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07-17-2013, 08:16 PM | #1 |
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Fuel Filter Empty in the morning!
This has happened 4 times since I've owned the truck. Approx 3 months. My Driveway angles downwards into my garage. So the truck is parked on a slant most times. The Truck turns over very strong and cranks and cranks and cranks. When I pop open the hood the clear fuel filter is empty. Even tho I crank it several times, the fuel doesn't seem to make it to the filter. I use my generic pump and connect it to the filter. A few pumps and the fuel gets to the filter. Reconnect and fires right up. Don't see the issue for a few weeks.
Truck Info - GM 350(Old), New Carb, Intake, New Fuel Lines-Filter, New Behind Seat non-efi Fuel Tank. No obvious fuel leaks in the line that I can find. I'm going to change the fuel pump out because it's the only item left in the system. Does the mechanical fuel pump have a valve that would maintain fuel pressure when the engine is not running? If so, should I be able to suck the fuel thru it without cranking the engine. Any input would be awesome. If the new fuel pump solves it, I will eventually post a follow-up.
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07-17-2013, 08:35 PM | #2 |
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Re: Fuel Filter Empty in the morning!
Change the pump. The pump has a check valve in it that is apparently bad. One way to test this is to loosen the gas cap at night for a while. What is happening is during the day the tank pressurizes due to heat. At night it cools and the fuel contracts, thus sucking the line dry.
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07-17-2013, 09:33 PM | #3 |
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Re: Fuel Filter Empty in the morning!
Don't use glass fuel filters. They're a fire hazard.
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07-17-2013, 09:58 PM | #4 |
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Re: Fuel Filter Empty in the morning!
I might be oversimplifying this, but have you tried giving the gas pedal a pump or two before turning the key? It makes a big difference for me when I do that.
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07-17-2013, 10:33 PM | #5 |
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Re: Fuel Filter Empty in the morning!
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You say you have a new carb but don't say what it is. If it is a quadrajet is there a filter in the carb inlet? They also have a check valve in them that keeps the fuel from draining back to the tank. LockDoc
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07-17-2013, 10:40 PM | #6 |
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Re: Fuel Filter Empty in the morning!
If he has a Quadra-bog chances are the primary metering wells are leaking down over night.
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07-17-2013, 11:35 PM | #7 |
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Re: Fuel Filter Empty in the morning!
Ya I def pump the gas a couple times lol.
The Carb is an Edelbrock 1405-600cfm. It's a plastic fuel filter from Orielly. I will try a new pump this weekend and see if that cures it. I work in maintenance for an airbag manufacturing company, and intermittent issues can suck sometimes. As long as I can see fuel in the filter it starts in a half crank every time. Thanks for everyone's input.
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