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CHEVY_BOI93 · 07-03-2011, 02:41 PM

so i am going to buy a 1970 chevy c10 swb. And i noticed it doesnt have any vin ID tags on it. guy who is selling it says the title goes with the truck. but im not buying it. I was just wondering if anybody could tell me where the hidden vin is on the frame or cab on the 67-72 c10 trucks,

All input is welcome

Zoomin · 07-03-2011, 11:20 PM

VIN tag is in the driver side door pillar. The glove box door also has a sticker on the inside that has the VIN and the options. The will also be stamped on the top in the driver side frame rail in the engine compartment.

Good luck!

**LockDoc** · 07-03-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoomin

VIN tag is in the driver side door pillar. The glove box door also has a sticker on the inside that has the VIN and the options. The will also be stamped on the top in the driver side frame rail in the engine compartment.

Good luck!

I'll add that there is also one on top of the driver side frame rail under the cab...

LockDoc

**70cst** · 12-23-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

I'll add that there is also one on top of the driver side frame rail under the cab...

LockDoc

I think this is what LockDoc was referring to - this is on my 70 C10

Longhorn Man · 07-03-2011, 11:22 PM

the one on the metal plate on the cab side of the drivers door jamb under the striker is the ONLY one that LEGALLY identifies the truck.
Without that, you have an illegal truck

centuryhouse · 07-16-2015, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

the one on the metal plate on the cab side of the drivers door jamb under the striker is the ONLY one that LEGALLY identifies the truck.
Without that, you have an illegal truck

I don't seem to have any such plate on my truck. The only one I've found is on the sticker in the glove box.

**Jurassic-1** · 07-16-2015, 11:54 AM

I bought an original black plate truck with ALL vin # intact from crayon marks, Glove Box, Plate on the cab ,Tag in glove box and it had the blue sticker on the driver door that was worn but the last 3 digits were there. Arizona DMV wanted me to leave the truck for a closer look. I took it to another DMV and the guy there said oh this is not complete. I showed him all the other numbers and then he was satisfied. I called DMV and asked how many numbers are required and they told me 1-2 but it is up to the inspector. I get that they want to stop stolen vehicles but they should also look at the overall picture. It was complete and an original truck with more documentation than most. Even the black plates were those issued in 1970. I explained that having had a shop we replaced many drivers doors due to damage and the stickers were not available to replace then. If I have any vehicles I have had to buy bonded insurance on it and DMV issues a bonded title. It can be a pain but at least you can get registration legally going this rout. I know each state may differ.

lyrikz · 07-16-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jurassic-1

I bought an original black plate truck with ALL vin # intact from crayon marks, Glove Box, Plate on the cab ,Tag in glove box and it had the blue sticker on the driver door that was worn but the last 3 digits were there. Arizona DMV wanted me to leave the truck for a closer look. I took it to another DMV and the guy there said oh this is not complete. I showed him all the other numbers and then he was satisfied. I called DMV and asked how many numbers are required and they told me 1-2 but it is up to the inspector. I get that they want to stop stolen vehicles but they should also look at the overall picture. It was complete and an original truck with more documentation than most. Even the black plates were those issued in 1970. I explained that having had a shop we replaced many drivers doors due to damage and the stickers were not available to replace then. If I have any vehicles I have had to buy bonded insurance on it and DMV issues a bonded title. It can be a pain but at least you can get registration legally going this rout. I know each state may differ.

Oregon dmv literally took a sticker and put it next to my vin plate. Its a custom sticker but thats all they did. So i have a vin plate that reads one number and i have a vin sticker from dmv, spid, and frame numbers with the other vin. Washington didnt care either. They looked up the original vin and it has never been issued.

Jenkins Classics · 07-04-2011, 12:01 AM

Partial vin on the drivers side upper frame rail,right at the gearbox area.You might have to do some scraping to see but if he has a title these numbers on the drivers frame rail will match the last 8 or 9 numbers on the vin number stated on the title.If you are looking for a opinion I would not mess with a vehicle with a vin tag,it will give you problems down the road.

