B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

litew8 · 09-20-2011, 10:59 PM

Does anybody have a 71-72 with B5 Blue + white top/sides? Considering this color but would love to see it on our trucks

Zoomin · 09-20-2011, 11:21 PM

It's a great color for sure. Definitely pops.

litew8 · 09-20-2011, 11:42 PM

Did a search for B5 paint here in the forum but turned up nothing. I dig that old street rod look of the late 60's early 70's. Looks good with white too.

**71blksuper4x4** · 09-20-2011, 11:46 PM

B5 blue = surf blue..... try surf blue in a search. Trevor

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 12:19 AM

Thanks 71blksuper4x4! Found some.

dukcaln · 09-21-2011, 11:03 AM

that color is awsome.... I was wondering what colors to consider on mine and you may have made up my mind..

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 11:48 AM

I'm not sure it's the same color. Is the challenger pic above the same color that is on a 69 chevelle?

Regular Guy · 09-21-2011, 07:07 PM

Dodge does seem to have nice looking blues--the guy I got this from just had it redone in the Dodge Dakota / Ram color "Intense Blue Pearl". It's similiar; looks to be a bit darker...

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 07:48 PM

I'm thinking the 69 Chevelle had Lemans Blue (71 code).
My uncle has this car since new. My brother calls this color Hamms Beercan Blue.

Think I just found it!

Dupont Formulas: (5030K Lemans Blue, 5033K Dover White)

5030K
CHROMABASE BC
GENERAL MOTORS CORP 71 69-69 LEMANS BLUE
MIX THOROUGHLY SOON AFTER WEIGHING
METALLIC/IRIDESCENT CONTENT > 5 GRAMS/LITER
MIXED BY: Classic Performance & Restoration 7/5/2006
Tinting Guide
Mix Size: Pint
826J ORGANIC BLUE 47.5
827J BLUE 80.3
807J LS BLACK 106.0
811J MED ALUMINUM 123.1
802J LS WHITE 125.9
150K B/C BALANCER 368.6
175K BINDER 430.0
© 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software program
7/5/2006
MIXED BY: Bill Wood ** MSDS LEAD-FREE ** RO # Cust: © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software programData Version 1189

5033K
CHROMABASE BC
GENERAL MOTORS CORP 50 69-70 DOVER WHITE
MIX THOROUGHLY SOON AFTER WEIGHING
MIXED BY: Classic Performance & Restoration 7/5/2006
Tinting Guide
Mix Size: Pint
801J HS WHITE 142.3
807J LS BLACK 145.6
890J TRANSOX YELO 147.4
884J LS RED OXIDE 147.6
150K B/C BALANCER 431.9
175K BINDER 479.7
© 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software program
7/5/2006
MIXED BY: Bill Wood ** MSDS LEAD-FREE ** RO # Cust: © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software programData Version 1189

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Yes, those formulas are for 1 pint. You would have to multiply by 8 to get a gallon.

**** IMPORTANT ****
The numbers behind the tints/balancer/binder are CUMULATIVE weights in grams, NOT individual weights.

Example Formula:

tint 1 34.0
tint 2 40.5
tint 3 50.0

So, you would start by zeroing your scale with the can on it, then add 34 grams of tint 1, then add tint 2 untill your scale was at 40.5 (which would be 6.5 grams of tint 2), then add tint 3 untill the scale was at 50.0 (which would be 9.5 grams of tint 3). This procedure would most likely be done by the paint shop ... unless you have a buddy with a Dupont mix/tint rack.

dukcaln · 09-21-2011, 08:58 PM

yes, thats awsome..... I like it

Quote:

Originally Posted by litew8

I'm thinking the 69 Chevelle had Lemans Blue (71 code).
My uncle has this car since new. My brother calls this color Hamms Beercan Blue.

Think I just found it!

