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Monty · 06-06-2011, 11:01 PM

hi. i've been lurking here for a while and finally got the inspiration to tackle my suburban. it's a '72 2x4 with a few dings, but it came from Nevada and has almost no rust. i few years ago, i stuffed a 427 truck engine into it but never got the final few parts (carb and truck distributer) for it.

well, it's time to get back to work on it. i read a couple of threads about the 4x4 conversion and have a friend with 1 ton runnin' gear. think i'll go down that road.

thinkin' i'm gonna need some help here and there.

Monty

**scotts62** · 06-07-2011, 09:57 PM

Hey

from OKC!

1ATony · 06-08-2011, 01:06 PM

Welcome to the site Monty

Monty · 06-08-2011, 05:47 PM

thanks, guys! lots of info here to sop up. it's gonna cost me some $$$, i can tell right now.

pope · 06-13-2011, 07:10 PM

Good luck on your build! You'll have to post some pictures of your burb as you go through the processes.

Monty · 06-13-2011, 07:43 PM

yea, i have a bud here that has a Dana 60 front end and 14 bolt rear i'm trying to get. should be straightforeward once i get the parts. i've been running 67-72 chevys since my first truck ('72 GMC 1/2 T).

i always wanted to do a build like this but never had the space or $$$. now my only logistics problem is when i put the 4x4 under it, it'll be too big to fit my garage...

Monty

pope · 06-13-2011, 09:02 PM

The S.V. eh? I plan on moving back to Wilsall when I am done here.

Monty · 06-13-2011, 09:43 PM

yea, the upper Shields. sorry about the edit on that post, but i thought i was getting away from the topic (like i have a tendency of doin'). the downside of that area is the vehicle/deer collisions take a heavy toll on older trucks.

pope · 07-25-2011, 08:35 PM

How is your truck coming along? any progress?

Monty · 07-25-2011, 09:06 PM

Hi, Pope. very good to hear from you. hope things are well.

the truck is comming along ok. got the 2wd front crossmember/axles stripped out and the Dana 60 installed on 52" springs. the rear end is in progress. the Eaton/trailing arms are gone and the 14 bolt is sitting there, but not bolted in yet. i'm using 64" springs in the rear and while i have the rear spring mounts whipped (via a DIY4X shackle flip kit), i'm looking for a suitable front spring mount for the rear springs. i may have to fab something.

today, i got the auto trans steering column replaced with one from a manual trans and put the pedal assy. with clutch in.

pope · 07-26-2011, 08:12 PM

Everything is fine here. Counting down the weeks till we are outa here, really getting anxious! What gear ratio did your eaton have?

luifer76 · 07-26-2011, 09:22 AM

Welcome to the site.....

Monty · 07-26-2011, 08:24 PM

glad your tour is getting short.

i dunno about the ratio. i'll look at it if you want. i never drove the sub. i bought it less engine for a project. it was behind a 350/350.

pope · 07-26-2011, 08:33 PM

Sure, if you think about it when you are out that would be great. I am still running an eaton, but it has 4.57 gears, and would like to buy a set of 4.10 gears to help get my rpm down a little.

Monty · 07-27-2011, 06:59 PM

ok, i think i have the 3.73 gear set in this one. the option plate in the glove box doesn't list a special order ratio. is there a code stamped somewhere?

if not, i'll pull the pumpkin and check for ya. whatever it is, it's yours if you want it.

pope · 07-27-2011, 08:32 PM

Cool! thanks for checking! If it is an Eaton H050 or H072 I have never seen a tag on one my self but there may be one attached to a third member bolt or one of the rear cover bolts. 3.73 gears would be perfect, but i think that the Eaton rears only went as high as 4.10 factory. There was an aftermarket 3.90 ratio available a while back though...

Monty · 07-27-2011, 09:02 PM

alrighty, i'll go pull the cover right now and see...

Monty · 07-27-2011, 09:21 PM

41 ring gear teeth. is that enough info? i just pulled the cover and couldn't see the pinion teeth.

dougo · 07-28-2011, 07:53 PM

welcome to the site!

pope · 07-28-2011, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty

41 ring gear teeth. is that enough info? i just pulled the cover and couldn't see the pinion teeth.

Sorry I couldn't say,without pinion count since 11 pinion teeth would give it 3.73 gears and 10 would give you 4.10. Thanks for checking into it!

Monty · 07-28-2011, 09:04 PM

i just pulled the guts out of it and counted 10 teeth on the pinion. should be what you are looking for.

if you are going to change the pinion seal, i can run the third member through the Proceeco (parts washer) at work and get it cleaned up. it is a alkiline solution under high pressure and 185*

pope · 07-29-2011, 06:31 PM

That would be great. I Would end up changing the seal before putting it in for sure. I really appreciate ya doing all that. I do feel that you should get some payment for all of this, or at least a case of beer!

Monty · 07-29-2011, 06:56 PM

nope. don't want nothin' for it. i was gonna have to scrap it but i'd much rather give stuff to someone that can put it to use.

and free will keep us out of trouble on the board here.

i'll run it through the Proceeco tomorrow and bag it up when it's dry. just lemme know when you get back and well get it to you

it looks to be in pretty decent shape inside.

pope · 07-29-2011, 07:12 PM

Great! and thanks again.

pope · 02-05-2012, 03:25 PM

Any progress ?

