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schpeen · 08-06-2014, 10:49 AM

I have a 327 in my 65 c10 not the original motor to the truck

I have the alternator on the passenger side and a short water pump

my alternator brackets broke so to my surprise everyone I called to replace the bracket said none show the passenger side mount with the short water pump. After ordering a couple brackets that didn't fit I had the broken brackets welded and I cleaned them up as best I could but they aren't as straight as I'd like them to be.

Anyone know what car info I can give at the auto parts store so I can replace the brackets with new ones?

**PGSigns** · 08-06-2014, 01:13 PM

Can you post a picture of what you have?
Jimmy

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGSigns

Can you post a picture of what you have?
Jimmy

not the best pic but gives you an idea

cg285 · 08-06-2014, 02:07 PM

looks like the long pump to me.

markeb01 · 08-06-2014, 01:23 PM

These may be more than you want to spend, but Alan Grove makes a passenger side alternator bracket for the short water pump. Part number 213r SC - Alt.

http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/i...tions/213R.pdf

http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/S...Short_Pump.htm

LVPhotos · 08-06-2014, 02:03 PM

Looks like 73 up.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/865w/0181.jpg

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LVPhotos

Looks like 73 up.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/865w/0181.jpg

I believe this is exactly what I am looking for!!!

you de man I am going to place an order right now. thank you

markeb01 · 08-06-2014, 02:04 PM

That's the same bracket I had on mine many years ago. I picked it up in a junkyard, but had no idea what car it was attached to. It might have been a Monte Carlo or Chevelle, Nova, etc. Sadly it's long gone or I'd send it to you:

LVPhotos · 08-06-2014, 02:08 PM

Looks like 73 u

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markeb01 · 08-06-2014, 02:08 PM

Oops. Yes mine was a long pump. Perhaps the broken one is on a long pump as well, or perhaps the same bracket fits on either one?

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markeb01

Oops. Yes mine was a long pump. Perhaps the broken one is on a long pump as well.

no it's the short pump on mine
I ordered the bracket from summit and the mount for the bolt where it mounts to the front of the water pump was stretched a few inches forward for the long pump.

when I called them they said all short pumps are driver side mounted and long pumps were passenger side mount so when I explained I had passenger side with the short pump they said, "HUH how about that?...sorry"

cg285 · 08-06-2014, 02:19 PM

i don't believe you are going to find a short pump with the heater outlet at the top and a boss for the bracket

LVPhotos · 08-06-2014, 02:09 PM

Looks like 73 u

p.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/full.aspx?Page=181

**PGSigns** · 08-06-2014, 02:47 PM

That lmc part looks like a long pump bracket. I did not think that the alternator would fit up there with a short pump. Sure would like to see a pic of your setup from the drivers side to show your pump and the bracket.
Jimmy

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGSigns

That lmc part looks like a long pump bracket. I did not think that the alternator would fit up there with a short pump. Sure would like to see a pic of your setup from the drivers side to show your pump and the bracket.
Jimmy

you are correct I just cancelled my order, I was so excited! I guess I could go to a long pump if I need to, I just hate spending money on this set up when I know there is an LSX with my name on it somewhere waiting to come forward.

LVPhotos · 08-06-2014, 04:50 PM

Speedway motors is where I got mine.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Search...ackets%20chevy

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 05:13 PM

i got home from work and took a few pics from up under her dress while she was sleeping

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 05:20 PM

one more

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 05:57 PM

ordered this

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Small-...ome,38974.html

66Submarine · 08-06-2014, 06:29 PM

Yeah, it looks like the long one to me; have you actually checked it? Here's a picture of a short waterpump.

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66Submarine

Yeah, it looks like the long one to me; have you actually checked it? Here's a picture of a short waterpump.

so how does one check to see if said pump is in fact short or long?

66Submarine · 08-06-2014, 06:37 PM

Measure it and see. Here's another long WP picture:

66Submarine · 08-06-2014, 06:40 PM

I'm on a roll stealing pictures today!

schpeen · 08-06-2014, 06:47 PM

here is mine

fleetsidelarry · 08-07-2014, 09:09 AM

going by submarine's photo and allowing for parallax viewing yours it looks like you have a long pump. I also believe the short pump fits right up against the timing cover while the long pump has a half inch or so gap.

EDIT: sorry for the redundancy, while I was typing the page must have added several replies
EDIT #2: even dumber than that, I was only looking at page 1

08-06-2014, 10:49 AM	#1
schpeen Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: fort lauderdale, florida Posts: 511	for those running 327's 305's 350's I have a 327 in my 65 c10 not the original motor to the truck I have the alternator on the passenger side and a short water pump my alternator brackets broke so to my surprise everyone I called to replace the bracket said none show the passenger side mount with the short water pump. After ordering a couple brackets that didn't fit I had the broken brackets welded and I cleaned them up as best I could but they aren't as straight as I'd like them to be. Anyone know what car info I can give at the auto parts store so I can replace the brackets with new ones?

