Is this looking like a 4/6? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

David67 · 06-29-2011, 11:40 PM

The bed has been set on there since and it appears that the back is lower. I know that more weight will be on the front but do yall think it'll bring it down to what an ECE 4/6 drop should be? I've always thought they were a bit lower.

David67 · 06-29-2011, 11:42 PM

The bed has been set on there since and it appears that the back is lower and where it should be. I know that more weight will be on the front but do yall think it'll bring it down to what an ECE 4/6 drop should be? I've always thought they were a bit lower.

David67 · 06-29-2011, 11:43 PM

For some reason it posted a second time....check the one with the pics

David67 · 06-29-2011, 11:44 PM

gah ignore that.....my computer's weird

oldblue1968chevy · 06-29-2011, 11:50 PM

front looks high but you've gotta lota parts missing still....

67_C-30 · 06-30-2011, 12:28 AM

If the bed was on it, it would be lower in the rear already, and the engine is going to drop it down at least a couple inches, so its probably right. ECE is great stuff, so it should be as low as any other similiarly equipped truck with ECE stuff.

David67 · 06-30-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 67_C-30

If the bed was on it, it would be lower in the rear already, and the engine is going to drop it down at least a couple inches, so its probably right. ECE is great stuff, so it should be as low as any other similiarly equipped truck with ECE stuff.

The bed's on it now and the rear sits where it's supposed to. The engine/trans are already in........... Yea I've heard a lot of great things about them and there's still a lot of parts to go on. Just thought it'd be lower by this point!

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Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

front looks high but you've gotta lota parts missing still....

Yep we'll see

David67 · 06-30-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

front looks high but you've gotta lota parts missing still....

Yea thats what I'm thinking...

68Stepbed · 06-30-2011, 08:27 AM

The great thing about ECE is if the front doesn't sit right when you get it all together, they may be willing to swap out springs as long as there's no miles on them. They offered to that on my old 4" drop springs, but I had already had them on the truck and driving around on them for about 8 months.

19seventeeCustom · 06-30-2011, 10:40 AM

It looks about right, what size tires are in the front?

It maybe about a 1/2" too tall in the front, but like was already mentioned you still have some weight to add to the front of the truck, so it should be right on after that.

50mercfan · 06-30-2011, 10:50 AM

are the front springs alined up in the spring pockets. happed on my 57 chevy and i had to take one back out.

David67 · 06-30-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 68Stepbed

The great thing about ECE is if the front doesn't sit right when you get it all together, they may be willing to swap out springs as long as there's no miles on them. They offered to that on my old 4" drop springs, but I had already had them on the truck and driving around on them for about 8 months.

Yea I'm just hoping they didn't send me a 2/6

I'm not sure if they would because I've painted them. Did yours settle in after that long? Also, when yours was at this stage, did it sit about like this? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by 19seventeeCustom

It looks about right, what size tires are in the front?

It maybe about a 1/2" too tall in the front, but like was already mentioned you still have some weight to add to the front of the truck, so it should be right on after that.

Yea I hope so. It's a 255/55/17 on the front. Thanks

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Originally Posted by 50mercfan

are the front springs alined up in the spring pockets. happed on my 57 chevy and i had to take one back out.

Yep I'll check again but I made sure when it was going together.

68Stepbed · 07-01-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by David67

Did yours settle in after that long? Also, when yours was at this stage, did it sit about like this?

No, because I already had my 1" springs in for a few years, then just added the drop spindles during the resto.

AusTx68 · 06-30-2011, 04:52 PM

When I first installed my ECE 4/6 kit it sat high too. Then I realized when I initially purchased the kit I was running a big block. I switched to a 383 after I built up the frame and never thought about the difference. I called ECE and switched from BBC to SBC front springs with a 2" drop for an overall 4.5/6 drop. I'm very happy with the results.

David67 · 06-30-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AusTx68

When I first installed my ECE 4/6 kit it sat high too. Then I realized when I initially purchased the kit I was running a big block. I switched to a 383 after I built up the frame and never thought about the difference. I called ECE and switched from BBC to SBC front springs with a 2" drop for an overall 4.5/6 drop. I'm very happy with the results.

Whenever I was first got them it I was running a 292...and now have a 350. I know that's a heavier engine so maybe they sent BBC springs? And you got the 2" instead of 1.5?

