1969 CST Tach or no Tach? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

stomper · 02-06-2012, 11:15 PM

Noticed this neat truck listed on eBay (not mine). The SPID lists overdrive trans and speed warning but NOT a tach. The build sheet DOES list a tach. Hmmm?? Was tach part of the OD trans equipment or did the SPID typer make a mistake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...item20c22ce19f

P.S. I'd like to copy/paste the ebay pix on this post for posterity but I can't figure it out. If someone can do that, please do.

Meatman · 02-07-2012, 12:04 AM

That is interesting!

**too much stuff** · 02-07-2012, 12:11 AM

There is a thread going on it right now by alreadygone, but i don't know how to link.....

Meatman · 02-07-2012, 12:28 AM

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=507392

**special-K** · 02-07-2012, 07:55 AM

That '69 appears to have a '70 grille insert. Hey,where's them tailgate letters?...or at least the holes for them? What are those mirrors off of? I like 'em. Would a CST in '69 come with the side marker light option and then have the deluxe lenses? It's an early production and maybe slipped in ahead of the marker light beginnings? I see a few oddities on this truck.

**FirstOwner69** · 02-07-2012, 03:10 PM

Here's what I see:
1) Grille is a 70 and headlight bezels should be black painted steel. Perhaps the grille was replaced due to damage.
2) There are holes for the tailgate letters. The letters appear to have been removed.
2) Early 69s did not have the deluxe markers. In fact my early December CST doesn't even have lights in the markers. I was told by Chevrolet that deluxe markers were used starting around mid-Dec.
3) No cargo light is correct for early 69 CSTs. Also added later in the model year.
4) Inside mirror is mounted on the windshield. Inside mirrors were an option and most of us just had the mirrors adhered to the windshield at a later date.

Except for the grille (not sure about the exterior mirrors) this truck looks very correct and original including under the hood (except for the replacement A/C compresor which has the electrical connector at the wrong position... S/B at 10:00).

**Already Gone** · 02-08-2012, 02:29 AM

Wow, I thought I knew these trucks but I guess there is always something to learn. I'm bidding on this truck and have talked to the seller (who isn't the owner) and apparently its a one owner truck. If I get it I'll meet the owner when I pick it up and maybe find out when the changes were done. I don't really need thsi truck but I love the black color ( with the patina) the 3 on the tree and the the fact it's a CST with A/C and very original. I'm tired of looking for a 72 Burb and will see if this will keep me happy over the summer. The box floor has holes and needs to be replaced.

**FirstOwner69** · 02-08-2012, 03:12 AM

I was just looking at the pics of that truck again and noticed that a "T" has been added to the front outlet on the master cylinder with a line to the cowl. There is also a box of some sort mounted under the dash near the column. This could be a hydraulic trailer brake controller that was used at one time. I've never seen one. Can anyone verify this?

**Already Gone** · 02-08-2012, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69

I was just looking at the pics of that truck again and noticed that a "T" has been added to the front outlet on the master cylinder with a line to the cowl. There is also a box of some sort mounted under the dash near the column. This could be a hydraulic trailer brake controller that was used at one time. I've never seen one. Can anyone verify this?

Yep, that is the line for the trailer brake and that is what is under the steering column. In those years that is how you had to hook up a trailer brake which isn't like today where all you do is plug and play. The 1970 I just bought has the same thing and it is hooked up the same way at the master cylinder.

trev1 · 02-08-2012, 07:18 AM

Hope this helps. My 69 CST has the side marler lights the deluxe type. they are old enough to be orig. It has no cargo lamp, I will check the SPID to see. From what I am reading above Your saying an early model year 69 CST's did not have the option of side marker lights. Thats interesting to say the least.

Thanks for the info..... Makes me wonder bout mine....

**special-K** · 02-08-2012, 08:07 AM

Yes,the first side marker lights were offered in late-69 as an option,then standard in '70. Once the lighted markers were offered,CSTs had lighted deluxe lenses...standard.

Greg,I hope you win the '69. Then you can swap the grille inserts and have correct trucks

. That's funny,both trucks are very correct except both have the others correct grille. You are looking at both examples of correct grilles...in the the wrong year truck!

**Already Gone** · 02-08-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Yes,the first side marker lights were offered in late-69 as an option,then standard in '70. Once the lighted markers were offered,CSTs had lighted deluxe lenses...standard.

Greg,I hope you win the '69. Then you can swap the grille inserts and have correct trucks

. That's funny,both trucks are very correct except both have the others correct grille. You are looking at both examples of correct grilles...in the the wrong year truck!

Yea, I posted those pics at work last night and driving home this morning I had the thought that maybe both trucks were wrong and Tim, you just confirmed it.

**Already Gone** · 02-08-2012, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

Yes,the first side marker lights were offered in late-69 as an option,then standard in '70. Once the lighted markers were offered,CSTs had lighted deluxe lenses...standard.

Greg,I hope you win the '69. Then you can swap the grille inserts and have correct trucks

. That's funny,both trucks are very correct except both have the others correct grille. You are looking at both examples of correct grilles...in the the wrong year truck!

Yea, After I posted those pics at work last night I looked at the attached ad pic of a 1970 and thought maybe both trucks were wrong and Tim, you just confirmed it.

**Already Gone** · 02-09-2012, 10:59 PM

I got it !!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT

**FirstOwner69** · 02-09-2012, 11:27 PM

Looks like a great buy! Congrats!

trev1 · 02-08-2012, 08:32 AM

Thanks Special-K.. I guess its good to know that mine still had the original equip on it. Just one more piece of info I know bout my truck.

Very much appreciated!!

**70cst** · 02-08-2012, 09:45 AM

I didn't realize speed warning was an option on 70 trucks. I again learned something.

