68 longbed 5.3/4l60e

[tallic68]

Hello everyone. My name is mike. I've been here for a while, lurking in the shadows. You guys have helped me with a few problems already. Wanted to start a build thread to show it off and get the needed help from you guys. I've been scouring this and others sites getting parts list together and figuring out where to get them and where to get the computer flashed and harness redone.

I have a 68 c10 with 70 monte Carlo 350 2 barrel, th400. I've blew it apart and blasted it back in December '10. Full suspension rebuild kit from LMC and converted to 73 style power disk brakes and added a front sway bar from cpp. Cleaned up and painted the metal interior. All while using it as my daily driver. New windshield and installed a split back window. Got the disk break conversion, used fenders, set of centerline dragline wheels and cowl for free from the guy that did the concrete work in My back yard.

Well now comes the big step. Yesterday I bought a 02 5.3 out of a silverado 1500. And will be picking up the trans tomorrow. Got the Dow pedal but need to get the tac tomorrow as well. Found out the salvage place gave me the wrong computer and I swapping that out tomorrow to.
Just figured out I can't upload pics from my I pad. So I gotta wait till later to post pics.

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[ls1nova71]

Make sure that is actually a 2002 engine as the TAC and throttle body are different for the 2000-2002. The reason I say this is they are not as common as the 2003 up DBW systems. Your harness should have blue and red connectors on the PCM, if they are blue and green its not an 02. Just a heads up.
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[tallic68]

Originally Posted by ls1nova71

Make sure that is actually a 2002 engine as the TAC and throttle body are different for the 2000-2002. The reason I say this is they are not as common as the 2003 up DBW systems. Your harness should have blue and red connectors on the PCM, if they are blue and green its not an 02. Just a heads up.
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Thanks I'll keep this in mind
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[ls1nova71]

That's an '02 so you're good there. You need the all plastic TAC.
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[tallic68]

[tallic68]

That's a problem I noticed when I got home. The harness had red and blue but PCM had blue and green. I asked about the pedal for drive by wire and the parts puller went out and gave me a pedal out of who knows what. And didn't give me a tac. But I can straighten it out when I pick up the tranny Monday.

Is there a way to tell if the tac and pedal are 02 or not. I've got the pedal. Unsure what year. Still waiting on the tac. Pretty positive the throttle body it 02. The engine seams pretty unmolested.

Anything else I should watch out for. Any info Is greatly appriciated.
Thanks.
Mike
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[ls1nova71]

An '02 TAC will be all plastic, not plastic with aluminum base. Pedals are metal not all plastic. Does your throttle body have 2 plugs, one on each side?
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[tallic68]

[tallic68]

I think it dose. On on throttle actuator( passenger side) and one in same area but drivers side.
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[tallic68]

Thanks all plastic got it.
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[tallic68]

So let me know if I'm wrong.

This is a return less system, so I'll need a corvette filter/regulator.

The truck exhaust manifolds won't work. I'll need to find some trailblazer or corvette to fit with the least amount of modification. Or swap headers from thorley ect.

I can use the adapter from my old ps pump to adapt the ps lines.

The 5.3 came with hoses for cross flow radiator so I'll most likely be able to use my stock radiator.

Th400 yoke won't fit the 4l60e. So I'll need to find a yoke.

The 4l60e is longer so I will need to have my drive shaft shortened.

I can use the stock trans crossmember, just move back and maybe drill a couple new mounting holes.

For general operation of trans and ECM I'll need a 4 connection break light switch(I don't have LED tail lights )


Is the connection for computer tuneing or scan modules (OBDII port?) in the engine harness? Or is that something extra I need to add?

With the 5.3's upgraded amps should I worrie about the stock wiring harness? Or should it be ok?



Am I missing anything?

Thanks for any suggestions or info.
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[ls1nova71]

Here ya go.

Originally Posted by tallic68

So let me know if I'm wrong.

This is a return less system, so I'll need a corvette filter/regulator.

Most 2002 and older are return style, are you sure there's only one line? Post a pic and we can tell you for sure.

The truck exhaust manifolds won't work. I'll need to find some trailblazer or corvette to fit with the least amount of modification. Or swap headers from thorley ect.

Truck manifolds will work, but you need to put the engine a little further back and do some trimming on the frame, TBSS fit with less trimming.

I can use the adapter from my old ps pump to adapt the ps lines.

Yes

The 5.3 came with hoses for cross flow radiator so I'll most likely be able to use my stock radiator.

