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Old 10-23-2011, 06:16 PM   #1
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No Fuel??

O.K. I just finished installing my engine. I installed new cam, new lifters. new
valve o-rings. I also cleaned all the carbon and installed all new gaskets.
I when to start the engine and found no fuel coming to the carb. I can tell because I also installed a glass fuel filter before the carb.
I used starting fluid and all I got was a loud pop(with some flames coming from the exhaust manifold)) but no fuel and no start.
The engine cranks nice and wants to start.
In the reassembly I thought I installed the fuel pump correctly. This is my first major engine job, so I could have installed it wrong.
Question 1 Can someone give me instructions as to install the fuel pump. I am going to pull it and I may purchase a new one since the old one appears to be original.
Question2 What is causing the loud pop?
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:48 PM   #2
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Re: No Fuel??

did you forget to install the fuel pump drive rod when instaling the new camshaft. aslo check if you have the inlet and outlet lines correct. and maybe try pulling the spark plugs from the motor and cranking it with the starter to prime the fuel system. look down your carb and hit the throttle and once you see the fuel squirt from the accelerator pump your good to go
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:50 PM   #3
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Re: No Fuel??

and the loud pop could be your ignition timing 180 out
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:11 PM   #4
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Re: No Fuel??

Fuel pump drive rod? I do not think I forgot to install this piece.
I am looking at the manual and could not locate the drive rod, is it the rocker arm?
I think the timing could be off. I installed it to the maual directions, but being my first major project(mechanical) I could have.
I will try turning the distibutor 180 and see what happens!
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:15 PM   #5
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Re: No Fuel??

I forgot to state that this is a 292 engine
If this changes things
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:29 PM   #6
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Re: No Fuel??

I just visted NAPA online and they had a photo of the push rod.
Now that i see this, I beleive that I did not install the push rod.
When I disassembled the engine I did not see this part, so in reassembling I installed what I removed.
I do hope I can install this item without major disassembly?
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:08 AM   #7
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Re: No Fuel??

The I6 engines do not have the fuel pump pushrod, only the V8's do. On the I6's the fuel pump is actuated directly from the camshaft.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:05 AM   #8
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Re: No Fuel??

Make sure you get fuel primed up through the filter. I had trouble recently trying to get fuel to the carb. I just sucked on the tube until fuel came up into the filter. After that, the pump was able to take over.
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:26 AM   #9
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Re: No Fuel??

sometimes it takes for ever trying to get the fuel system primed again, Ive killed the battery trying to crank it over to get fuel up to carb...i suggest unhooking it from the inlet side of the fuel pump and see if the fuel pours out of the hose if it does pour out the fuel pump might need to be replaced if your not getting fuel to carb bowl,...if it doesnt pour out ethier use a siphon pump or the old school way and suck on it to see if you get the fuel to flow out.....if you cant get it to pour out something is blocking the fuel from tank to end of hose...

And the best way i learned to get it primed if your getting fuel to pump is pour a little gas into the carb and start it up, repeat till engine stays running....works better then the starting fluid that evaporates by the time you get in cab and turn the key....i would take caution tho if your backfiring out the carb ,might cause the fuel to ignite and you have to rush and fan out the fire from carb, best thing todo is get the timing close as you can by setting everything up to top dead center on number one cylinder and distributor rotor on number one.
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:42 AM   #10
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Re: No Fuel??

That sounds like a plan now.
Now, with the timing can I just turn the rotor 180 and start from there?
At the start I had TDC and thought I had the distributor set correct.
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Old 10-25-2011, 09:40 PM   #11
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Re: No Fuel??

I did a little work on the truck today and got the fuel to flow. It just was not primed!
Now, my next job is that I am not receiving spark. I will be following the manual to check all ignition parts.
Any ideas out there?
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:44 AM   #12
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Re: No Fuel??

first off need to know if your running hei or points?

Start from square one with the ignition system , pull the number one spark plug and put a piece of tissue or napkin paper over the hole push it in a little , turn the motor over with the crank shaft pulley nut and a socket and breaker bar till that paper shoots out(Might have to do this a couple times to be sure paper shoots out) you then should be on the compression stroke.... Pull the cap off the distributor and watch the rotor and which way its rotating as you finish bringing the motor around till the timing tab is reading "0" or "tdc" and see if the rotor is facing the number one plug wire post (sometimes the number one plug is marked on cap)if its not loosen the distributor hold down and lift the distributor up and turn the rotor untill its facing number one plug wire post on cap, might have to wiggle it in and mess with it to get it set right and then tighten hold down enough that you can still turn the dizzy with a little bit of effort ....when you get it facing number one plug wire post or if it was when you turned it onto "tdc" then set your points with a feeler gauge (you will have to look up setting i dont know off the top of my head)and replace the cap and the number one spark plug..... If you have "HEI" just replace cap...then the next step is make sure all the plug wires are wired right and in the same rotation the rotor was turning, then check the gap on all your plugs with a plug gapper, this should be enough to get it to fire, try starting it and if it runs use a timing light and time it to right specs by turning the distributor back and froth,then tighten down distributor hold down, if it doesnt run then youll have to check if you coils good or coil pack on "HEI" which ever your running or if your wiring's right to the distributor or coil or if its getting power at all .....also if you have had the motor sitting any length of time and and the spark plugs in it they could foul up, ive had a motor that wouldnt start replaced the plugs and it fired right up i always suggest new plugs on a fresh fire up , also make sure the gap on new plugs are gapped right they are not always gapped right brand new and will not spark if mot gapped right. try doing what i said first and if not ill walk you thur testing your coil and wiring...also if you have a new coil they come bad also sometimes...also double and triple check plug wires( ive swore i had them right but they weren't on many occasions)!
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