Dupont Formulas: (5030K Lemans Blue, 5033K Dover White)

5030K
CHROMABASE BC
GENERAL MOTORS CORP 71 69-69 LEMANS BLUE
MIX THOROUGHLY SOON AFTER WEIGHING
METALLIC/IRIDESCENT CONTENT > 5 GRAMS/LITER
MIXED BY: Classic Performance & Restoration 7/5/2006
Tinting Guide
Mix Size: Pint
826J ORGANIC BLUE 47.5
827J BLUE 80.3
807J LS BLACK 106.0
811J MED ALUMINUM 123.1
802J LS WHITE 125.9
150K B/C BALANCER 368.6
175K BINDER 430.0
© 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software program
7/5/2006
MIXED BY: Bill Wood ** MSDS LEAD-FREE ** RO # Cust: © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software programData Version 1189

5033K
CHROMABASE BC
GENERAL MOTORS CORP 50 69-70 DOVER WHITE
MIX THOROUGHLY SOON AFTER WEIGHING
MIXED BY: Classic Performance & Restoration 7/5/2006
Tinting Guide
Mix Size: Pint
801J HS WHITE 142.3
807J LS BLACK 145.6
890J TRANSOX YELO 147.4
884J LS RED OXIDE 147.6
150K B/C BALANCER 431.9
175K BINDER 479.7
© 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software program
7/5/2006
MIXED BY: Bill Wood ** MSDS LEAD-FREE ** RO # Cust: © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software programData Version 1189

-----------------
Yes, those formulas are for 1 pint. You would have to multiply by 8 to get a gallon.

**** IMPORTANT ****
The numbers behind the tints/balancer/binder are CUMULATIVE weights in grams, NOT individual weights.

Example Formula:

tint 1 34.0
tint 2 40.5
tint 3 50.0

So, you would start by zeroing your scale with the can on it, then add 34 grams of tint 1, then add tint 2 untill your scale was at 40.5 (which would be 6.5 grams of tint 2), then add tint 3 untill the scale was at 50.0 (which would be 9.5 grams of tint 3). This procedure would most likely be done by the paint shop ... unless you have a buddy with a Dupont mix/tint rack.

Painter D · 09-21-2011, 09:24 PM

B5 is "NOT" the same color that's on the Challenger in the pic above, nor is the name of it "Surf Blue"

PQD ,is the paint code for "Surf Blue", and that's what's on the Challenger in the pic

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 09:34 PM

PQD is a paint code? I knew the colors looked different to me, compared to the Chevelle SS. "Surf blue" is a Chrysler color?
Think it's got more metallic or is lighter than the Chevelle SS Lemans Blue. I checked out your build thread the other day 69CS - nice work.

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69chevyshort

B5 is "NOT" the same color that's on the Challenger in the pic above

Are you certain?

Dark Knight · 09-21-2011, 10:00 PM

It ALMOST looks like the same color of my truck. Mine's a tad darker.

Painter D · 09-21-2011, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litew8

Are you certain?

Unless Chrysler has changed something I'm not aware of, I'm sure.

If you would like to make absolute sure go look in the driver side door jamb on the Challenger on the sticker that's on the door itself and it should have the paint code on it.

tow guys · 09-21-2011, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69chevyshort

B5 is "NOT" the same color that's on the Challenger in the pic above, nor is the name of it "Surf Blue"

PQD ,is the paint code for "Surf Blue", and that's what's on the Challenger in the pic

PQD is the paint code but everyone knows that color as B5 blue.
And that's not a Challenger in the pic. It's a 2008 Dodge Charger SRT8 Superbee edition. Challengers have 2 hood scoops. Not one large center opening.

litew8 · 09-22-2011, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tow guys

And that's not a Challenger in the pic. It's a 2008 Dodge Charger SRT8 Superbee edition. Challengers have 2 hood scoops. Not one large center opening.

Yes, I commented the correction in a later post. Charger in post #1, Challenger others. Both cars (pictures) have the same paint though. Thanks for the Surf/B5 color clarification and how is Cooter's tow truck coming along!

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukcaln

yes, thats awsome..... I like it

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 10:28 PM

69CS, here's the post for that picture -
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/...33&postcount=7

Okay, so the first pic up thread with the Super Bee on the hood is a Charger. But the second pic with that dude and corvete is a Challenger. Same colors.