06-06-2011, 11:01 PM	#1
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 hi. i've been lurking here for a while and finally got the inspiration to tackle my suburban. it's a '72 2x4 with a few dings, but it came from Nevada and has almost no rust. i few years ago, i stuffed a 427 truck engine into it but never got the final few parts (carb and truck distributer) for it. well, it's time to get back to work on it. i read a couple of threads about the 4x4 conversion and have a friend with 1 ton runnin' gear. think i'll go down that road. thinkin' i'm gonna need some help here and there. Monty Last edited by Monty; 06-06-2011 at 11:03 PM. Reason: spelling

06-07-2011, 09:57 PM	#2
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Hey from OKC! __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

06-08-2011, 01:06 PM	#3
1ATony Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Pepperell,Mass Posts: 724	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Welcome to the site Monty

06-08-2011, 05:47 PM	#4
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 thanks, guys! lots of info here to sop up. it's gonna cost me some $$$, i can tell right now.

06-13-2011, 07:10 PM	#5
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Good luck on your build! You'll have to post some pictures of your burb as you go through the processes. __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

06-13-2011, 07:43 PM	#6
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 yea, i have a bud here that has a Dana 60 front end and 14 bolt rear i'm trying to get. should be straightforeward once i get the parts. i've been running 67-72 chevys since my first truck ('72 GMC 1/2 T). i always wanted to do a build like this but never had the space or $$$. now my only logistics problem is when i put the 4x4 under it, it'll be too big to fit my garage... Monty Last edited by Monty; 06-13-2011 at 07:48 PM.

06-13-2011, 09:02 PM	#7
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 The S.V. eh? I plan on moving back to Wilsall when I am done here. __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

06-13-2011, 09:43 PM	#8
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 yea, the upper Shields. sorry about the edit on that post, but i thought i was getting away from the topic (like i have a tendency of doin'). the downside of that area is the vehicle/deer collisions take a heavy toll on older trucks.

07-25-2011, 08:35 PM	#9
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 How is your truck coming along? any progress? __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

07-25-2011, 09:06 PM	#10
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Hi, Pope. very good to hear from you. hope things are well. the truck is comming along ok. got the 2wd front crossmember/axles stripped out and the Dana 60 installed on 52" springs. the rear end is in progress. the Eaton/trailing arms are gone and the 14 bolt is sitting there, but not bolted in yet. i'm using 64" springs in the rear and while i have the rear spring mounts whipped (via a DIY4X shackle flip kit), i'm looking for a suitable front spring mount for the rear springs. i may have to fab something. today, i got the auto trans steering column replaced with one from a manual trans and put the pedal assy. with clutch in.

07-26-2011, 08:12 PM	#11
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Everything is fine here. Counting down the weeks till we are outa here, really getting anxious! What gear ratio did your eaton have? __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

07-26-2011, 09:22 AM	#12
luifer76 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California CA Posts: 1,088	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Welcome to the site..... __________________ nOtHiNg LiKe ThE gOoD oLe ChEvYs....

07-26-2011, 08:24 PM	#13
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 glad your tour is getting short. i dunno about the ratio. i'll look at it if you want. i never drove the sub. i bought it less engine for a project. it was behind a 350/350.

07-26-2011, 08:33 PM	#14
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Sure, if you think about it when you are out that would be great. I am still running an eaton, but it has 4.57 gears, and would like to buy a set of 4.10 gears to help get my rpm down a little. __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

07-27-2011, 06:59 PM	#15
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 ok, i think i have the 3.73 gear set in this one. the option plate in the glove box doesn't list a special order ratio. is there a code stamped somewhere? if not, i'll pull the pumpkin and check for ya. whatever it is, it's yours if you want it.



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07-27-2011, 08:32 PM	#16
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Cool! thanks for checking! If it is an Eaton H050 or H072 I have never seen a tag on one my self but there may be one attached to a third member bolt or one of the rear cover bolts. 3.73 gears would be perfect, but i think that the Eaton rears only went as high as 4.10 factory. There was an aftermarket 3.90 ratio available a while back though...

07-27-2011, 09:02 PM	#17
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 alrighty, i'll go pull the cover right now and see...

07-27-2011, 09:21 PM	#18
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 41 ring gear teeth. is that enough info? i just pulled the cover and couldn't see the pinion teeth.

07-28-2011, 07:53 PM	#19
dougo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 543	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 welcome to the site! __________________ Doug '72 GMC K2500 Suburban 4x4

07-28-2011, 09:04 PM	#21
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 i just pulled the guts out of it and counted 10 teeth on the pinion. should be what you are looking for. if you are going to change the pinion seal, i can run the third member through the Proceeco (parts washer) at work and get it cleaned up. it is a alkiline solution under high pressure and 185*

07-29-2011, 06:31 PM	#22
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 That would be great. I Would end up changing the seal before putting it in for sure. I really appreciate ya doing all that. I do feel that you should get some payment for all of this, or at least a case of beer! __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

07-29-2011, 06:56 PM	#23
Monty Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 78	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 nope. don't want nothin' for it. i was gonna have to scrap it but i'd much rather give stuff to someone that can put it to use. and free will keep us out of trouble on the board here. i'll run it through the Proceeco tomorrow and bag it up when it's dry. just lemme know when you get back and well get it to you it looks to be in pretty decent shape inside.

07-29-2011, 07:12 PM	#24
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Great! and thanks again. __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

02-05-2012, 03:25 PM	#25
pope Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Mt Posts: 130	Re: Newb with '72 Sub 3/4T 2x4 Any progress ? __________________ Where the hell did my coffee cup go?!!

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