Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**SactoJim** · 05-20-2011, 03:27 PM

I have "old school" stepped A-arms on my truck with stock spindles. Had this setup forever and it works fine except for the excessive bumpsteer. If I flip the tie rod on the spindle, the geometry will be much better.

Anyone here do this?....and if so, what's the easiest and most cost effective way?

I know DJM has a kit with drill, tap, and inserts for like $140 or so......not real interested in that route cuz I'll only do it once!

Hottrucks · 05-20-2011, 03:44 PM

I thought the same thing I'm in for the lesson!!

to bad we couldn't find a few trust worthy guys to go in on a kit ?? like you said your only going to use it once??

Scot_Douglas · 05-21-2011, 02:03 PM

You could try this:

tie rod inserts

All you need for this is 3/4" drill bit. I think the taper is the same as ours.

Luther Grimace · 01-27-2013, 07:09 PM

Did anyone ever try this? I ordered a pair today. Hopefully they will fit my tie rods.
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FlammedC10 · 01-27-2013, 10:38 PM

I am also interested knowing if these inserts will work because I too have "old school" stepped arms and would like to flip the tie rods.

Reyals Bemus · 04-12-2013, 12:11 PM

Hey Luther, did those inserts work out?

Ben_Yeaton · 01-08-2018, 05:23 PM

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I'm interested in finding if anyone has found a bushing that works with the C10 tie rod ends. I'm familiar with the press in bushing from the VW world; it's a common practice on lowered aircooled cars. They look this this:

The other options I see online are for Jeep applications and a Dana 30 option, but no specifics to the taper values or any measurements. Those look like they may work:

Maybe ordering a few different options and checking fitment would be worth it? Seems like this would be a very useful and cheap modification if the specifics can be ironed out. Thoughts?

**PGSigns** · 01-09-2018, 08:21 AM

If you are running stock wheels you may want to do a quick check to see if the tie rod will clear the rim. Also there is the 73 and up tie rod end that is a bit bigger around and conversion sleeves are our there for the disc swaps. That would allow the taper to be deeper in the spindle for a better hold.
Jimmy

hewittca · 01-09-2018, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGSigns

If you are running stock wheels you may want to do a quick check to see if the tie rod will clear the rim. Also there is the 73 and up tie rod end that is a bit bigger around and conversion sleeves are our there for the disc swaps. That would allow the taper to be deeper in the spindle for a better hold.
Jimmy

That's a great idea about swapping to the later tierod ends! If I don't like how mine look after reaming out for the stock tierods, I will definitely go this route.

bdiamond · 01-15-2018, 09:41 PM

Could you have a machine shop slug the hole and redrill it the other way? I'm thinking drill the hole to a uniform diameter, machine a slug a few thousandths bigger so it'll be a press fit then redrill the taper on the other side.

05-20-2011, 03:27 PM	#1
SactoJim Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,970	Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) I have "old school" stepped A-arms on my truck with stock spindles. Had this setup forever and it works fine except for the excessive bumpsteer. If I flip the tie rod on the spindle, the geometry will be much better. Anyone here do this?....and if so, what's the easiest and most cost effective way? I know DJM has a kit with drill, tap, and inserts for like $140 or so......not real interested in that route cuz I'll only do it once! __________________ 72 Cheyenne SWB Fleet Nut & bolt frame off in progress...99.9999% - supercharged 383 - 4 wheel discs - relocated fuel tank - My Build Thread

05-20-2011, 03:44 PM	#2
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) I thought the same thing I'm in for the lesson!! to bad we couldn't find a few trust worthy guys to go in on a kit ?? like you said your only going to use it once?? __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

05-21-2011, 02:03 PM	#3
Scot_Douglas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Howell, MI Posts: 403	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) You could try this: tie rod inserts All you need for this is 3/4" drill bit. I think the taper is the same as ours. __________________ 1964 C10 - sold to chris1044 1966 C10 Build 'Fread

01-27-2013, 07:09 PM	#4
Luther Grimace Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 380	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) Did anyone ever try this? I ordered a pair today. Hopefully they will fit my tie rods. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1955.2 Chevy 3100, 6bt, Getrag G360 5-speed, NP205, Dana 60/70 - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=536540 1992 Chevy K1500 Silverado ECSB 1965 "Crewcab" Chevelle 300 Deluxe - soon to be LBZ Duramax/4L85E powered

01-27-2013, 10:38 PM	#5
FlammedC10 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 21	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) I am also interested knowing if these inserts will work because I too have "old school" stepped arms and would like to flip the tie rods.

04-12-2013, 12:11 PM	#6
Reyals Bemus Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Billerica, MA Posts: 329	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) Hey Luther, did those inserts work out?

01-08-2018, 05:23 PM	#7
Ben_Yeaton Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 141	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I'm interested in finding if anyone has found a bushing that works with the C10 tie rod ends. I'm familiar with the press in bushing from the VW world; it's a common practice on lowered aircooled cars. They look this this: The other options I see online are for Jeep applications and a Dana 30 option, but no specifics to the taper values or any measurements. Those look like they may work: Maybe ordering a few different options and checking fitment would be worth it? Seems like this would be a very useful and cheap modification if the specifics can be ironed out. Thoughts?

01-09-2018, 08:21 AM	#8
PGSigns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hayes Va Posts: 4,569	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) If you are running stock wheels you may want to do a quick check to see if the tie rod will clear the rim. Also there is the 73 and up tie rod end that is a bit bigger around and conversion sleeves are our there for the disc swaps. That would allow the taper to be deeper in the spindle for a better hold. Jimmy __________________ 60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131 Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need? 1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver 1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home 1965 Suburban 2003 3500 Duramax 2005 Ultra Classic

01-15-2018, 09:41 PM	#10
bdiamond Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 459	Re: Tie Rod Flip (to lessen bumpsteer) Could you have a machine shop slug the hole and redrill it the other way? I'm thinking drill the hole to a uniform diameter, machine a slug a few thousandths bigger so it'll be a press fit then redrill the taper on the other side.



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