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05-17-2011, 08:23 PM | #1 |
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Headlight relays need help with them
Im about 1/2 way done. It wont be clean but the next one I'll do will be now that I know how.
Do I run 2 wires from the battery to the relays? or can I tie the 2 post on the relay together, then put 1 inline fuse before the battery? Do I have to use 2 fuses? And is 85 on both relays ground? 1 Read the artical 2 Parts list 2 bosch relays, spade connecters, wire, and inline fuse. 3 Look at wiring sheet 4 Decide that you can do this 5 Start by finding the 14LG and the 18LT wire on the back of the left headlamp. 6 Disconnect the (-Neg) battery cable. Mount the relays to the core support above the horn. You may have to make room for them. 7 Follow the 14LG wire towards the fuseblock. Mark it. This is the one to cut. 8 Follow the 18LT wire towards the fuseblock. Mark it 1st. Cut this one also. 9 Do the wiring: cut 18LT (or low beam) and run the wire from the fuseblock to Terminal 86 on the relay. run the other end and that comes from the headlamp plug to Terminal 87 on the relay. cut 14LG (or hi beam) and run the wire from the fuse block to the Terminal 86 on the 2nd relay. run the other end to Terminal 87 of the 2nd relay. 10 Terminal 85 goes to ground. 11 Run a heavy wire (12ga.) from + Battery Post to Terminal 30 of both relays. Just run it through the stock wiring across the radiator. Add a inline fuse on this one. 12 make sure every thing is connected, secure wires, replace (- battery cable ) 13 Enjoy Brighter Head Lights ^Thats what Im going by. __________________
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05-17-2011, 09:42 PM | #2 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
Run a separate fused wire to each relay. You don't want a failed fuse to take out both your high beam and low beam.
And yes, 85 is ground on each relay. This may help:
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05-17-2011, 11:14 PM | #3 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
Did everyone make the cut just after the wire gutter across radiator? Or did you cut just in front of the inner driver side fender?
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05-17-2011, 11:24 PM | #4 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
Im ready to go, I just wanna know where I should 'snip' at. Ive already snipped at the front of the inner fender, but could I snip above the horn and get same results but cleaner look?
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05-17-2011, 11:38 PM | #5 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
I would love to do these mod but it sounds confusing to me!!
I think I will probably take the easy way out and just buy the set up from LMC. Good luck though oldblue1968chevy! Keith |
05-18-2011, 12:45 AM | #6 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
I got it.
Its really not hard at all, the directions are just confusing as heck!!! You need a roll of black 14 guage, red 10 guage misc electrical connectors shrink wrap etc etc Took me around 4 hours but im slow as heck, didnt know what I was doing etc etc etc Its quite quite easy and the lights are WAY brighter, I just gotta get em adjusted!! Cleaning up the wirnig tomorow! This goes down with disc brakes and swaybar for the front!
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05-18-2011, 01:29 AM | #7 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
You can pull your power off the horn relay. I like it better then a bunch of wires going to the battery and the horn relay buss bar should be pretty close to 14V all the time. In my 72 I ran an 8 ga. wire up to the radiator support to an insulated terminal block that I used to power the relays. I like to use fusible link as well in all the power circuits but fuses work too.
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05-18-2011, 07:38 AM | #8 | |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
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I didn't snip any wires. I simply slid them out of the back of the factory connectors by depressing the little ears with a small, flat blade screwdriver. This is a great mod. oldblue1968chevy won't be replacing his headlight switch ever again and his night vision from the cab of his truck just improved. All for about $15 in parts.
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05-18-2011, 09:25 AM | #9 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
I am running a whole new headlight wiring setup with relay kits I got from O'Rielly's. I am using new plug connectors for the headlights. Also since this is on a vehicle that has the dimmer switch in the column I am using an on-off-on toggle switch mounted in the dash.
The whold process is a little tricky, but I am taking my time and everything seems to be working out ok. This is practice for the relay set up I hope to do on one fo my project 67-72 trucks in the future, probably the '67.
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06-09-2011, 09:17 PM | #10 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
Hey Guys, sorry to mention this, but I feel it is important. The whole idea is to get full voltage/amperage to the headlights, but the replacement sockets and the original ones, too, are 16ga! This is WAY to light to do the job we want to do. I used the original type
16ga from the switch to my relay bank as kickers, then I ran 12ga all the way from the relays to the the headlights! I took the sockets apart and replaced the 16ga pigtails with the 12ga runs. My relays are mounted on the passengers fender so the battery runs are really short at 18" and 4 1/2'. I have 14.2v or battery voltage at the lights! I know it's fussy and takes more time, but it is worth it, especially if you run Halogen or HID lights, and it keeps the sockets from getting so hot! Best wishes, Les |
06-09-2011, 09:25 PM | #11 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
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06-09-2011, 11:31 PM | #12 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
Thanks roadmarks!
Yall think i'll be okay as is, (not planning on going HID or anything)..
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06-10-2011, 02:45 AM | #13 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
I ran one wire to both relays. Never had a issue yet 4 years running. The relay cares all the load and then the head light switch has hardly anything on it. I guess running bigger wire to the lights is OK but I don't know if it's worth it unless you do go to HID's.
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06-10-2011, 03:03 AM | #14 |
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06-10-2011, 06:25 AM | #15 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
18ga doesn't belong on a motor vehicle unless it runs on 4 Double As! 16ga is as light as I go. I melted a headlight socket once so now I don't take any chances. If you agree with what I said and can use the information, great! If you disagree, also great! That's why I enjoy these forums.
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06-10-2011, 11:12 AM | #16 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
Ive gotta ?
I have a 16 guage wire going from alt to my (+) battery. Thats not big enough, is it?........
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06-10-2011, 11:31 AM | #17 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
I don't think so, and neither did the factory. I believe you should make it 12ga and solder all the connections. Crimp-ons and Scotch Loks are just places for corrosion to start. Corrosion = voltage drop and resistance. Use heat shrink tubing on the joints and you almost can't go wrong! Good luck!
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06-10-2011, 11:38 AM | #18 |
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
subscibed for future use..thx all for your input ..
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
Deceided to dust this off...^^^
EDIT!!! Whoops, dusted off the wrong one!
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
This thread should be a sticky! Good reference info.
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Re: Headlight relays need help with them
It's in the electrical forum in the the electrical FAQS thread.
........ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=188478
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