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06-18-2013, 08:35 PM | #1 |
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Hot Brakes
Recently converted my 69 C10 P/U to front disk brakes. The system seemed OK at first but today the rotors got very hot...twice.
Here is a pic of the master cylinder/prop valve and power booster setup. The master cylinder is a 1971 version and the prop valve is a MBM-PV2-GM Disc/Drum Proportioning Valve. It has 2 lines in the front for each front wheel and one slightly larger line in the rear for the rear drum shoes. After the 2nd test drive I measured the rotor temp with a non-contact Ir thermometer and it showed 475 degrees for the left front and 460 degrees for the right front. I stuck a large screwdriver into one of the vents on the ventilated disc rotor and attempted to turn the rotor but no dice...stuck hard. I then loosened the bleed valve on that calipher ...fluid squirted out and then the rotor could be turned. So why is the fluid pressure on the rotor not being released? I even took the master cylinder loose after the first over-heating event and and shortened the "plunge rod". The only thing that accomplished was to change the pedal position where the brake pressure is felt. The brake pedal gets very hard. Any help on this problem is appreciated. Jim |
06-18-2013, 10:34 PM | #2 |
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Re: Hot Brakes
Something is not letting the MC piston go back all the way. Either the rod between the booster & MC or the stop on the pedaln arm.
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06-19-2013, 07:21 AM | #3 |
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Re: Hot Brakes
i wood git rid of rubba gaslines b4 truck burns to da ground
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06-19-2013, 07:34 AM | #4 |
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Re: Hot Brakes
Is the cylinder in the MC sticking? After you apply the brake and there is pressure applied to the front calipers, unbolt the master from the booster and look to see if the cylinder is stuck. You may have to try a new master cylinder.
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06-19-2013, 08:31 AM | #5 |
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Re: Hot Brakes
c downs is right...old rubber hoses swell shut internally...your foot has enough pressure to force fluid thru the lines but it can't return
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06-19-2013, 09:35 AM | #6 |
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Re: Hot Brakes
Did you replace the front rubber brake lines? They swell up internally and allow fluid under pressure to go to the brakes but not return to the master cylinder.
Also, check the booster to master cylinder push rod to insure it's adjusted for proper clearance, lubricate all the sliding surfaces of the disc pad mounting. If all else fails, it may be the seal on the piston itself not operating properly to retract the piston. Clearances are very minimal.
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