Yes

Th400 yoke won't fit the 4l60e. So I'll need to find a yoke.

You'll need one from a 350 turbo, 700r4 or 4l60e

The 4l60e is longer so I will need to have my drive shaft shortened.

Maybe, mine actually ended up an inch too short, depends what the original engine/trans was.



I can use the stock trans crossmember, just move back and maybe drill a couple new mounting holes.

Yes

For general operation of trans and ECM I'll need a 4 connection break light switch(I don't have LED tail lights )

Yes


Is the connection for computer tuneing or scan modules (OBDII port?) in the engine harness? Or is that something extra I need to add?

No, it's in the under dash harness, you can get one from any OBDII car, pick-a-parts are full of them

With the 5.3's upgraded amps should I worrie about the stock wiring harness? Or should it be ok?

Should be OK



Am I missing anything?

Sounds like you did your homework, you've got the majority of it down

Thanks for any suggestions or info.
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[tallic68]

I actually had only a couple hours with it the other night because it was Africa hot in my garage and had to work the next day. I haven't been home since. I'll take a pic when I get home Monday and let you know.

Thanks a lot for the feed back. I've been searching here for months. There is like 30 new bookmarks in my favorites so I can reference back when I start.
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[tallic68]

Getting the tank in. Not as easy as the brothers article say it is but oh well. Picked up a filler neck and door from a 07 silverado. Once I get the bed back on I'll graft in the door behind the rear wheel in the bed side.

Got the call from current performance today about harness and computer. 3-4 day till its ready.

Still need a obd2 harness and a th350 yoke.
Got fans from a 99 .







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[tallic68]

Here is a pic of drivers rear of the engine. Confirming return style fuel system.




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[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by tallic68

Here is a pic of drivers rear of the engine. Confirming return style fuel system.

Yep, the fuel pressure regulator with the vacuum hose on it is a give away.

Where is your fuel pump mounted?

[tallic68]

This is my daily driver so I'm not mounting a pump or filter yet. Not gonna do the 5.3 till oct.
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[tallic68]

Today I got the filler door and plumbing in. The door was easeyer then the tank was.
Question- there is a ground wire that is on the 07' filler neck. Dose that need to be grounded, or can I snip it off?





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[BR3W CITY]

I'm pretty sure the ground is just a ground so static doesn't spark near the filler neck area, and is thusly just a CYA item for modern trucks, not needed. It may also be a ground from something like a carbon cannistor, which was deleted and so it also is not needed.

[tallic68]

The original tank did not have a vent. I'm guessing the new one dosen't need one either for now. But once I get the 5.3 in and the external fuel pump hooked up, will I need one then? I have 3/8 hard line from the tank along the frame to below the drivers door. I was planning on mounting the pump there and running braided line from the pump to the fuel rail with standard 3/8 rubber line as a return.
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[ls1nova71]

THe ground wire on the fuel filler is there because the filler tube is mounted in plastic, and the tube is hooked to a rubber hose, neither are good conductors of electricity, so they put a ground strap to the body static electricity from blowing things up while fueling. Rare, sure, but stranger things have happened. I would ground it if it were mine, would take about a minute to do, so why chance it?

[awhite4557]

Originally Posted by tallic68

The original tank did not have a vent. I'm guessing the new one dosen't need one either for now. But once I get the 5.3 in and the external fuel pump hooked up, will I need one then? I have 3/8 hard line from the tank along the frame to below the drivers door. I was planning on mounting the pump there and running braided line from the pump to the fuel rail with standard 3/8 rubber line as a return.
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I wouldn't use standard 3/8 hose for a return (or anywhere else in the fuel system). I was informed that the high volume of fuel that will be running through the fuel lines in this type of fuel system, will eat it up the inside of a regular fuel hose, causing it to come apart from the inside out, getting trash in your fuel system. Save yourself the trouble and hassle and run good steel braded or similar type fuel hoses where steel lines aren't used.

[kamikazekyle05]

Did you modify the inside of the bed for your new filler?

[tallic68]

Ya, had to notch out the bed a bit. I will make a cover for it later. It will bolt in so I have access later.
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[tallic68]

Trying to figure out gauges. Really like the auto meter old tyme white. Temp, oil,volt I've figured out. But scratching my head over fuel.

Can this gauge be adapted to the stock sending unit some how?
It's 230 ohm and I think mine is 90 ohm.

http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugede...earch&gid=3400