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**LockDoc** · 06-07-2011, 09:29 PM

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or have I just led a sheltered life? This is a GMC cluster ('72 I think) and it has adapters to use the old style bulbs in it, but only in some of the locations.

LockDoc

JORGIE95961 · 06-07-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lockdoc

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or have i just led a sheltered life? This is a gmc cluster ('72 i think) and it has adapters to use the old style bulbs in it, but only in some of the locations.

Lockdoc

they all got'em

**LockDoc** · 06-07-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JORGIE95961

they all got'em

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that. I have 9 or 10 instrument panels and at least 3 of them are GMC's. I just picked this one up and it is the only one I have that has the taller bulb holders with the old style bulbs in it....

LockDoc

ChevLoRay · 06-07-2011, 10:37 PM

I see what you're sayin'. Never noticed it before, but since my dash is out, I'll have to look and see what I can see.

ls1nova71 · 06-07-2011, 11:41 PM

They definitley do not all have them, but I have seen them before. Not sure why they're like that though.

VA72C10 · 06-08-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71

They definitley do not all have them, but I have seen them before. Not sure why they're like that though.

I agree...most have the shorter style, but I've had some with a few taller and some with all taller holders in them (but only a couple out of over 50 dashes)

wwotr · 06-08-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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or have I just led a sheltered life? This is a GMC cluster ('72 I think) and it has adapters to use the old style bulbs in it, but only in some of the locations.

LockDoc

Could that be a #168 Bulb/Holder as compared to a #194 Buld/Holder?
I know the #158's are supposed to be Brighter, but I went to LEDS on my Gauge Cluster:

YouTube - ‪GREEN LED INSTRUMENT...

*Fitz* · 06-08-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wwotr

Could that be a #168 Bulb/Holder as compared to a #194 Buld/Holder?
I know the #158's are supposed to be Brighter, but I went to LEDS on my Gauge Cluster:
YouTube - ‪GREEN LED INSTRUMENT CLUSTER LIGHTS‬&rlm;

That green glowing dash looks like something out of the Tommyknockers......

68panelman · 06-08-2011, 06:57 PM

My 70' k-10 had those same exact tall socket/bulb style, It was also the orig cluster. I have also seen that style in a 69' c/50 that i snatch the gauge cluster for the tach.

68panelman · 06-08-2011, 07:05 PM

Just ran outside to the garage, I knew i still had them!

sameyrasmea72 · 06-08-2011, 07:45 PM

You sure don't see them very often, but I have seen a few clusters with them.

wwotr · 06-08-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz

That green glowing dash looks like something out of the Tommyknockers......

Yes but eventually the Exterior will be painted Green, so I was using some Forward thinking when I switched all my incandecent Bulbs, over to LED's.
I ran some Green Colored Glass #194's in my 67 C-10 back in 2005, and there wasn't even a comparison,as far as Brightness!

**special-K** · 06-08-2011, 06:19 AM

Not sure of the rhyme or reason on when GM used what where. It's one of those mysteries in life. I've never seen the topic discussed here before.

Beuford · 06-08-2011, 06:24 AM

A #168 and a #194 will plug into the same socket. The #168's are 2 candle power brighter.

mrein3 · 06-08-2011, 07:53 AM

My daily driver for years was a 1994 Ford Escort. When I had to replace the heater core I had to remove everything between the seats and the inside of the firewall to get to the heater core. While I had the dash cluster in my hands I figured it was a wonderful time to test all the cluster bulbs and replace any if necessary. I was surprised to find they were all 194s which I "stock" in my shop because my truck and my Chevelles use alot of those suckers. The holder for the bulb was very similar to what my truck has.

Really long story short, I'm wondering if a previous owner found a bulb holder from a different/older/newer/other make that fit the slot and held the bulb. I never tested one of my 94 Escort holders in a truck cluster or vice versa. It is a simple "circuit". If the bulb holder stays in place and completes that 12V circuit, it is going to light up on command. I'm guessing there are many other years/makes/models that have similar 194 bulb holders that will fit that hole.

I bet in 2008 when I finally retired that car with close to 300,000 miles there weren't too may other 1994 Escorts with working "SHIFT" lights in the dash.

**RenoKeene** · 06-08-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Beuford

A #168 and a #194 will plug into the same socket. The #168's are 2 candle power brighter.

Are the #168's the tall ones or the short ones?

**LockDoc** · 06-08-2011, 08:52 AM

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As stated in my first and second post these taller bulb holders take the OLD STYLE bulb. I get the impression that some didn't catch that. I went out and snapped another pic...

