiefRocka]

Thanks guys for the 'you got skills' comments...

Now you got me all fired up !!

Course, i still have the BBW to build !!

[hotroddr]

the body "looks" good but i would make sure its not just bondo over rust covered by primer. Primer hides a lot of issues. Looks like a great start to a project though. A little clean up on the work that is done so far and you would have an awesome ride.

[Captainfab]

I would go for it if you can make it work. Not only is it a Suburban, but it's a '63 to boot!The Suburbans make great family rigs. You, the wife and the kids can all ride in style.

[lakeroadster]

That Nova looks clean and straight.... it is for sure worth a lot more than the 'burb to the masses. If all it needs is a motor and tranny stick to that $5k number.

[likaroc13]

that thing sure does look sweet sitting there in those pics...i agree with double-checking the body, but it looks pretty solid from pics...if it doesn't get you in over your head, i'd say jump on it...like Capt'n said, it would make a cool family ride!

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by likaroc13

that thing sure does look sweet sitting there in those pics...i agree with double-checking the body, but it looks pretty solid from pics...if it doesn't get you in over your head, i'd say jump on it...like Capt'n said, it would make a cool family ride!

I agree on the family ride...for sure !!

I think I might do the deal after all !!

The kid that owns it is coming over my house to check out the NOVA (I towed it home from SJ)

This Burban is definately a project (lot of loose ends to tie up), but I really like the way these old burbs look.

The Nova is in good shape, however it makes me feel better knowing that I picked it up for free (well, almost...I traded it for a garage door...my pops gave me the materials, and I installed it...so my time and driving)

I originally mentioned to the kid to keep the engine/tranny out of the burb for the Nova....gonna try and back out of that offer, as I dont have another powerplant for it.

We will see !!