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wsurf4me · 01-20-2013, 01:22 PM

My sons 84 C10 wouldn't start yesterday. After a little troubleshooting we found that the starter is fine and it's the tilt column. If you push the tilt all the way down the starter turns over and it starts right up, any other tilt position and the starter does nothing. I've done some searching online without much success on this problem, anyone here seen this before? At this point I'm not sure how the ignition switch integrates with the tilt, is it mechanical or do I just have a loose electrical connection and tilting all the way down makes the connection? Any insight would be most welcome - thanks in advance.

wsurf4me · 01-20-2013, 02:05 PM

So after some more searching I've found this -
http://imageshack.us/a/img370/6760/actuatorrackkv3.jpg

Think the actuator rod or rack could be messed up?

**old Rusty C10** · 01-20-2013, 02:13 PM

yes also the ignition switch on the column base could be worn

wsurf4me · 01-20-2013, 03:08 PM

Well it just got worse, looks like something let go the key now turns freely and doesn't actuate anything. Also can't move it out of park, I assume something with the key switch assembly broke, anyone have a link to more info? exploded diagram?

zirk · 01-20-2013, 03:31 PM

Mine does a similar thing. Whenever completely up it doesn't start, but any other position and it works, I just kind of use it as theft proof

wsurf4me · 01-20-2013, 05:59 PM

I've figured out that I can start it by moving the ignition actuator rod with a pair of pliers. The key still locks the steering wheel but nothing else, so between the two I can still start and drive it. I'm trying to find details on how the actuator rod connects to the key switch but haven't had any luck. Can anyone provide details?

motornut · 01-22-2013, 11:36 AM

where the cylinder sits in, has a bit of gear teeth
they run back and forth on a small bit of gears that sits in the coloum
i'd bet one of those gears is gone

wsurf4me · 01-23-2013, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motornut

where the cylinder sits in, has a bit of gear teeth
they run back and forth on a small bit of gears that sits in the coloum
i'd bet one of those gears is gone

That's exactly what happened, $10 part, 2 hours labor.

D13 · 01-24-2013, 11:28 AM

Where did you get the part? it's tim to perform that bit of surgury on mine...

GSP7 · 07-06-2018, 02:12 AM

What happened with this thread ? I need some help .

Go here
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=766925

This is a 81 K20 silverado and a tilt column

I found this picture . I did not put that red arrow but seems maybe something around there broke?

P.S. Matter a fact shining a flashlight into the tilt part of my column, I can ses loose broke piece. I thing that part at the red arrow broke , a piece is broke off , maybe that loop part?

Can I get these parts anywhere?

70GMCer · 07-06-2018, 06:55 AM

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01-20-2013, 01:22 PM	#1
wsurf4me Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 120	Tilt wheel ignition problems My sons 84 C10 wouldn't start yesterday. After a little troubleshooting we found that the starter is fine and it's the tilt column. If you push the tilt all the way down the starter turns over and it starts right up, any other tilt position and the starter does nothing. I've done some searching online without much success on this problem, anyone here seen this before? At this point I'm not sure how the ignition switch integrates with the tilt, is it mechanical or do I just have a loose electrical connection and tilting all the way down makes the connection? Any insight would be most welcome - thanks in advance.

01-20-2013, 02:05 PM	#2
wsurf4me Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 120	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems So after some more searching I've found this - http://imageshack.us/a/img370/6760/actuatorrackkv3.jpg Think the actuator rod or rack could be messed up?

01-20-2013, 02:13 PM	#3
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,312	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems yes also the ignition switch on the column base could be worn __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

01-20-2013, 03:08 PM	#4
wsurf4me Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 120	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems Well it just got worse, looks like something let go the key now turns freely and doesn't actuate anything. Also can't move it out of park, I assume something with the key switch assembly broke, anyone have a link to more info? exploded diagram?

01-20-2013, 03:31 PM	#5
zirk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 173	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems Mine does a similar thing. Whenever completely up it doesn't start, but any other position and it works, I just kind of use it as theft proof __________________ Chevy runs in my blood

01-20-2013, 05:59 PM	#6
wsurf4me Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 120	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems I've figured out that I can start it by moving the ignition actuator rod with a pair of pliers. The key still locks the steering wheel but nothing else, so between the two I can still start and drive it. I'm trying to find details on how the actuator rod connects to the key switch but haven't had any luck. Can anyone provide details?

01-22-2013, 11:36 AM	#7
motornut 78K & 79C Jimmys Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ottawa Ont CANADA Posts: 7,901	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems where the cylinder sits in, has a bit of gear teeth they run back and forth on a small bit of gears that sits in the coloum i'd bet one of those gears is gone Attached Images __________________ John 1978 GMCJimmy4X4-350/203 1979 GMCJimmy4X2-305/350

01-24-2013, 11:28 AM	#9
D13 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis MI Posts: 1,851	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems Where did you get the part? it's tim to perform that bit of surgury on mine... __________________ 1987 2 ton 1982 250/TH350 beater in progress Dad's 1981 3/4 L6 3 on tree posi and no options, awaiting restoration or scrapping Plus a mess o' tractors

07-06-2018, 02:12 AM	#10
GSP7 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 652	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems What happened with this thread ? I need some help . Go here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=766925 This is a 81 K20 silverado and a tilt column I found this picture . I did not put that red arrow but seems maybe something around there broke? P.S. Matter a fact shining a flashlight into the tilt part of my column, I can ses loose broke piece. I thing that part at the red arrow broke , a piece is broke off , maybe that loop part? Can I get these parts anywhere? __________________ '81 K20 Silverado , '99 Dodge Cummins 4x4, '05 Dodge Cummins 4x4, Pinstriping-Lettering-Specialty Painting

07-06-2018, 06:55 AM	#11
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: Tilt wheel ignition problems https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ADKKWWSNTS2OR __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang



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