Jenkins Classics · 07-04-2011, 12:05 AM

Excuse me I ment I would not mess with one without a vin tag

CHEVY_BOI93 · 07-04-2011, 01:09 PM

i appreciate all the help guys. but i didnt find anything. i found some number under the cab on the frame rail but they dont match the vin. and i checked my dads 70 c10 and it also has numbers but they dont match either....maybe im not looking for it correctly. if someone could post a picture of where your truck has it or maybe seen it. i would really like that. i cant pass up a truck like that

Jenkins Classics · 07-04-2011, 01:19 PM

You mean that the numbers under the cab do not match the vin# on the title that he is producing,correct?

Jenkins Classics · 07-04-2011, 01:28 PM

If I could I would take pics. of my vin#locations on my frame today for you,but my frame is being sandblasted 42 miles from me at this point.Hate to see you get into something that might not be right.

bruceman1968 · 07-04-2011, 01:55 PM

Chevy, There is more than one set of numbers on your frame. If you found the numbers on the side of the frame they won't match anything. If you find the numbers on the top of the frame they will partially match the vin.

But I see a big red flag here. If the cab has NO vin plate then DON'T buy that truck. As said in post #3 it won't be legal. If you don't have a vin plate on the cab, then you don't have a truck (Except for parts) The vin plate is on the drivers side rear pillar under the striker.
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bruceman1968 · 07-04-2011, 02:16 PM

There are two places for a frame partial VIN number on the frame. One place is on top of the frame under the cab. This one is hard to see with the cab on.
The same number will also be on top of the frame in the engine compartment. It is much easier to find and see. Driver side top of frame across from the front of the engine block. Here is a pic of mine. My PS pump is what you see at the top of the pic.
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Longhorn Man · 07-04-2011, 02:16 PM

on a 70... there would only be one plate in that location... but without it, you have a parts truck

*Shane* · 07-04-2011, 02:52 PM

you also can't see the VIN stamp on the frame rail under the cab without removing the cab. it is on the top surface of the frame rail, not the side.

CHEVY_BOI93 · 07-05-2011, 12:24 AM

wow thanks bruceman1968!!! you were a very big help. i found them. turns out you couldnt see them cause it was painted over. it was scratched off and bam! the numbers match

and yeah i know if it doesnt have the cab plate its not legal. but the glove box and door have stickers. and ill live with that. i was just concerned with the chasiss i appreciate all the help guys.

*Shane* · 07-05-2011, 10:40 AM

in alabama, without the door tag you won't be able to get it registered which means no license plate, regardless of the frame markings ... just a thought

ChevLoRay · 07-05-2011, 12:21 PM

I have heard that having the frame numbers matching the title, is sufficient here in Arkansas. I already have the title to my truck, but am going to be using a '68 cab. Yeah, the numbers don't match my title, but my frame does. I'll be taking the tag off of my '69 cab, just for tickles and grins. I have a bill of sale for my replacement cab, but I'd rather have the numbers to match across the board.

I'm gonna get a pair of the rosette rivets and I know they are not cheap, but that's what I'll do.

SmokeShadows · 06-26-2013, 03:05 PM

I have a 68 gmc longbed and I'm having difficulty with finding the Vin stamped on the frame, when did they start stamping on the frame and did gmc's receive these markings also? And can anybody post a picture of approximately where the one under the cab should be.? Thanks :-) oh and if there's no stamp on the frame near the steering box will there be one under the cab?
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tlcrz1972 · 06-26-2013, 03:24 PM

Don't remove the vin plate off of any cab for any reason, if the cab came with the tag that is the identifier that is isn't stolen. In Texas I had to take a truck with a different cab to DMV theft division to have it verified and paper work done to denote this change in Austin. Now the truck is totally legal even though the cab vin plate DOESN't match the frame rail numbers. I just had to have proof of purchase VIA a sales receipt from the salvage yard for the cab. Plus the title for the frame, And proof of purchase of other parts that went into the truck.

Again DO NOT REMOVE THE VIN TAG OFF OF THE ORIGINAL CAB AND PUT ON THE REPLACEMENT CAB. Call your DMV and ask questions before you do the dumb mistake I did before I learned the correct way.