LockDoc

mrein3 · 06-08-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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As stated in my first and second post these taller bulb holders take the OLD STYLE bulb. I get the impression that some didn't catch that. I went out and snapped another pic...

LockDoc

I'm sticking with my guess. A previous owner found a different make/model/year that had bulb holders that fit. In all the clusters I've handeled over the years none had bulb holders like that.

JORGIE95961 · 06-08-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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As stated in my first and second post these taller bulb holders take the OLD STYLE bulb. I get the impression that some didn't catch that. I went out and snapped another pic...

LockDoc

GOTCHA NOW.. UM i WAS JUST JOSHIN!! LOL OK I MISSED THAT PART

VA72C10 · 06-08-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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As stated in my first and second post these taller bulb holders take the OLD STYLE bulb. I get the impression that some didn't catch that. I went out and snapped another pic...

LockDoc

mine of course had those bulbs...easily could have been someone having extras and replacing with these when their bulbs burnt out....

Sammy · 06-08-2011, 01:35 PM

new one on me too.

Longhorn Man · 06-08-2011, 10:31 PM

per the manuals, 194 for the back light, 168 for the directionals.
My second truck (well worn and abused 69 GMC) had a couple of those in it... I was told that sometimes shops/dealers would install what they have on hand to make them work.

06-07-2011, 10:37 PM	#4
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Has anyone seen these before I see what you're sayin'. Never noticed it before, but since my dash is out, I'll have to look and see what I can see. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

06-07-2011, 11:41 PM	#5
ls1nova71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Independence Mo Posts: 4,118	Re: Has anyone seen these before They definitley do not all have them, but I have seen them before. Not sure why they're like that though.

06-08-2011, 06:57 PM	#9
68panelman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Delaware and Long Island, New York Posts: 3,455	Re: Has anyone seen these before My 70' k-10 had those same exact tall socket/bulb style, It was also the orig cluster. I have also seen that style in a 69' c/50 that i snatch the gauge cluster for the tach.

06-08-2011, 07:05 PM	#10
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06-08-2011, 07:45 PM	#11
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06-07-2011, 09:29 PM	#1
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,635	Has anyone seen these before - or have I just led a sheltered life? This is a GMC cluster ('72 I think) and it has adapters to use the old style bulbs in it, but only in some of the locations. LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

06-08-2011, 06:19 AM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: Has anyone seen these before Not sure of the rhyme or reason on when GM used what where. It's one of those mysteries in life. I've never seen the topic discussed here before. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-08-2011, 06:24 AM	#14
Beuford Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Townville,Pa Posts: 284	Re: Has anyone seen these before A #168 and a #194 will plug into the same socket. The #168's are 2 candle power brighter.

06-08-2011, 07:53 AM	#15
mrein3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Center City, MN, USA Posts: 3,253	Re: Has anyone seen these before My daily driver for years was a 1994 Ford Escort. When I had to replace the heater core I had to remove everything between the seats and the inside of the firewall to get to the heater core. While I had the dash cluster in my hands I figured it was a wonderful time to test all the cluster bulbs and replace any if necessary. I was surprised to find they were all 194s which I "stock" in my shop because my truck and my Chevelles use alot of those suckers. The holder for the bulb was very similar to what my truck has. Really long story short, I'm wondering if a previous owner found a bulb holder from a different/older/newer/other make that fit the slot and held the bulb. I never tested one of my 94 Escort holders in a truck cluster or vice versa. It is a simple "circuit". If the bulb holder stays in place and completes that 12V circuit, it is going to light up on command. I'm guessing there are many other years/makes/models that have similar 194 bulb holders that will fit that hole. I bet in 2008 when I finally retired that car with close to 300,000 miles there weren't too may other 1994 Escorts with working "SHIFT" lights in the dash. __________________ '70 cab, '71 chassis, 383, TH350, NP205. '71 Malibu convertible '72 Malibu hard top Center City, MN

06-08-2011, 08:52 AM	#17
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,635	Re: Has anyone seen these before - As stated in my first and second post these taller bulb holders take the OLD STYLE bulb. I get the impression that some didn't catch that. I went out and snapped another pic... LockDoc Attached Images __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 06-08-2011 at 08:54 AM.

06-08-2011, 01:35 PM	#21
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Has anyone seen these before new one on me too. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

06-08-2011, 10:31 PM	#22
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Has anyone seen these before per the manuals, 194 for the back light, 168 for the directionals. My second truck (well worn and abused 69 GMC) had a couple of those in it... I was told that sometimes shops/dealers would install what they have on hand to make them work.



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