Cheyenne Super on Ebay - Truthful?

[LakeMtn]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...fCarsQ5fTrucks

Seen this on E Bay and the seller makes the claim that:
1.) Not all options are listed on the "options list" on the glovebox
2.) That 4x4's didn't come with big blocks.

What do you think? Is he right?

At any rate its sure a nice truck

[BlackTopMotors]

Someone here will likely know. He seems to be pretty upfront though. A great looking truck despite. Thanks for sharing!
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[red71cheyenne]

SPID says its a cheyenne super, but that too could be a remake. Looks like a real well done truck though. I'd be happy to have that in my driveway, but way out of my price range.

[YBNORML]

A very nice truck!
In this day and age a truck like this almost needs more documentation in order to certify that it actually is what they say it is. With a little bit of knowledge and an aftermarket catalogue anything can be faked. It sucks, I know but that's the way it is.
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[Bill72]

No big blocks in 4x4's in our year trucks, 67-72.
Although options on SPIDs are not always perfect, I've never seen an AM/FM listed as an AM or factory A/C not listed and in the truck.

This truck has had options added to it.
That just means someone did some nice upgrades that look correct.

If the seller claims that the truck is all original, that is wrong. Tilt column and steering wheel should be black. Tailgate has the 71 only disc sticker on it. etc. etc.

I love the truck and would be thrilled to own it. The additions don't bother me. Claiming that it is original does.

[rsavage]

Great looking truck. The owner is correct -4X4's never built with big blocks.

[leddzepp]

SPID looks original to me, I believe it is a Super from the factory. I find it strange 4 season air (A/C) is not listed on the SPID, however, that IS factory air on the truck. Big blocks were not available from the factory in 4 x 4's. Looks well done and rust free to me.

[Zoomin]

Air not on the SPID? Hmmm

I bet the cab was replaced, but the glove box door stayed. Nothing wrong with that A/C is nice to have.
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[Bill72]

Originally Posted by Zoomin

Air not on the SPID? Hmmm

I bet the cab was replaced, but the glove box door stayed. Nothing wrong with that A/C is nice to have.
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I agree with the cab swap. The left side of dash also has the hole for the knob for switching the fuel gauge over to the factory aux tank. Which isn't on SPID or truck.

[Tuff Gong]

That is one nice truck. I wish I had the money to make it mine.

[ubtripn]

Was he referring to this board as the truck gods?

[VA72C10]

very nice truck and nicely restored....other than....is it my computer or are the visors really miscolored?

[screaminchevypickup]

Originally Posted by VA72C10

very nice truck and nicely restored....other than....is it my computer or are the visors really miscolored?

I think its just the plastic covers that the factory puts on that are miscolored?

[special-K]

Looks like the real deal,and a nice one to me. When it was restored some things were done that weren't original to the truck,but only to enhance it. The steering column should be black,the disc brake sticker on the tailgate is a '71 item,and the color is a bit too silver from original. I see the color difference a lot. I believe some paint company got the formula a bit wrong. I really like the way it was optioned being a Cheyenne Super with posi and 4spd. Were that many SWB K/10s really made in '72? I need to copy those production figures down. I know the numbers increased through this body style and '72 took a big jump,but didn't think it was that much.

[71swb4x4]

I too think it's a real cheyenne super with some options tastefully added. Claiming they are original I don't agree with.
Maybe not a cab swap, may have just added AC to a non-AC truck.
If the VIN matched the frame, cab and glove box door the added on options wouldn't bother me one bit.

[tkeduk8r]

I would think board member "daburb" would know about this truck. This is down around his neck of the woods. I agree VERY nice truck but dont claim its original factory built truck if it is not... I dont think there is anything wrong with stating factory options correctly installed. I am planning on adding AC to my 70 short 4x4 too along with some other options....
--Mike

[special-K]

I don't see where the seller claims any factory options not shown on the SPID to be original to the truck or that this truck is as it left the factory,other than as a SWB K/10 Cheyenne super. The A/C is the original factory and that's all he is stating.

