Double Flange tool

[JointTech]

I got a double flange set from Amazon. It was such a POS it broke before I could get one flange done. You had to crank the flange holder so tight it would deform the pipe enough you couldnt get the little adapter back out. But then I snapped off one of the wingnuts that clamps it. So that junk is going back to Amazon.

Then I went to pep boys and got whatever they had in the tool section. It uses a half inch socket for the clamp and the plunger instead of the dumb wing nuts.

Still you have to crank it down so hard it mashes up the pipe and the flange it creates isnt impressive.

So does anybody know of a good double flange tool? Or am I just doing it wrong? mine arent nearly as clean as the one on the stuff you buy.

Im working with some 3/8 fuel line.

[ERASER5]

Do you mean double FLARE tool? Yes there are very good ones out there. Impperiial is a very good brand. KD has a nice set. Ridgid make some extreamly good and expensive sets.

You are not trying to double flare stainless are you? If so, you will fail. As Scotty would say, "She doesn't have the power Captain!" You need hydraulic or a looong pull handle (Eastwood)to double flare stainless.

[JointTech]

lol yea flare. I was pretty tired after 8 hourrs of failure and driving to different stores looking for a compression fitting setup after I failed miserably.

Im thinking of getting the Rigid 345DL.

Im doing regualr steel line from the parts store.

[cdowns]

i have a very old RIGID flaring tool and was expesive way back 40years ago when i bought it but still works great today// i think i bought it at a plumbing and heating supply store

[ERASER5]

You might want to look at Autozone's nickle/copper/steel alloy line. It bends like butter and does not rust.

[JointTech]

Originally Posted by ERASER5

You might want to look at Autozone's nickle/copper/steel alloy line. It bends like butter and does not rust.

I saw that stuff. it comes in a coil. It seemed like it would kink really easy and im not very coordinated

Probably be much gentler on the cheap flare tool

[lolife99]

I've had a KD double flaring tool for over 30 years.
Still works great.

[BR3W CITY]

^doesn't that stuff have MUCH lower pressure ratings than regular line? Same goes for the Aluminum type lines, I assume they are only good for carb'd fuel applications, as high pressure fuel, brake, steering, or trans would result in failure.

[ERASER5]

The ni-co tube is brake line rated. It is not "weak." Tube that is rated for brake line will be on light duty running fuel. Brakes run about 1200 psig. So the tubing must have a burst pressure rating at about 2400 psig.

There is a simple trick to unrolling tubing. Hold the coil and straighten out just enough to touch the floor. Step on the end while pushing the coil down toward the floor, as you unroll it. Keep stepping heel to toe until you have walked out the length you want. You will be amazed at how straight it come out.

[ray_mcavoy]

Originally Posted by ERASER5

The ni-co tube is brake line rated. It is not "weak.

I agree. According to http://www.agscompany.com/faq/11 the 3/8" size is rated at 1700 PSI working pressure and 7000 PSI burst. The smaller 3/16" and 1/4" brake line sizes are rated even higher.

Originally Posted by JointTech

It seemed like it would kink really easy

I've actually found that it's easier to bend without kinking than steel line. Not totally kink-proof though so I'd still recommend using a tubing bender ... especially on the larger diameter tubing and/or when making fairly tight bends.

[motornut]

I think mines a unitool
had it for years but have had the "crank down" lean over
i just release and move the feet over
you don't mention your procedure
some people think it's one "crank down,but it's two"
mine i stick the line out the thickness of the first level of the flair tip
crank down the tip flush,remove tip,and recrank with no flair tip just the pointed tip

[JointTech]

well i went ahead and ordered the Ridgid 83037 Model 458R Ratchet Flaring Tool
$115
hopefully it works easy enough I can use it upside down under the truck on some line I dont want to remove.