**too much stuff** · 02-08-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 70cst

I didn't realize speed warning was an option on 70 trucks. I again learned something.

I think 69 was the last speedwarning. And i have only seen 2 from 69 trucks including this one.

**70shortfleet** · 02-08-2012, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70cst

I didn't realize speed warning was an option on 70 trucks. I again learned something.

Where did you read that the speed warning was a 70 option? The truck above with SW is a early 69.

**special-K** · 02-08-2012, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70shortfleet

Where did you read that the speed warning was a 70 option? The truck above with SW is a early 69.

Yeah,don't go by the grille. Go by the rest of the truck

**FirstOwner69** · 02-08-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70shortfleet

Where did you read that the speed warning was a 70 option? The truck above with SW is a early 69.

According to the vehicle information kits available at www.gmheritagecenter.com both cruise control and speed warning were available on the 69s. Only cruise was available on the 70s. Makes sense that cruise would be preferred over a buzzer.

02-06-2012, 11:15 PM	#1
stomper Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,701	1969 CST Tach or no Tach? Noticed this neat truck listed on eBay (not mine). The SPID lists overdrive trans and speed warning but NOT a tach. The build sheet DOES list a tach. Hmmm?? Was tach part of the OD trans equipment or did the SPID typer make a mistake? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...item20c22ce19f P.S. I'd like to copy/paste the ebay pix on this post for posterity but I can't figure it out. If someone can do that, please do. __________________ "I was patina when patina wasn't cool." 1973 Cheyenne SWB Sunset Gold / Frost White / Saddle Last edited by stomper; 02-06-2012 at 11:39 PM.

02-07-2012, 12:04 AM	#2
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02-07-2012, 12:11 AM	#3
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02-07-2012, 12:28 AM	#4
Meatman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 604	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=507392 __________________ Daily-94 K2500 350 5spd extended cab longbox Project Red Velvet-68 C20 396-th400-AC-PS-PB-all original except for the 8 track and the gun rack. Build thread>>>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=495881 My 01 TA and 88 Formula hide in the garage. :-)

02-07-2012, 07:55 AM	#5
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? That '69 appears to have a '70 grille insert. Hey,where's them tailgate letters?...or at least the holes for them? What are those mirrors off of? I like 'em. Would a CST in '69 come with the side marker light option and then have the deluxe lenses? It's an early production and maybe slipped in ahead of the marker light beginnings? I see a few oddities on this truck. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-07-2012, 03:10 PM	#6
FirstOwner69 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin & Arizona Posts: 4,852	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? Here's what I see: 1) Grille is a 70 and headlight bezels should be black painted steel. Perhaps the grille was replaced due to damage. 2) There are holes for the tailgate letters. The letters appear to have been removed. 2) Early 69s did not have the deluxe markers. In fact my early December CST doesn't even have lights in the markers. I was told by Chevrolet that deluxe markers were used starting around mid-Dec. 3) No cargo light is correct for early 69 CSTs. Also added later in the model year. 4) Inside mirror is mounted on the windshield. Inside mirrors were an option and most of us just had the mirrors adhered to the windshield at a later date. Except for the grille (not sure about the exterior mirrors) this truck looks very correct and original including under the hood (except for the replacement A/C compresor which has the electrical connector at the wrong position... S/B at 10:00). Last edited by FirstOwner69; 02-07-2012 at 03:17 PM.

02-08-2012, 02:29 AM	#7
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,143	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? Wow, I thought I knew these trucks but I guess there is always something to learn. I'm bidding on this truck and have talked to the seller (who isn't the owner) and apparently its a one owner truck. If I get it I'll meet the owner when I pick it up and maybe find out when the changes were done. I don't really need thsi truck but I love the black color ( with the patina) the 3 on the tree and the the fact it's a CST with A/C and very original. I'm tired of looking for a 72 Burb and will see if this will keep me happy over the summer. The box floor has holes and needs to be replaced. __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

02-08-2012, 03:12 AM	#8
FirstOwner69 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin & Arizona Posts: 4,852	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? I was just looking at the pics of that truck again and noticed that a "T" has been added to the front outlet on the master cylinder with a line to the cowl. There is also a box of some sort mounted under the dash near the column. This could be a hydraulic trailer brake controller that was used at one time. I've never seen one. Can anyone verify this?

02-08-2012, 07:18 AM	#10
trev1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Goodman,Mo Posts: 155	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? Hope this helps. My 69 CST has the side marler lights the deluxe type. they are old enough to be orig. It has no cargo lamp, I will check the SPID to see. From what I am reading above Your saying an early model year 69 CST's did not have the option of side marker lights. Thats interesting to say the least. Thanks for the info..... Makes me wonder bout mine....

02-08-2012, 08:07 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? Yes,the first side marker lights were offered in late-69 as an option,then standard in '70. Once the lighted markers were offered,CSTs had lighted deluxe lenses...standard. Greg,I hope you win the '69. Then you can swap the grille inserts and have correct trucks . That's funny,both trucks are very correct except both have the others correct grille. You are looking at both examples of correct grilles...in the the wrong year truck! __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 02-08-2012 at 11:09 AM.

02-09-2012, 10:59 PM	#14
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,143	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? I got it !!!!!!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

02-09-2012, 11:27 PM	#15
FirstOwner69 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin & Arizona Posts: 4,852	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? Looks like a great buy! Congrats!

02-08-2012, 08:32 AM	#16
trev1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Goodman,Mo Posts: 155	Re: 1969 CST Tach or no Tach? Thanks Special-K.. I guess its good to know that mine still had the original equip on it. Just one more piece of info I know bout my truck. Very much appreciated!!

02-08-2012, 09:45 AM	#17
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