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super68c10 · 06-23-2011, 11:11 PM

did they make a small window in 68??

**too much stuff** · 06-23-2011, 11:15 PM

I will start the arguement and say no. The c-40 to c-60 cabs did however.

Duncan and son · 06-23-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by too much stuff

I will start the arguement and say no. The c-40 to c-60 cabs did however.

Eric is right

Rooster's 67 · 06-24-2011, 01:28 AM

I belive Eric is right also, but it is rumored that there was left over small back window cabs used in 68.

I have also heard that the small back window was only available the first 6 months of production in 67, and was then discontinued in the 10-30 series.

....just stirring the pot.

67chevy1series · 06-24-2011, 01:36 AM

theres they yes and no's on this subject.. some claim that the first 68s used 67 cabs and there fore had small windows... but i respectfully disagree, and will claim this: the government said no to small windowes and wanted markers to be added.. and was starting to ad emission controls instead of the pvc valve like 67's (at least for CA), so if those rules applied then they couldnt have been able to sell such a vehicle correct? being a 67 owner i found out how hard it is to find front and rear fenders for67 swb fleetside trucks so there is alot of 67's getting mix matched and different body panels from various years...

*Shane* · 06-24-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 67chevy1series

... the government said no to small windowes ...

Really? Can you expand on this please?

I agree with the statement about the side markers being required but this is the first time I've heard of the small window being done away with because of legalities.

If that is the case, why were the larger trucks allowed to have small rear windows and the smaller trucks not?

67chevy1series · 06-24-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

Really? Can you expand on this please?

I agree with the statement about the side markers being required but this is the first time I've heard of the small window being done away with because of legalities.

If that is the case, why were the larger trucks allowed to have small rear windows and the smaller trucks not?

the bigger trucks dont have very good sight through the rear windows because of how they are tall chunky but most of all what beds might be put on them with whatever covers the window so having a small or big window still wouldnt help, smaller trucks are lower not very chunky and most of them had regular beds, so having big windows on light duty trucks is alot more pratical then having it on a medium or heavy duty trucks

67chevy1series · 06-24-2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RenoKeene

Good info, thanks.
It is hard to see out the back of these and I see why they changed it...but it is very cool looking!

theres alot of truck and stuff behind your cab that doesnt help with site correct? if it was higher or taller of a truck like the c40 to c60 with those huge side mirrors they put on it would be just about the same or better for sight correct?

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Originally Posted by Shane

Really? Can you expand on this please?

I agree with the statement about the side markers being required but this is the first time I've heard of the small window being done away with because of legalities.

If that is the case, why were the larger trucks allowed to have small rear windows and the smaller trucks not?

^^^^ i asked reno keene a question that would help anwser yours.

*Shane* · 06-24-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 67chevy1series

the bigger trucks dont have very good sight through the rear windows because of how they are tall chunky but most of all what beds might be put on them with whatever covers the window so having a small or big window still wouldnt help, smaller trucks are lower not very chunky and most of them had regular beds, so having big windows on light duty trucks is alot more pratical then having it on a medium or heavy duty trucks

I know how a small window works ... I wanted to know where you got the idea that small windows on 1/2 ton pick up trucks were outlawed by the "gubment" ...

**special-K** · 06-24-2011, 07:29 AM

'67 was the last year for optional rear window. The option became the standard in '68.

**RenoKeene** · 06-24-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

'67 was the last year for optional rear window. The option became the standard in '68.

Does this mean you could get a big back window in 67?
If so, would this be the rarest option...

**N2TRUX** · 06-24-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RenoKeene

Does this mean you could get a big back window in 67?
If so, would this be the rarest option...

Yes, it was optional, and no its not that rare.

**RenoKeene** · 06-24-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Yes, it was optional, and no its not that rare.

Good info, thanks.
It is hard to see out the back of these and I see why they changed it...but it is very cool looking!

**chewychevy67** · 06-24-2011, 10:13 AM

if they used left over cabs from 67 then there would be 68 cabs out there with a small ignition bezel and jacks mounted on the floor instead of the side. ive never seen a 68 with those.

VWBeamer · 06-24-2011, 04:01 PM

alot of new rules came into effect in 1968. I suspect that the small window trucks could not pass the rearview performance test that was to come into effect 1-1-68.

Standard No. 111 - Rearview Mirrors - Passenger Cars, Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, Buses, School Buses and Motorcycles
(Effective 1-1-68)
This standard specifies requirements for the performance and location of inside and outside rearview mirrors. Its purpose is to reduce the number of deaths and injuries that occur when the driver of a motor vehicle does not have a clear and reasonably unobstructed view to the rear.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/fmvss/index.html

This just speculation, but I don't know of any other make with small rear windows in 1968 either.

It's likely that the heavier trucks were not held to the same safety standards as light trucks, as is the case today.

67chevy1series · 06-24-2011, 04:27 PM

thank you vw.. i wne t with my common sense knowlegde about the small windows in 68 and well i didnt hit the nail on the head but i still had the right idea as you can see by VW's post

06-23-2011, 11:11 PM	#1
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06-24-2011, 01:28 AM	#4
Rooster's 67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: DFW Posts: 765	Re: 68 small window?? I belive Eric is right also, but it is rumored that there was left over small back window cabs used in 68. I have also heard that the small back window was only available the first 6 months of production in 67, and was then discontinued in the 10-30 series. ....just stirring the pot. __________________ The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

06-24-2011, 01:36 AM	#5
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: 68 small window?? theres they yes and no's on this subject.. some claim that the first 68s used 67 cabs and there fore had small windows... but i respectfully disagree, and will claim this: the government said no to small windowes and wanted markers to be added.. and was starting to ad emission controls instead of the pvc valve like 67's (at least for CA), so if those rules applied then they couldnt have been able to sell such a vehicle correct? being a 67 owner i found out how hard it is to find front and rear fenders for67 swb fleetside trucks so there is alot of 67's getting mix matched and different body panels from various years...

06-24-2011, 07:29 AM	#10
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 68 small window?? '67 was the last year for optional rear window. The option became the standard in '68. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-24-2011, 10:13 AM	#14
chewychevy67 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Here Posts: 5,592	Re: 68 small window?? if they used left over cabs from 67 then there would be 68 cabs out there with a small ignition bezel and jacks mounted on the floor instead of the side. ive never seen a 68 with those.

06-24-2011, 04:01 PM	#15
VWBeamer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: GA Posts: 281	Re: 68 small window?? alot of new rules came into effect in 1968. I suspect that the small window trucks could not pass the rearview performance test that was to come into effect 1-1-68. Standard No. 111 - Rearview Mirrors - Passenger Cars, Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, Buses, School Buses and Motorcycles (Effective 1-1-68) This standard specifies requirements for the performance and location of inside and outside rearview mirrors. Its purpose is to reduce the number of deaths and injuries that occur when the driver of a motor vehicle does not have a clear and reasonably unobstructed view to the rear. http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/fmvss/index.html This just speculation, but I don't know of any other make with small rear windows in 1968 either. It's likely that the heavier trucks were not held to the same safety standards as light trucks, as is the case today. Last edited by VWBeamer; 06-24-2011 at 04:03 PM.

06-24-2011, 04:27 PM	#16
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: 68 small window?? thank you vw.. i wne t with my common sense knowlegde about the small windows in 68 and well i didnt hit the nail on the head but i still had the right idea as you can see by VW's post



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