Solved the dreaded oil filter leak

[xaircav]

I put a Fram spin on filter conversion on my '62 283 block and it always leaked even with new O rings. I put RTV around the inside of the O ring, installed the O ring then ran a bead around the outside of the O ring, installed the adapter and gave it 2 hours to cure. No leaks.

[mr48chev]

I take it you have the bypass valve under the adapter? I've seen one or two engines that had those adapters that who ever installed them left the bypass valve out and cracked the adapter around the bolts.

[xaircav]

Originally Posted by mr48chev

I take it you have the bypass valve under the adapter? I've seen one or two engines that had those adapters that who ever installed them left the bypass valve out and cracked the adapter around the bolts.

This style adapter is a two piece that does not need the factory bypass. Pretty sure it was a Fram HP-1

[Speedbumpauto]

Trans Dapt makes a #1024 adapter that, IMO, is far better than that Fram thing. The only downside for you purists is it takes a Ford filter like a PH-8 or better, 51515.

[xaircav]

Originally Posted by Speedbumpauto

Trans Dapt makes a #1024 adapter that, IMO, is far better than that Fram thing. The only downside for you purists is it takes a Ford filter like a PH-8 or better, 51515.

The Fram is similar to the Trans Dapt. It also takes a Fram PH-8. I run a Wix 51515. I have the Wix adapter and was going to install it if the RTV didn't work. The Wix 24061 requires the factory bypass be used.

[mr48chev]

Most every filter adapter along with most remote filter setups I have seen takes the Ph-8 or Ford style filter. Some of the newer ones may use a Chevy style filter though. I've also had a real fight keeping them from leaking.

[Russell Ashley]

I used Fram PH-8's in Mopars for years so I don't consider it to be a brand-specific item.

[Speedbumpauto]

Maybe the Fram adapter has changed, but I just never trusted that strange felt type gasket. I used the Transdapt on a 348 I did for a Model A but didn't use the pal nut for the thread insert. Instead I used(gently) an internal pipe wrench type adapter and some red Loctite and screwed the insert into the aluminum with a small amount of torque and Loctite. Made for the perfect adapter and with the O rings, zero leaks. I forgot the 51515 was also a fit for Mopar stuff.

[mr48chev]

Originally Posted by Russell Ashley

I used Fram PH-8's in Mopars for years so I don't consider it to be a brand-specific item.

Yep they and the 51515's fit a lot of applications other than Ford. I think they even fit one of the tractors I serviced on the dairy that I worked on.

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by xaircav

I put a Fram spin on filter conversion on my '62 283 block....

Not to hijack but can anyone tell me what year the 283 started having the filter boss cast in?

My 283 DOES have it. I've not seen the numbers on the back of my block (where are they exactly?) so I don't know what year/application it was originally for, but I'd like to find out. Any OTHER location on the block with more accessible I.D. numbers?

[_Ogre]

all 283 sbc had oil filters, the '55 265 was the only sbc without an oil filter cast into the block

[mr48chev]

Originally Posted by _Ogre

all 283 sbc had oil filters, the '55 265 was the only sbc without an oil filter cast into the block

That isn't the subject of the thread. The subject of the thread is his having the spin on filter adapter leak (he took the canister filter off as most of us do) and what he did to keep it from leaking. We proceeded in a discussion as to which aftermarket filter adapter worked the best and if any used a later model Chevy style filter rather than the Ph-8A style filter that most adapters use.

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by mr48chev

That isn't the subject of the thread. The subject of the thread is his having the spin on filter adapter leak (he took the canister filter off as most of us do) and what he did to keep it from leaking. We proceeded in a discussion as to which aftermarket filter adapter worked the best and if any used a later model Chevy style filter rather than the Ph-8A style filter that most adapters use.

Thanks Mr. Self-Appointed Moderator but I asked a related question since he brought up "62 283 SBC's".

EDIT: Came on a little strong there, it's the end of a frustrating work week. Apologies.
Still, how about you chill out a bit on correcting others?

[Dan in Pasadena]

Hmmm, I thought so too but didn't want to, "...speak and remove all doubt" lol

So what of xaircav's "62 283"? He doesn't have what he THINKS he has? It's a 265?

[mr48chev]

I didn't mean to play moderator (I'm not one never will be one) but it should serve as a reminder that we all need to read the complete thread before throwing out answers. and I should have left it as it was because he wasn't throwing out bad info.

I will continue to comment when someone throws out bad information, hair brained back woods fixes or makes suggestions that they view as a joke but may not be taken as a joke by one of our beginner truckers with limited knowledge and skill. I don't want to see a guy burn his truck to the ground because someone told him in jest to use a cutting torch to take the oil filter off and I don't want to see someone hurt with some dangerous method of doing something.

You also see edits on a great number of my posts because quite often I find that the answer I gave doesn't jive with the original question after I read the whole thread and I need to change it to make it right.

And yes sir, I have been in a rather cranky mood lately and I'll try to correct that and stay out of the Old school teacher mode.

[1project2many]

I have an old GM / Delco filter adapter on my 327 Block which uses the same spin on filter as the later GM V8's. You know, I don't even remember where I dug it up. But I switched over after about two years of running the canister filter when I'd had enough of cleaning the filter can. Doesn't Wix offer an adapter that uses the GM filter?

IMO, however, if you have to use silicone to prevent the adapter from leaking then you should ditch the adapter and get one that works correctly. Silicone that gets loose in an oil galley often results in failed parts.

[_Ogre]

Originally Posted by 1project2many

IMO, however, if you have to use silicone to prevent the adapter from leaking then you should ditch the adapter and get one that works correctly. Silicone that gets loose in an oil galley often results in failed parts.

agreed here too.
most problems with oil filter adapters is removing the old canister gasket before installing the adapter.
pulling the old gasket out does not guarantee there isn't another gasket in there.
i'd double or triple check that first, drive an ice pick in there with a hammer
either you find a gasket or bend the ice pic

[_Ogre]

someone forget to take their prozac today?

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by _Ogre

someone forget to take their prozac today?

Yeah, apparently mr48chev AND me!

[xaircav]

Wow guys, let me put on my striped shirt and whistle.

Block is a 58-62 283 casting#3756519

The RTV was a last ditch effort before I spent $40 on a bypass valve and installed the Wix adapter.

I gave the RTV a long cure time before installing the filter and running the engine and the silicone is out of the oil flow path

I'm 100% sure there is no old canister gasket up there. It would not have survived the hot tank during the rebuild.

[mr48chev]

Originally Posted by lDan in Pasadena

Yeah, apparently mr48chev AND me!

And on a Friday and my Friday too.

Dealing with an airline passenger who looked me straight in the eye 30 minutes before and stated that the 1.75 liter bottle of Seagrams 7 was not a liquid but whiskey when I told him that it was a container of liquid that was over 3.4 ounces and could not be carried into the secure area of the airport. That is how my day went up to that point. I've also had a woman tell me that a fifth of wine wasn't a liquid either but wine. The regular passenger standing next to her lost it on that one.