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ihatericeburners · 09-23-2011, 08:35 PM

I have got some problems. My daily driver is giving me some fits. I pulled the w/c belt off the pump to try to gain some h.p. and no she seems to run crappy when I get on her above 3ooo rpm. It's almost like its a lake of fuel. Ive never had this problem before, and just recently I installed a carb slavery. Would this be causing a lack of power?
Thanks for any help! Tony.
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PanelDeland · 09-23-2011, 09:46 PM

What's a w/c belt?

And a carb slavery?

Longhorn Man · 09-23-2011, 11:50 PM

A/C belt maybe?

sleepertruck72 · 09-24-2011, 02:28 AM

And a carb slavery?[/QUOTE]

X2

**special-K** · 09-24-2011, 06:33 AM

My guess is your secondaries aren't kicking in.

**special-K** · 09-25-2011, 09:08 AM

What carb do you have? Is it vacuum secondary.

**Boog** · 09-25-2011, 09:32 AM

I'm sorry but this sounds "foreign" to me...

litew8 · 09-25-2011, 10:57 AM

My guess is a typo w instead of a on the keyboard. No idea about the slavery thing. Maybe adjust your timing.

biggestjohn · 09-25-2011, 12:15 PM

Lake=lack

If he pulled the water pump belt, its probably detonating due to the lack of cooling the combustion chambers. Heat will build up there ungodly fast. Don't worry though, if he does this too much longer, his problem will become extreemly obvious, then he can replace the engine.

Does slavery=spacer?

He probably means A\C belt. The A is close to W on keyboard, and he was using a cell phone.

Check timing, read plugs to see if Air fuel ratio is correct. Also look for vacume leaks. Pulling an A\C belt shouldn't cause engine problems.

*RUSHNBOBO* · 09-27-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by biggestjohn

Don't worry though, if he does this too much longer, his problem will become extreemly obvious, then he can replace the engine.

Wasn't going to say anything but since you brought it up I noticed you have an interesting way to spell "extreemly"........and you weren't even using a cell.

extreemly: to be even more extreeme than "extremely" ?....maybeey

biggestjohn : I shouldnt talk because............if it went fur spael chec id miissspel evary othar werd ...........Rush

Lippyp · 09-25-2011, 12:46 PM

My translation from the predictive text nonsense (he posted from a mobile device and I have the same problem with my HTC, its turns even the simplest message into gibberish sometime) Lake is lack, w/c should be A/C god alone knows what a slavery is but I guarantee its nothing like the word he typed.

biggestjohn · 09-25-2011, 01:02 PM

slavery=spacer L is next to p on keyboard, v next to c, y is because he was boared

Simple english

**special-K** · 09-25-2011, 06:29 PM

Anyway,despite the obvious typos,I still seemed to gather what his problem was and gave my guess to what the problem was. Before the poor feller runs off from the criticism,does anyone else have a suggestion for him? If you have vacuum secondaries,such as with the Quadrajet that comes on these trucks,you may simply have a vacuum leak. Check that white canister on the passenger side of the carb to see if it's broken.

biggestjohn · 09-26-2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Anyway,despite the obvious typos,I still seemed to gather what his problem was and gave my guess to what the problem was. Before the poor feller runs off from the criticism,does anyone else have a suggestion for him? If you have vacuum secondaries,such as with the Quadrajet that comes on these trucks,you may simply have a vacuum leak. Check that white canister on the passenger side of the carb to see if it's broken.

Criticism? Naw, more like solving a puzzle. Made the morning kinda interesting.

BTW: Board=bored

oops

biggestjohn · 09-27-2011, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by biggestjohn

Criticism? Naw, more like solving a puzzle. Made the morning kinda interesting.

BTW: Board=bored

oops

boared=bored

Thats bad when you misspell the word that you misspelled

duh

treveiger · 09-26-2011, 12:14 PM

On now to
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dukcaln · 09-26-2011, 12:18 PM

whats the story, get it running,, I would suggest the belt go back on and check for vacuum leaks....

*RUSHNBOBO* · 09-26-2011, 04:03 PM

Just wrote to "ihatericeburners" on his profile page, and said there was about ten guys willing to help out, but we need more info. Hopefully we get him back on the thread.

dukcaln · 09-26-2011, 04:07 PM

me too........ hope he comes back for an update

**special-K** · 09-26-2011, 06:23 PM

I'b wumbering toob.

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treveiger · 09-27-2011, 11:06 AM

come on guys we've got some truck geniuses on here we should have this licked by now

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I have auto correct on my phone so there's times I've cussed at this thing quite a bit

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ihatericeburners · 10-09-2011, 12:16 PM

Sorry for the confusion. I did post from my HTC phone. It's nice being able to wrench around a lil bit in the garage and have the internet as close to you as a wrench! soooo, I have the goodwrench Crate 350 with edelbrock carb. I had a carb spacer and removed it. Now its not running like it used to 6 months ago before the spacer at higher rpms. I haves adjusted the timming, jetting, and I went ahead and left the water pump belt on for now.
Sorry about the late response, ts been busy at work. And now I have some time to play around. Thanks for the replies!
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*RUSHNBOBO* · 10-09-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ihatericeburners

I had a carb spacer and removed it. Now its not running like it used to 6 months ago before the spacer at higher rpms. I haves adjusted the timming, jetting, and I went ahead and left the water pump belt on for now.