Painter D · 09-21-2011, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litew8

69CS, here's the post for that picture -
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/...33&postcount=7

Okay, so the first pic up thread with the Super Bee on the hood is a Charger. But the second pic with that dude and corvete is a Challenger. Same colors.

I checked out the link, as far as the color being from the 60's,and 70's I can't say either way. That was way before my time (I'm 31), and as far as that color only being on 1000 Challengers made in 08' , I can't confirm that either.

What I can tell you for sure though is PQD is definately the paint code for "Surf Blue", and from the pic(s) posted above that's what it looks like to me. I can also tell you that sometimes auto. mfg's rename and recode the exact same colors. This very well could be one of those circumstances.

Hmmm, you would think since I'm an auto painter , and I own a Challenger I would have concrete proof, but I don't. This kind of peaks my interest I think I'll look into it tomorrow.

litew8 · 09-21-2011, 10:36 PM

Rack Man has the color! Close to what I'm looking to see - but no white on the sides, and I'm not sure it's the same Dover White the Chevelle has.

dukcaln · 09-21-2011, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litew8

Rack Man has the color! Close to what I'm looking to see - but no white on the sides, and I'm not sure it's the same Dover White the Chevelle has.

man that is nice....

tow guys · 09-21-2011, 11:49 PM

Actually, that pic above isn't even a Challenger. It's a 2008 Dodge Charger SRT8 Superbee in what is commonly known or referred to as B5 blue. That color was available on SRT8 Chargers for 08' and Challengers of R/T and SRT8 design for 09' through 10'.

litew8 · 09-22-2011, 11:53 PM

What do you all think? Is this truck Lemans Blue? The owner hasn't posted since 94.

litew8 · 09-23-2011, 12:54 AM

err, since 2004 I meant

09-20-2011, 11:21 PM	#2
Zoomin Man of Mini-Talents Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,295	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? It's a great color for sure. Definitely pops. __________________ Steve Project - Ruth 66 Skylark Project - Lola 60 Biscayne Project - Iron Ox 54 GMC 100 Project - Darth 69 Camaro

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litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? Did a search for B5 paint here in the forum but turned up nothing. I dig that old street rod look of the late 60's early 70's. Looks good with white too. __________________ project: "my happy mess"

09-20-2011, 11:46 PM	#4
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,155	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? B5 blue = surf blue..... try surf blue in a search. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

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litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? Thanks 71blksuper4x4! Found some. __________________ project: "my happy mess"

09-21-2011, 11:03 AM	#6
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09-20-2011, 10:59 PM	#1
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? Does anybody have a 71-72 with B5 Blue + white top/sides? Considering this color but would love to see it on our trucks __________________ project: "my happy mess"

09-21-2011, 11:48 AM	#7
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? I'm not sure it's the same color. Is the challenger pic above the same color that is on a 69 chevelle? __________________ project: "my happy mess"

09-21-2011, 07:07 PM	#8
Regular Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Valparaiso, Indiana Posts: 38	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? Dodge does seem to have nice looking blues--the guy I got this from just had it redone in the Dodge Dakota / Ram color "Intense Blue Pearl". It's similiar; looks to be a bit darker... Attached Images