AusTx68 · 06-30-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David67

Whenever I was first got them it I was running a 292...and now have a 350. I know that's a heavier engine so maybe they sent BBC springs? And you got the 2" instead of 1.5?

Right! When I picked up the SBC springs I found out they offered a 2" drop spring and went with it. The extra .5 isn't much but looks good.

David67 · 06-30-2011, 05:15 PM

Sweet yea I just got off the phone with ECE. They said they would've sent the same springs as a SBC for the 292. I'm going to have to just wait till all the weight's on to see what it looks like and maybe swap over to the 2 inch! Thanks for the help.

72BlckButy · 07-01-2011, 09:17 PM

For comparison, here's my '69 with a 4.5/6" drop w/ 250 I-6 and 2 spd powerglide (both original). I would set the engine and see how it looks at that point; no need to remove springs if you don't have too.

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The following measurements were made before and after the 4.5/6" drop, with the ralleys and 235 75R15's. Additional information can be found in my build thread in my signature (click Blank Slate below).

Before the drop:
Driver's Side Front: 33 1/2"
Driver's Side Rear: 33"
Passenger Side Front: 33 1/4"
Passenger Side Rear: 32 7/8"

After the drop:
Driver's Side Front: 28"
Driver's Side Rear: 29"
Passenger Side Front: 28 1/4"
Passenger Side Rear: 28 3/4"

After the new wheels (4/3/10):
Driver's Side Front: 28 7/16""
Driver's Side Rear: 29 5/16"
Passenger Side Front: 28 1/2"
Passenger Side Rear: 29 5/16"

NOTE: It is always important to measure before and after the spring install to ensure you receive the correct springs from the supplier.

David67 · 07-01-2011, 09:38 PM

Wow thanks Nate! Well the pictures you see are with the engine already in. I should've measured before but even when I removed the front coils, I found out that they were both broken! I'm just going to wait until all of the weight's in and then see how it looks and see if I need to go anywhere from there. I might also have to address an issue with my front wheels. At the time I didn't realize that the spindles would push the front wheels out so the front track width is 3 inches wider overall than the rear. Nothing pokes outside of the fenders but the front is kinda close.
Thanks!

David67 · 07-01-2011, 09:39 PM

That's one of my favorite trucks on the board!

72BlckButy · 07-02-2011, 01:25 PM

Thanks David!

Just wanted to say that the note I mentioned above about measuring was for anyone that is reading this thread and planning on lowering their truck.

Just out my build thread for what we did (15x7 ralleys) to accomodate the 3" spread on the front wheels. The truck is looking great, keep at it.

FRENCHBLUE72 · 07-02-2011, 04:00 PM

Looks pretty good to me and im sure it will settle with some drive time and a more complete truck..

David67 · 07-04-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72

Looks pretty good to me and im sure it will settle with some drive time and a more complete truck..

Thanks I sure hope so!

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Thanks David!

Just wanted to say that the note I mentioned above about measuring was for anyone that is reading this thread and planning on lowering their truck.

Just check out my build thread for what we did (15x7 ralleys) to accomodate the 3" spread on the front wheels. The truck is looking great, keep at it.

Just checked it out. So you had to go with different wheels to "fix" it? I'd hate to sell the ones that are on there but I think I'll have to and get some with different b.s. And I also saw that you trimmed down the lower A-arm. Is this necessary?

72BlckButy · 07-05-2011, 02:53 PM

Not necessary, just eliminated any rubbing on the ralleys when they were on there. I didn't have to upgrade to the 20's but that was the initial intent anyway. The 15x7's just helped suck the front wheels back in with the 8's on the back.

06-29-2011, 11:40 PM	#1
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Is this looking like a 4/6? The bed has been set on there since and it appears that the back is lower. I know that more weight will be on the front but do yall think it'll bring it down to what an ECE 4/6 drop should be? I've always thought they were a bit lower. Attached Images __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

06-29-2011, 11:42 PM	#2
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Is this looking like a 4/6? The bed has been set on there since and it appears that the back is lower and where it should be. I know that more weight will be on the front but do yall think it'll bring it down to what an ECE 4/6 drop should be? I've always thought they were a bit lower. __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

06-29-2011, 11:43 PM	#3
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? For some reason it posted a second time....check the one with the pics __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

06-29-2011, 11:44 PM	#4
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? gah ignore that.....my computer's weird __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

06-29-2011, 11:50 PM	#5
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? front looks high but you've gotta lota parts missing still.... __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-30-2011, 12:28 AM	#6
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? If the bed was on it, it would be lower in the rear already, and the engine is going to drop it down at least a couple inches, so its probably right. ECE is great stuff, so it should be as low as any other similiarly equipped truck with ECE stuff. __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club!