[Zoomin]

As of this writing, the bid is up to $24,600 and still hasn't hit reserve. That's pretty good territory these days.

[RCbowtie69]

Very NICE!!!!! Wish had money burning a hole in my pocket,i don't,but i would love to have it :cool;

[1971short4X4]

that truck kicks ass. i would love to have it

[toms68cst]

Could AC Be dealer installed in 72? Seems to me some custom dealer accessorie brochures I have mention dealer-installed AC.

[71swb4x4]

Originally Posted by toms68cst

Could AC Be dealer installed in 72? Seems to me some custom dealer accessorie brochures I have mention dealer-installed AC.

In 72 the dealer did install AC but it was never dash mounted factory AC, it would have been under dash.
That being said anything is possible, the dealer could have gone to the extent of adding factory AC in 72 to a buyer willing to "pay the price" but I would have to imagine it would have been LOADS cheaper to just order a truck that way. The labor to retrofit factory AC would have been crazy compared to simply ordering the truck with it.

[Bill72]

His ad says stock options that are on the truck and lists items that were clearly added later. Many folks would consider stock to mean the way it came from the factory.

His explanation of SPIDS being incorrect and omitting options is also implying that the options were not added, just left off the SPID. Why is he making this argument unless he's claiming his listed options really were on the truck originally?

I find it hard to believe that:
1. tilt, sliding rear window, and A/C were all left off the SPID
2. that the factory installed an am/fm and listed it as an AM on SPID
3. That the factory installed a tilt column and wheel in body color instead of black
4. That an expert doesn't know that discs were standard on 72's
5. That an expert doesn't know the disc sticker was 71 only

He knows enough to be misleading.
As far as requests for additional pictures, specifically of the VIN plate, here is his response.


I could, if I wanted to hook up and take it out of the trailer and putts around with the camera and computer and put it all away. Considering the bids are a long way from what it takes to buy it, so whats the point? I already waisted enough time with petty questioning and verifications to those who aren`t serious enough to come see and test drive it when it isn`t going to sell here. When I take it to live auction, everyone can see for themselves what they want in person. I had a standing offer much higher than it is here, before I entered it on ebay, from someone who has known the truck for 3 years, so why should I bother with efforts in futility? Have you even bid on it yet?


- camarosick


As I already stated, the truck looks great and I'd like to own it, I believe the truck is nice enough to sell on its own merits without trying to make people believe something that isn't so.

[LakeMtn]

I also find it hard to believe that these options weren't listed on the SPID. Esp the AC. Like others I would love to have this truck but if I'm shelling out nearly a years wages for a truck that he is massaging as having rolled this way off the factory floor, I'm gonna want the straight scoop. Why doesn't he just say for example that " I added some factory correct options that didn't come orginally with the truck" ie AC, rear slider, AM/FM radio, etc etc. He owes a potental buyer the facts. And also I don't like the attitude he displayed in his various rants.
In sum I'm getting an education here, because as a potental truck buyer and enthusiast I should do my homework too.

[Keith Seymore]

It is true that not all options appear on the SPID; for example, there are "merchandised" (ie orderable) and "non-merchandised" (ie, not ordable) options, usually dealing with emissions packages or multiple transmission options. Sometimes one or the other will appear on the SPID, but not all.

For example, if multiple automatic transmissions are available, the customer might choose "MXO", in effect saying "I want an auto" but then the engineering specifications would determine whether it's a TH400 (M40) or TH350. Same thing for a manual trans. The customer would choose MMO, but there were two column shifted three speed Saginaws, with differing first gear ratios. The engineering release would determine which was the proper trans for the application.

Similarly, while technically not an "option", the base or standard rear axle ratio is often not shown on the SPID (which is often the cause of consternation on this board).

But - big stuff like AC vs Non AC - that's always on there. It has to be, because it drives a different front of dash and a whole bunch of service parts (precisely the reason we have a SPID label).

K