**chewychevy67** · 06-26-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeShadows

I have a 68 gmc longbed and I'm having difficulty with finding the Vin stamped on the frame, when did they start stamping on the frame and did gmc's receive these markings also? And can anybody post a picture of approximately where the one under the cab should be.? Thanks :-) oh and if there's no stamp on the frame near the steering box will there be one under the cab?
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I have a 67 GMC that doesn't have any frame #'s stamped either. Had it blasted and powdered and no visible #'s. I think some early gmc's were like that.

SmokeShadows · 06-26-2013, 05:09 PM

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I have a 67 GMC that doesn't have any frame #'s stamped either. Had it blasted and powdered and no visible #'s. I think some early gmc's were like that.

I look all over for a Vin, and nothing, there are numbers on the side of the frame but not on top, I spent a good while scraping off dirt and crud off the frame and looking for one with a mirror and flashlight but found nothing, anybody able to decipher the numbers?
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SmokeShadows · 06-26-2013, 05:41 PM

Dude Tim you need to calm your tone, I'm trying to learn more about these trucks not troll over the forum, it's unnecessary to nag like that, all you should say is that the frame numbers are part numbers and be a nice guy and give information about said frame numbers instead of your remarks about my truck
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07-03-2011, 02:41 PM	#1
CHEVY_BOI93 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 61	wheres the hidden vin?? Help? so i am going to buy a 1970 chevy c10 swb. And i noticed it doesnt have any vin ID tags on it. guy who is selling it says the title goes with the truck. but im not buying it. I was just wondering if anybody could tell me where the hidden vin is on the frame or cab on the 67-72 c10 trucks, All input is welcome

07-03-2011, 11:20 PM	#2
Zoomin Man of Mini-Talents Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,295	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? VIN tag is in the driver side door pillar. The glove box door also has a sticker on the inside that has the VIN and the options. The will also be stamped on the top in the driver side frame rail in the engine compartment. Good luck! __________________ Steve Project - Ruth 66 Skylark Project - Lola 60 Biscayne Project - Iron Ox 54 GMC 100 Project - Darth 69 Camaro

07-03-2011, 11:22 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? the one on the metal plate on the cab side of the drivers door jamb under the striker is the ONLY one that LEGALLY identifies the truck. Without that, you have an illegal truck

07-16-2015, 11:54 AM	#7
Jurassic-1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New River Arizona Posts: 1,180	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? I bought an original black plate truck with ALL vin # intact from crayon marks, Glove Box, Plate on the cab ,Tag in glove box and it had the blue sticker on the driver door that was worn but the last 3 digits were there. Arizona DMV wanted me to leave the truck for a closer look. I took it to another DMV and the guy there said oh this is not complete. I showed him all the other numbers and then he was satisfied. I called DMV and asked how many numbers are required and they told me 1-2 but it is up to the inspector. I get that they want to stop stolen vehicles but they should also look at the overall picture. It was complete and an original truck with more documentation than most. Even the black plates were those issued in 1970. I explained that having had a shop we replaced many drivers doors due to damage and the stickers were not available to replace then. If I have any vehicles I have had to buy bonded insurance on it and DMV issues a bonded title. It can be a pain but at least you can get registration legally going this rout. I know each state may differ.

07-04-2011, 12:01 AM	#9
Jenkins Classics Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Hendersonville,TN. Posts: 11	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? Partial vin on the drivers side upper frame rail,right at the gearbox area.You might have to do some scraping to see but if he has a title these numbers on the drivers frame rail will match the last 8 or 9 numbers on the vin number stated on the title.If you are looking for a opinion I would not mess with a vehicle with a vin tag,it will give you problems down the road.

07-04-2011, 12:05 AM	#10
Jenkins Classics Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Hendersonville,TN. Posts: 11	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? Excuse me I ment I would not mess with one without a vin tag

07-04-2011, 01:09 PM	#11
CHEVY_BOI93 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 61	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? i appreciate all the help guys. but i didnt find anything. i found some number under the cab on the frame rail but they dont match the vin. and i checked my dads 70 c10 and it also has numbers but they dont match either....maybe im not looking for it correctly. if someone could post a picture of where your truck has it or maybe seen it. i would really like that. i cant pass up a truck like that

07-04-2011, 01:19 PM	#12
Jenkins Classics Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Hendersonville,TN. Posts: 11	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? You mean that the numbers under the cab do not match the vin# on the title that he is producing,correct?