06-30-2011, 08:27 AM	#9
68Stepbed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 10-Uh-See Posts: 5,609	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? The great thing about ECE is if the front doesn't sit right when you get it all together, they may be willing to swap out springs as long as there's no miles on them. They offered to that on my old 4" drop springs, but I had already had them on the truck and driving around on them for about 8 months. __________________ Matt 68 C10 stepside, LS1/700R4, TCI Engineering suspension system Last edited by 68Stepbed; 06-30-2011 at 08:27 AM.

06-30-2011, 10:40 AM	#10
19seventeeCustom Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Downtown Posts: 573	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? It looks about right, what size tires are in the front? It maybe about a 1/2" too tall in the front, but like was already mentioned you still have some weight to add to the front of the truck, so it should be right on after that.

06-30-2011, 10:50 AM	#11
50mercfan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: henderson ky Posts: 196	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? are the front springs alined up in the spring pockets. happed on my 57 chevy and i had to take one back out.

06-30-2011, 04:52 PM	#14
AusTx68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,278	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? When I first installed my ECE 4/6 kit it sat high too. Then I realized when I initially purchased the kit I was running a big block. I switched to a 383 after I built up the frame and never thought about the difference. I called ECE and switched from BBC to SBC front springs with a 2" drop for an overall 4.5/6 drop. I'm very happy with the results. __________________ '68 C-10 SWB 383 Stroker (Sold 3/2/2013) '87 R2500 LWB 454 TBI converted to Carb Last edited by AusTx68; 06-30-2011 at 04:53 PM.

06-30-2011, 05:15 PM	#17
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? Sweet yea I just got off the phone with ECE. They said they would've sent the same springs as a SBC for the 292. I'm going to have to just wait till all the weight's on to see what it looks like and maybe swap over to the 2 inch! Thanks for the help. __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

07-01-2011, 09:17 PM	#18
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? For comparison, here's my '69 with a 4.5/6" drop w/ 250 I-6 and 2 spd powerglide (both original). I would set the engine and see how it looks at that point; no need to remove springs if you don't have too. The following measurements were made before and after the 4.5/6" drop, with the ralleys and 235 75R15's. Additional information can be found in my build thread in my signature (click Blank Slate below). Before the drop: Driver's Side Front: 33 1/2" Driver's Side Rear: 33" Passenger Side Front: 33 1/4" Passenger Side Rear: 32 7/8" After the drop: Driver's Side Front: 28" Driver's Side Rear: 29" Passenger Side Front: 28 1/4" Passenger Side Rear: 28 3/4" After the new wheels (4/3/10): Driver's Side Front: 28 7/16"" Driver's Side Rear: 29 5/16" Passenger Side Front: 28 1/2" Passenger Side Rear: 29 5/16" NOTE: It is always important to measure before and after the spring install to ensure you receive the correct springs from the supplier. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

07-01-2011, 09:38 PM	#19
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? Wow thanks Nate! Well the pictures you see are with the engine already in. I should've measured before but even when I removed the front coils, I found out that they were both broken! I'm just going to wait until all of the weight's in and then see how it looks and see if I need to go anywhere from there. I might also have to address an issue with my front wheels. At the time I didn't realize that the spindles would push the front wheels out so the front track width is 3 inches wider overall than the rear. Nothing pokes outside of the fenders but the front is kinda close. Thanks! __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

07-01-2011, 09:39 PM	#20
David67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 886	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? That's one of my favorite trucks on the board! __________________ 1967 C10 Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015 IG: david_r67

07-02-2011, 01:25 PM	#21
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? Thanks David! Just wanted to say that the note I mentioned above about measuring was for anyone that is reading this thread and planning on lowering their truck. Just out my build thread for what we did (15x7 ralleys) to accomodate the 3" spread on the front wheels. The truck is looking great, keep at it. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)



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07-02-2011, 04:00 PM	#22
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07-05-2011, 02:53 PM	#24
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Is this looking like a 4/6? Not necessary, just eliminated any rubbing on the ralleys when they were on there. I didn't have to upgrade to the 20's but that was the initial intent anyway. The 15x7's just helped suck the front wheels back in with the 8's on the back. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

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