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03-04-2014, 05:27 PM | #1 |
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abs goes on on dry pavement
Hi, The abs brakes on my 03 silverado 1500 2wd go on even when I stop slowly on dry pavement. I saw on the 90's truck forum that rust can build up behind the sensor and cause a problem, does that happen on these trucks too. Also an unrelated problem, when I put my right turn signal on the flashers come on. I was thinking shorted out wire or bad connection in the column? Any help is always appreciated.
Thanks, Marty
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03-04-2014, 09:01 PM | #2 |
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Re: abs goes on on dry pavement
Happens on my suburban from time to time
Grease from sealed wheel bearing is splattering on the face of sensor and getting into the teeth inside the bearing... All I do is remove sensor. Clean face. Then look at teeth and with mini screw driver remove any grease between the teeth That's for my front. No problems with rears. I pull codes and or look at data on my scanner to determine the culprit. I'm not saying this is your problem. It's just one of many solutions Your signal flashers could be a bad bulb turn signal. Mine does that whenever a bulb goes bad. Your mileage may very
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03-04-2014, 10:23 PM | #3 |
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Re: abs goes on on dry pavement
Thanks, I'll give those a check.
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03-05-2014, 10:37 AM | #4 |
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Re: abs goes on on dry pavement
Rust will form on the bearing and push the sensor away from the reluctor ring. Remove the sensor from the bearing assembly. I get a small cloth rag and stick it in the hole. Then I use a mini grinder with a skotch brite and smooth it out. Then reinstall everything.
There is a TSB on this The bulletin number is: 03-05-25-007D You can try and google it |
03-05-2014, 10:38 AM | #5 |
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Re: abs goes on on dry pavement
Bulletin No.: 03-05-25-007D
Date: May 01, 2009 Subject: Antilock Brake (ABS) Activation At Low Speeds (Clean Wheel Speed Sensor Mounting Surface) Models: 2002-2006 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade EXT 2003-2006 Cadillac Escalade ESV 1999-2006 Chevrolet Silverado 2001-2006 Chevrolet Suburban, Tahoe 2002-2006 Chevrolet Avalanche 2003-2006 Chevrolet Express 2007 Chevrolet Silverado Classic 1999-2006 GMC Sierra 2001-2006 GMC Yukon, Yukon Denali, Yukon XL, Yukon Denali XL 2003-2006 GMC Savana 2007 GMC Sierra Classic 2003-2006 HUMMER H2 Supercede:This bulletin is being revised to add the 2007 Silverado/Sierra Classic models. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 03-05-25-007C (Section 05 - Brakes). Condition Some customers may comment on ABS activation at low speeds, usually below 8 km/h (5 mph). Upon investigation, the technician will find no DTCs set. Cause The cause of this condition may be an increased air gap between the wheel speed sensor and the hub reluctor ring due to rust and debris built up on the sensor mounting surface. Correction Measure AC voltage and clean the wheel speed sensor mounting surfaces. 1. Raise and support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle in the General Information sub-section of the Service Manual. 2. Disconnect both the front wheel speed sensor connectors at the frame and harness. 3. Place a Digital Volt Meter (DVM) across the terminals of each wheel speed sensor connector. 4. Rotate the wheel clockwise approximately one revolution per second. The minimum reading should be at least 350 ACmV's. If the reading is less than 350 ACmV's, remove the wheel speed sensor. Refer to the applicable Wheel Speed Sensor Replacement procedure in the ABS sub-section of the Service Manual. 5. Plug the wheel speed sensor bore in order to prevent debris from falling into the hub during service. 6. Clean the wheel speed sensor mounting surface using a wire brush, sand paper, emery cloth, scotch brite, or other suitable material. Be sure to thoroughly clean the wheel speed sensor surface. There should be no rust or corrosion. 7. Check the sensor head to determine if it has been warped/distorted due to the corrosion build up or other causes. Check the mounting surface on the sensor head for flatness by placing it on the edge of a metal machinists scale or other suitable straight edge to measure the flatness. Check the sensor for flatness in multiple (minimum 3) positions/directions. If the sensor head is distorted, replace the sensor. 8. Apply (spray) two thin coats of the specified rust penetrating lubricant (corrosion inhibitor) to the complete sensor mounting surface on the bearing hub. Allow to dry for 3-5 minutes between coats. Use ONLY Rust Penetrating Lubricant, P/N 89022217 (in Canada, P/N 89022218). 9. When the corrosion inhibitor is dry to the touch (about 10 minutes), apply a thin layer of bearing grease to the hub surface and sensor O-ring prior to sensor installation. Use ONLY Wheel Bearing Lubricant, P/N 01051344 (in Canada, P/N 993037). 10. Install either the original sensor or a new one in the hub. Ensure that the sensor is seated flush against the hub. Refer to the applicable Wheel Speed Sensor Replacement procedure in the ABS sub-section of the Service Manual. 11. Place the DVM across the sensor terminals and recheck the voltage while rotating the wheel. The voltage should now read at least 350 ACmV's. |
03-05-2014, 07:42 PM | #6 |
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Re: abs goes on on dry pavement
Thanks, turns out the passenger wheel bearing hub assembly was bad, and the new one came with a sensor, so now I just have to clean the drivers side.
Thanks, Marty
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