Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

laynrockers · 08-18-2012, 05:10 PM

have 07 LY5 + 4l60e going in my 66. I have not changed a pan on these engines before. I am assuming my pan will not fit as this motor is from an 07 Tahoe and is the truck application.

Do I need a new pick up?

New gasket?

Which pan fits with a truck that lays frame?

If there is anything i am missing please let me know and thanks again. Love this forum

Kris

paul66c10 · 08-18-2012, 08:33 PM

i believe you would need a camaro oil pan, pick up and screen. Thats what im using on my lm7 5.3 swap in my 1986gmc with a dropmember.

**scotts62** · 08-18-2012, 10:24 PM

I got my 5.3 in today and the pan is ok and laying as low as you but i raised the engine and dont have a dropmember either.

jtp67-72 · 08-19-2012, 11:46 PM

Here's the best buy out there with all the pieces u need....just ordered my 2nd one.....jim

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261032399132...84.m1423.l2649

laynrockers · 08-21-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jtp67-72

Here's the best buy out there with all the pieces u need....just ordered my 2nd one.....jim

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261032399132...84.m1423.l2649

Thanks-- I will add it to the list

68GMCCustom · 08-20-2012, 08:24 PM

wow...that seems spendy!

ls1nova71 · 08-20-2012, 10:52 PM

Judging from that first pic, you're going to need a 4th Gen Camaro pan, all others will hang below the crossmember a bit, unless you raise the engine.

jtp67-72 · 08-20-2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71

Judging from that first pic, you're going to need a 4th Gen Camaro pan, all others will hang below the crossmember a bit, unless you raise the engine.

that's what in the link above......

ls1nova71 · 08-20-2012, 11:16 PM

Guess I should have opened the link!

But anyway, that was just my opinion.

jtp67-72 · 08-20-2012, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls1nova71

Guess I should have opened the link!

But anyway, that was just my opinion.

And your right!! and with used pans bringing 150-175 bare....I think U can't beat these guys.....ls parts ain't cheap.....yet........jim

**LEEVON** · 08-21-2012, 10:01 AM

Don't cheap out like me and buy a used f-body pan for $100, then discover a crack, then take it to the shop to be welded, then get a call from the shop demanding $250, then tell the shop to go somewhere and do something intimate to themselves, then settling on $150 for said 5 minute repair, then having $250 into a used, welded oil pan.

Total investment:

-trip to guy's house, dig through his shed, almost get stung. 1 hour + $100
-degreasing, scraping, discovering crack, wife yells at you for making a mess. 1 hour.
-trip to the shop, drop-off pan. 30 minutes.
-another trip to the shop, pick-up pan and engage in not so friendly discussion. 30 minutes +$150
-dress-up repairs because they suck. 30 minutes.
-being pissed off, bad for my blood pressure.
-not sure if repair is going to hold.

So that's 3.5 hours away from my family on saturday morning for $50. Being cheap ain't easy!

GET THE NEW PAN KIT.

jtp67-72 · 08-21-2012, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEEVON

Don't cheap out like me and buy a used f-body pan for $100, then discover a crack, then take it to the shop to be welded, then get a call from the shop demanding $250, then tell the shop to go somewhere and do something intimate to themselves, then settling on $150 for said 5 minute repair, then having $250 into a used, welded oil pan.

Total investment:

-trip to guy's house, dig through his shed, almost get stung. 1 hour + $100
-degreasing, scraping, discovering crack, wife yells at you for making a mess. 1 hour.
-trip to the shop, drop-off pan. 30 minutes.
-another trip to the shop, pick-up pan and engage in not so friendly discussion. 30 minutes +$150
-dress-up repairs because they suck. 30 minutes.
-being pissed off, bad for my blood pressure.
-not sure if repair is going to hold.

So that's 3.5 hours away from my family on saturday morning for $50. Being cheap ain't easy!

GET THE NEW PAN KIT.

Man , I could not have written a better excuse for buying a new one!!.....lol......been down that road before....My favorite saying.....Get older get smarter!!.....lol....and more money....jim

laynrockers · 10-03-2012, 06:11 PM

Jim,

I just received my pan. Is the install straight forward as i think, anything i would need to know having this be my first time? Did you use a sealant around the gasket ? if so what type?

Thanks for the help

Kris

JNJchev77 · 10-03-2012, 06:38 PM

A few of the LS swap/rebuild books recommend a bead of sealant/silicone where the pan meets the block and the front and rear covers. I did this, as did many others I've talked to.