09-21-2011, 07:48 PM	#9
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? I'm thinking the 69 Chevelle had Lemans Blue (71 code). My uncle has this car since new. My brother calls this color Hamms Beercan Blue. Think I just found it! Dupont Formulas: (5030K Lemans Blue, 5033K Dover White) 5030K CHROMABASE BC GENERAL MOTORS CORP 71 69-69 LEMANS BLUE MIX THOROUGHLY SOON AFTER WEIGHING METALLIC/IRIDESCENT CONTENT > 5 GRAMS/LITER MIXED BY: Classic Performance & Restoration 7/5/2006 Tinting Guide Mix Size: Pint 826J ORGANIC BLUE 47.5 827J BLUE 80.3 807J LS BLACK 106.0 811J MED ALUMINUM 123.1 802J LS WHITE 125.9 150K B/C BALANCER 368.6 175K BINDER 430.0 © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software program 7/5/2006 MIXED BY: Bill Wood MSDS LEAD-FREE RO # Cust: © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software programData Version 1189 5033K CHROMABASE BC GENERAL MOTORS CORP 50 69-70 DOVER WHITE MIX THOROUGHLY SOON AFTER WEIGHING MIXED BY: Classic Performance & Restoration 7/5/2006 Tinting Guide Mix Size: Pint 801J HS WHITE 142.3 807J LS BLACK 145.6 890J TRANSOX YELO 147.4 884J LS RED OXIDE 147.6 150K B/C BALANCER 431.9 175K BINDER 479.7 © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software program 7/5/2006 MIXED BY: Bill Wood MSDS LEAD-FREE RO # Cust: © 2000-06. E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Company. All rights reserved. ColorNet® software programData Version 1189 ----------------- Yes, those formulas are for 1 pint. You would have to multiply by 8 to get a gallon. ** IMPORTANT ** The numbers behind the tints/balancer/binder are CUMULATIVE weights in grams, NOT individual weights. Example Formula: tint 1 34.0 tint 2 40.5 tint 3 50.0 So, you would start by zeroing your scale with the can on it, then add 34 grams of tint 1, then add tint 2 untill your scale was at 40.5 (which would be 6.5 grams of tint 2), then add tint 3 untill the scale was at 50.0 (which would be 9.5 grams of tint 3). This procedure would most likely be done by the paint shop ... unless you have a buddy with a Dupont mix/tint rack. __________________ project: "my happy mess" Last edited by litew8; 09-21-2011 at 07:54 PM.

09-21-2011, 09:24 PM	#11
Painter D Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW (Forney) Posts: 1,529	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? B5 is "NOT" the same color that's on the Challenger in the pic above, nor is the name of it "Surf Blue" PQD ,is the paint code for "Surf Blue", and that's what's on the Challenger in the pic __________________ '58 SWB Fleetside...Front & Rear Porterbuilt Dropmember, 6.0 LS /4L60E. Accuair E-level, 20 Billet Specialties (Vintecs) '63 Buick Riviera ... AccuAir E-level, 20" Billet Specialties (Vintecs) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=528853&page=5

09-21-2011, 09:34 PM	#12
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? PQD is a paint code? I knew the colors looked different to me, compared to the Chevelle SS. "Surf blue" is a Chrysler color? Think it's got more metallic or is lighter than the Chevelle SS Lemans Blue. I checked out your build thread the other day 69CS - nice work. __________________ project: "my happy mess" Last edited by litew8; 09-21-2011 at 09:51 PM.

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09-21-2011, 10:28 PM	#19
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? 69CS, here's the post for that picture - http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/...33&postcount=7 Okay, so the first pic up thread with the Super Bee on the hood is a Charger. But the second pic with that dude and corvete is a Challenger. Same colors. __________________ project: "my happy mess"

09-21-2011, 10:36 PM	#21
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? Rack Man has the color! Close to what I'm looking to see - but no white on the sides, and I'm not sure it's the same Dover White the Chevelle has. __________________ project: "my happy mess" Last edited by litew8; 09-21-2011 at 10:55 PM.

09-21-2011, 11:49 PM	#23
tow guys Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Bayville NJ Posts: 385	Re: B5 Challenger Blue - Anyone? Actually, that pic above isn't even a Challenger. It's a 2008 Dodge Charger SRT8 Superbee in what is commonly known or referred to as B5 blue. That color was available on SRT8 Chargers for 08' and Challengers of R/T and SRT8 design for 09' through 10'. __________________ Check out my 70 GMC tow truck project here.......http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=440431 Member of the 1-Ton Club! http://www.eastcoastcarandtruck.org Last edited by tow guys; 09-22-2011 at 12:00 AM.



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09-22-2011, 11:53 PM	#24
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