First off how tall and what type of spacer are we talking about (4hole or open)? 4 hole spacers can lower the power band slightly ....open spacers can raise it slightly. Spacer tuning is a hit or miss experience..... some motors may show a small gain with a taller spacer, and some may lose a little horsepower , some do nothing.

If your motor is running that much worse I highly doubt it's just the spacer.
When you say "now its not running like it used to 6 months ago"....did you also change something else at or around the same time, or was it just the spacer ?

Longhorn Man · 10-09-2011, 01:31 PM

Why not put the spacer back on

ihatericeburners · 10-09-2011, 10:52 PM

Just the spacer. And its a 4 hole. One inch tall. She ran great before the a/c and when the a/c was installed it seemed like it would run a little lean with the a/c belt on. Then I put on the spacer and it brought her back to life. Now I have removed both the spacer and the a/c belt and now have my problem.
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09-23-2011, 08:35 PM	#1
ihatericeburners Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new port richey, fl Posts: 118	need some wisdom, shes not running right. I have got some problems. My daily driver is giving me some fits. I pulled the w/c belt off the pump to try to gain some h.p. and no she seems to run crappy when I get on her above 3ooo rpm. It's almost like its a lake of fuel. Ive never had this problem before, and just recently I installed a carb slavery. Would this be causing a lack of power? Thanks for any help! Tony. Posted via Mobile Device Last edited by 70cst; 09-26-2011 at 11:29 AM.

09-23-2011, 09:46 PM	#2
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09-23-2011, 11:50 PM	#3
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09-25-2011, 10:57 AM	#8
litew8 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 3,016	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. My guess is a typo w instead of a on the keyboard. No idea about the slavery thing. Maybe adjust your timing. __________________ project: "my happy mess"

09-25-2011, 12:15 PM	#9
biggestjohn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Russiaville Posts: 203	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. Lake=lack If he pulled the water pump belt, its probably detonating due to the lack of cooling the combustion chambers. Heat will build up there ungodly fast. Don't worry though, if he does this too much longer, his problem will become extreemly obvious, then he can replace the engine. Does slavery=spacer? He probably means A\C belt. The A is close to W on keyboard, and he was using a cell phone. Check timing, read plugs to see if Air fuel ratio is correct. Also look for vacume leaks. Pulling an A\C belt shouldn't cause engine problems. Last edited by biggestjohn; 09-25-2011 at 12:42 PM. Reason: ac

09-25-2011, 12:46 PM	#11
Lippyp English Chevy Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shropshire, UK/ Lot, France Posts: 1,848	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. My translation from the predictive text nonsense (he posted from a mobile device and I have the same problem with my HTC, its turns even the simplest message into gibberish sometime) Lake is lack, w/c should be A/C god alone knows what a slavery is but I guarantee its nothing like the word he typed. __________________ Phil '67 C10 long fleet. 350/TH350, 4 bbl Carter, K&N, Dual exhaust, loads of stuff coming soon 2001 S10 Blazer Daily Driver, bone stock 4 door 4x4 with manual transmission

09-25-2011, 01:02 PM	#12
biggestjohn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Russiaville Posts: 203	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. slavery=spacer L is next to p on keyboard, v next to c, y is because he was boared Simple english

09-25-2011, 06:29 PM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. Anyway,despite the obvious typos,I still seemed to gather what his problem was and gave my guess to what the problem was. Before the poor feller runs off from the criticism,does anyone else have a suggestion for him? If you have vacuum secondaries,such as with the Quadrajet that comes on these trucks,you may simply have a vacuum leak. Check that white canister on the passenger side of the carb to see if it's broken. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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09-26-2011, 04:07 PM	#19
dukcaln Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: vacaville ca Posts: 1,304	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. me too........ hope he comes back for an update __________________ 04 CHEVY LLY LS DURAMAX 4WD. MODS TO FOLLOW, EFI LIVE, BUILT TRANS, LBZ MP, LIFT PUMP *SOLD* 1972 chevy c10

09-26-2011, 06:23 PM	#20
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. I'b wumbering toob. posted via mobile device __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

09-27-2011, 11:06 AM	#21
treveiger Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,093	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. come on guys we've got some truck geniuses on here we should have this licked by now. I have auto correct on my phone so there's times I've cussed at this thing quite a bit. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1969 Chevy c20(Miss Hackjob)

10-09-2011, 12:16 PM	#22
ihatericeburners Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new port richey, fl Posts: 118	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. Sorry for the confusion. I did post from my HTC phone. It's nice being able to wrench around a lil bit in the garage and have the internet as close to you as a wrench! soooo, I have the goodwrench Crate 350 with edelbrock carb. I had a carb spacer and removed it. Now its not running like it used to 6 months ago before the spacer at higher rpms. I haves adjusted the timming, jetting, and I went ahead and left the water pump belt on for now. Sorry about the late response, ts been busy at work. And now I have some time to play around. Thanks for the replies! Posted via Mobile Device

10-09-2011, 01:31 PM	#24
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. Why not put the spacer back on

10-09-2011, 10:52 PM	#25
ihatericeburners Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new port richey, fl Posts: 118	Re: need some wisdom, shes not running right. Just the spacer. And its a 4 hole. One inch tall. She ran great before the a/c and when the a/c was installed it seemed like it would run a little lean with the a/c belt on. Then I put on the spacer and it brought her back to life. Now I have removed both the spacer and the a/c belt and now have my problem. Posted via Mobile Device

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