And make sure you lube the pick up tube o-ring when installing into the oil pump. Other than that pretty straightforward.

jtp67-72 · 10-04-2012, 01:00 AM

And make sure u "square it" at rear .....pan becomes part of the bellhousing mounting pattern...Google "installing Ls oil pan" and use their recommendations .....housing can crack if pan not aligned with block at rear......jim

JNJchev77 · 10-04-2012, 05:03 PM

^ yes, forgot that. Very important!

laynrockers · 10-04-2012, 06:03 PM

Thanks fellas, is this the article you were referring too?

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/New%20LS%20...eplacement.htm http://www.hotrodlane.cc/New%20LS%20...eplacement.htm

jtp67-72 · 10-04-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by laynrockers

Thanks fellas, is this the article you were referring too?

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/New%20LS%20...eplacement.htm http://www.hotrodlane.cc/New%20LS%20...eplacement.htm

That one will work..notice the RED lettering about the pan alignment..critical but fairly easy...jim

laynrockers · 10-07-2012, 02:19 PM

Guys ran into a problem on the install. See the pics.. the oil pickup does not fit with the tray. Did you guys get a new tray, cut or hammer this one to work, or just do away with it??

Thanks

Kris

jtp67-72 · 10-08-2012, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laynrockers

Guys ran into a problem on the install. See the pics.. the oil pickup does not fit with the tray. Did you guys get a new tray, cut or hammer this one to work, or just do away with it??

Thanks

Kris

Mine came with pump AND camaro windage tray .....is that stock tray??

66C06 · 10-15-2012, 01:09 PM

If you have the LS1 pan you need the ls1 windage tray and pickup tube. The LS1 pickup tube is a lower profile tube and will not fit with the truck style windage tray

laynrockers · 10-18-2012, 11:05 PM

Sorry for being the NOOB..

But I cant find the answer so hopefully this thread can be helpful to some in the future + me.

Got the ls1 windage tray. But it is shorter than the stock tray. and does not cover the entire crank area (see pic) do place it toward the front or rear of engine?

Thanks

jtp67-72 · 10-19-2012, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laynrockers

Sorry for being the NOOB..

But I cant find the answer so hopefully this thread can be helpful to some in the future + me.

Got the ls1 windage tray. But it is shorter than the stock tray. and does not cover the entire crank area (see pic) do place it toward the front or rear of engine?

Thanks

It's been a while since I installed mine but doesn't the pump pickup tube determine the placement of the tray?? Seems like that's what I found....sorry for the cobwebs!!!......jim

Wait I found it....study the pics here..........

http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/.../photo_13.html

66C06 · 10-19-2012, 09:01 PM

it's installed correctly....it should be labled front/rear and it goes in the bolts closest to the flexplate like you have it. Good luck on the rest of your build! I can't wait to start mine...wet-sump ls7...

laynrockers · 10-19-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 66C06

it's installed correctly....it should be labled front/rear and it goes in the bolts closest to the flexplate like you have it. Good luck on the rest of your build! I can't wait to start mine...wet-sump ls7...

Can't wait make sure to start a thread. I must say i learn something from every thread!

08-18-2012, 05:10 PM	#1
laynrockers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: las vegas nevada Posts: 218	Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! have 07 LY5 + 4l60e going in my 66. I have not changed a pan on these engines before. I am assuming my pan will not fit as this motor is from an 07 Tahoe and is the truck application. Do I need a new pick up? New gasket? Which pan fits with a truck that lays frame? If there is anything i am missing please let me know and thanks again. Love this forum Kris Attached Images

08-18-2012, 08:33 PM	#2
paul66c10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chesapeake, va Posts: 89	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! i believe you would need a camaro oil pan, pick up and screen. Thats what im using on my lm7 5.3 swap in my 1986gmc with a dropmember. __________________ 1986 gmc shortbed (right now its rough) porterbuilt dropmember front mmw flat plate uppers and lowers, soon to have porterbuilt rear dropmember, painted cherry red rallies, flat green primer in the works with a gloss white roof, 92 civic dx daily beater, 01 z06 new toy

08-18-2012, 10:24 PM	#3
scotts62 One day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tuttle, Ok Posts: 9,243	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! I got my 5.3 in today and the pan is ok and laying as low as you but i raised the engine and dont have a dropmember either. __________________ Scott 93 crew cab build Project 62

08-19-2012, 11:46 PM	#4
jtp67-72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: dequincy la. Posts: 1,465	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Here's the best buy out there with all the pieces u need....just ordered my 2nd one.....jim http://www.ebay.com/itm/261032399132...84.m1423.l2649 __________________ Build thread at http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=475791

08-20-2012, 08:24 PM	#6
68GMCCustom Truck and auto performance nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: McKinney,Texas Posts: 3,848	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! wow...that seems spendy! __________________ Kurt - '68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy '72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close '06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD '18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver '95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto... my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken

08-20-2012, 10:52 PM	#7
ls1nova71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Independence Mo Posts: 4,119	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Judging from that first pic, you're going to need a 4th Gen Camaro pan, all others will hang below the crossmember a bit, unless you raise the engine. __________________ My '72 short bed build. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...6-0-4l80e.html 5.3 swap into my RUSTY '71 C10 http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...71-c-10-a.html

08-20-2012, 11:16 PM	#9
ls1nova71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Independence Mo Posts: 4,119	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Guess I should have opened the link! But anyway, that was just my opinion. __________________ My '72 short bed build. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...6-0-4l80e.html 5.3 swap into my RUSTY '71 C10 http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...71-c-10-a.html

08-21-2012, 10:01 AM	#11
LEEVON Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 4,893	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Don't cheap out like me and buy a used f-body pan for $100, then discover a crack, then take it to the shop to be welded, then get a call from the shop demanding $250, then tell the shop to go somewhere and do something intimate to themselves, then settling on $150 for said 5 minute repair, then having $250 into a used, welded oil pan. Total investment: -trip to guy's house, dig through his shed, almost get stung. 1 hour + $100 -degreasing, scraping, discovering crack, wife yells at you for making a mess. 1 hour. -trip to the shop, drop-off pan. 30 minutes. -another trip to the shop, pick-up pan and engage in not so friendly discussion. 30 minutes +$150 -dress-up repairs because they suck. 30 minutes. -being pissed off, bad for my blood pressure. -not sure if repair is going to hold. So that's 3.5 hours away from my family on saturday morning for $50. Being cheap ain't easy! GET THE NEW PAN KIT. __________________ '86 GMC C30 Crew ~ '86 C20 Crew ~ '79 K15 Sierra Grande ~ '76 Blazer 2wd ~ '74K10 ~ '71 Cheyenne swb ~'50 3100 bagged ~ '80 Wife ~ Late model kids Last edited by LEEVON; 08-21-2012 at 10:12 AM.

10-03-2012, 06:11 PM	#13
laynrockers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: las vegas nevada Posts: 218	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Jim, I just received my pan. Is the install straight forward as i think, anything i would need to know having this be my first time? Did you use a sealant around the gasket ? if so what type? Thanks for the help Kris

10-03-2012, 06:38 PM	#14
JNJchev77 Registered Cruiser Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 918	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! A few of the LS swap/rebuild books recommend a bead of sealant/silicone where the pan meets the block and the front and rear covers. I did this, as did many others I've talked to. And make sure you lube the pick up tube o-ring when installing into the oil pump. Other than that pretty straightforward. __________________ 77' Chevy SB Dropmembered Front and Rear 5.3/4l60e combo

10-04-2012, 01:00 AM	#15
jtp67-72 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: dequincy la. Posts: 1,465	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! And make sure u "square it" at rear .....pan becomes part of the bellhousing mounting pattern...Google "installing Ls oil pan" and use their recommendations .....housing can crack if pan not aligned with block at rear......jim __________________ Build thread at http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=475791

10-04-2012, 05:03 PM	#16
JNJchev77 Registered Cruiser Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 918	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! ^ yes, forgot that. Very important! __________________ 77' Chevy SB Dropmembered Front and Rear 5.3/4l60e combo

10-04-2012, 06:03 PM	#17
laynrockers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: las vegas nevada Posts: 218	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Thanks fellas, is this the article you were referring too? http://www.hotrodlane.cc/New%20LS%20...eplacement.htm http://www.hotrodlane.cc/New%20LS%20...eplacement.htm Last edited by laynrockers; 10-04-2012 at 06:09 PM.

10-07-2012, 02:19 PM	#19
laynrockers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: las vegas nevada Posts: 218	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Guys ran into a problem on the install. See the pics.. the oil pickup does not fit with the tray. Did you guys get a new tray, cut or hammer this one to work, or just do away with it?? Thanks Kris Attached Images

10-15-2012, 01:09 PM	#21
66C06 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Rockwall, Tx Posts: 151	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! If you have the LS1 pan you need the ls1 windage tray and pickup tube. The LS1 pickup tube is a lower profile tube and will not fit with the truck style windage tray



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10-18-2012, 11:05 PM	#22
laynrockers Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: las vegas nevada Posts: 218	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! Sorry for being the NOOB.. But I cant find the answer so hopefully this thread can be helpful to some in the future + me. Got the ls1 windage tray. But it is shorter than the stock tray. and does not cover the entire crank area (see pic) do place it toward the front or rear of engine? Thanks Attached Images

10-19-2012, 09:01 PM	#24
66C06 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Rockwall, Tx Posts: 151	Re: Full porterbuilt 66 with LY5.. Need info on changing oil pan !! it's installed correctly....it should be labled front/rear and it goes in the bolts closest to the flexplate like you have it. Good luck on the rest of your build! I can't wait to start mine...wet-sump ls7...

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