07-04-2011, 01:28 PM	#13
Jenkins Classics Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Hendersonville,TN. Posts: 11	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? If I could I would take pics. of my vin#locations on my frame today for you,but my frame is being sandblasted 42 miles from me at this point.Hate to see you get into something that might not be right.

07-04-2011, 01:55 PM	#14
bruceman1968 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,549	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? Chevy, There is more than one set of numbers on your frame. If you found the numbers on the side of the frame they won't match anything. If you find the numbers on the top of the frame they will partially match the vin. But I see a big red flag here. If the cab has NO vin plate then DON'T buy that truck. As said in post #3 it won't be legal. If you don't have a vin plate on the cab, then you don't have a truck (Except for parts) The vin plate is on the drivers side rear pillar under the striker. __________________ CHEVY/GMC VIN DECODERS

07-04-2011, 02:16 PM	#15
bruceman1968 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,549	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? There are two places for a frame partial VIN number on the frame. One place is on top of the frame under the cab. This one is hard to see with the cab on. The same number will also be on top of the frame in the engine compartment. It is much easier to find and see. Driver side top of frame across from the front of the engine block. Here is a pic of mine. My PS pump is what you see at the top of the pic. __________________ CHEVY/GMC VIN DECODERS

07-04-2011, 02:16 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? on a 70... there would only be one plate in that location... but without it, you have a parts truck

07-04-2011, 02:52 PM	#17
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? you also can't see the VIN stamp on the frame rail under the cab without removing the cab. it is on the top surface of the frame rail, not the side.

07-05-2011, 12:24 AM	#18
CHEVY_BOI93 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 61	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? wow thanks bruceman1968!!! you were a very big help. i found them. turns out you couldnt see them cause it was painted over. it was scratched off and bam! the numbers match and yeah i know if it doesnt have the cab plate its not legal. but the glove box and door have stickers. and ill live with that. i was just concerned with the chasiss i appreciate all the help guys.

07-05-2011, 10:40 AM	#19
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? in alabama, without the door tag you won't be able to get it registered which means no license plate, regardless of the frame markings ... just a thought



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07-05-2011, 12:21 PM	#20
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? I have heard that having the frame numbers matching the title, is sufficient here in Arkansas. I already have the title to my truck, but am going to be using a '68 cab. Yeah, the numbers don't match my title, but my frame does. I'll be taking the tag off of my '69 cab, just for tickles and grins. I have a bill of sale for my replacement cab, but I'd rather have the numbers to match across the board. I'm gonna get a pair of the rosette rivets and I know they are not cheap, but that's what I'll do. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

06-26-2013, 03:05 PM	#21
SmokeShadows Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: California Posts: 46	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? I have a 68 gmc longbed and I'm having difficulty with finding the Vin stamped on the frame, when did they start stamping on the frame and did gmc's receive these markings also? And can anybody post a picture of approximately where the one under the cab should be.? Thanks :-) oh and if there's no stamp on the frame near the steering box will there be one under the cab? Posted via Mobile Device

06-26-2013, 03:24 PM	#22
tlcrz1972 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Gainesville, TEXAS Posts: 658	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? Don't remove the vin plate off of any cab for any reason, if the cab came with the tag that is the identifier that is isn't stolen. In Texas I had to take a truck with a different cab to DMV theft division to have it verified and paper work done to denote this change in Austin. Now the truck is totally legal even though the cab vin plate DOESN't match the frame rail numbers. I just had to have proof of purchase VIA a sales receipt from the salvage yard for the cab. Plus the title for the frame, And proof of purchase of other parts that went into the truck. Again DO NOT REMOVE THE VIN TAG OFF OF THE ORIGINAL CAB AND PUT ON THE REPLACEMENT CAB. Call your DMV and ask questions before you do the dumb mistake I did before I learned the correct way.

06-26-2013, 05:41 PM	#25
SmokeShadows Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: California Posts: 46	Re: wheres the hidden vin?? Help? Dude Tim you need to calm your tone, I'm trying to learn more about these trucks not troll over the forum, it's unnecessary to nag like that, all you should say is that the frame numbers are part numbers and be a nice guy and give information about said frame numbers instead of your remarks about my truck Posted via Mobile Device

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