08-06-2014, 02:07 PM	#4
cg285 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: sumterville, florida Posts: 914	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's looks like the long pump to me.

08-06-2014, 01:23 PM	#5
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's These may be more than you want to spend, but Alan Grove makes a passenger side alternator bracket for the short water pump. Part number 213r SC - Alt. http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/i...tions/213R.pdf http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/S...Short_Pump.htm __________________ My Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444502

08-06-2014, 02:03 PM	#6
LVPhotos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,853	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's Looks like 73 up. http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/865w/0181.jpg __________________ 1962 shortbed 408cui small block, TKO 600 5-speed, bagged Porterbuilt suspension. 18" Salt Flats http://www.cardomain.com/ride/332579...t-c-k-pick-up/ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=560081

08-06-2014, 02:04 PM	#8
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's That's the same bracket I had on mine many years ago. I picked it up in a junkyard, but had no idea what car it was attached to. It might have been a Monte Carlo or Chevelle, Nova, etc. Sadly it's long gone or I'd send it to you: __________________ My Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444502

08-06-2014, 01:13 PM	#2
PGSigns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hayes Va Posts: 4,569	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's Can you post a picture of what you have? Jimmy __________________ 60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131 Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need? 1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver 1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home 1965 Suburban 2003 3500 Duramax 2005 Ultra Classic

08-06-2014, 02:08 PM	#9
LVPhotos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,853	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's Looks like 73 up __________________ 1962 shortbed 408cui small block, TKO 600 5-speed, bagged Porterbuilt suspension. 18" Salt Flats http://www.cardomain.com/ride/332579...t-c-k-pick-up/ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=560081

08-06-2014, 02:19 PM	#12
cg285 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: sumterville, florida Posts: 914	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's i don't believe you are going to find a short pump with the heater outlet at the top and a boss for the bracket

08-06-2014, 02:09 PM	#13
LVPhotos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,853	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's Looks like 73 up. http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cc/full.aspx?Page=181 __________________ 1962 shortbed 408cui small block, TKO 600 5-speed, bagged Porterbuilt suspension. 18" Salt Flats http://www.cardomain.com/ride/332579...t-c-k-pick-up/ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=560081

08-06-2014, 02:47 PM	#14
PGSigns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hayes Va Posts: 4,569	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's That lmc part looks like a long pump bracket. I did not think that the alternator would fit up there with a short pump. Sure would like to see a pic of your setup from the drivers side to show your pump and the bracket. Jimmy __________________ 60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131 Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need? 1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver 1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home 1965 Suburban 2003 3500 Duramax 2005 Ultra Classic

08-06-2014, 04:50 PM	#16
LVPhotos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,853	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's Speedway motors is where I got mine. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Search...ackets%20chevy __________________ 1962 shortbed 408cui small block, TKO 600 5-speed, bagged Porterbuilt suspension. 18" Salt Flats http://www.cardomain.com/ride/332579...t-c-k-pick-up/ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=560081

08-06-2014, 05:13 PM	#17
schpeen Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: fort lauderdale, florida Posts: 511	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's i got home from work and took a few pics from up under her dress while she was sleeping Attached Images

08-06-2014, 05:20 PM	#18
schpeen Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: fort lauderdale, florida Posts: 511	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's one more Attached Images

08-06-2014, 05:57 PM	#19
schpeen Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: fort lauderdale, florida Posts: 511	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's ordered this http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Small-...ome,38974.html

08-06-2014, 06:29 PM	#20
66Submarine Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dallas, GA Posts: 1,497	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's Yeah, it looks like the long one to me; have you actually checked it? Here's a picture of a short waterpump. Attached Images __________________ 1965 C30 pickup 350/SM420/4.10's (daily driver) thread 1968 Impala 4 door sedan (future driver project) thread



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08-06-2014, 06:37 PM	#22
66Submarine Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dallas, GA Posts: 1,497	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's Measure it and see. Here's another long WP picture: Attached Images __________________ 1965 C30 pickup 350/SM420/4.10's (daily driver) thread 1968 Impala 4 door sedan (future driver project) thread

08-06-2014, 06:40 PM	#23
66Submarine Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dallas, GA Posts: 1,497	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's I'm on a roll stealing pictures today! Attached Images __________________ 1965 C30 pickup 350/SM420/4.10's (daily driver) thread 1968 Impala 4 door sedan (future driver project) thread

08-06-2014, 06:47 PM	#24
schpeen Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: fort lauderdale, florida Posts: 511	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's here is mine Attached Images

08-07-2014, 09:09 AM	#25
fleetsidelarry Senior Car Nut Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: shellman bluff, GA Posts: 1,411	Re: for those running 327's 305's 350's going by submarine's photo and allowing for parallax viewing yours it looks like you have a long pump. I also believe the short pump fits right up against the timing cover while the long pump has a half inch or so gap. EDIT: sorry for the redundancy, while I was typing the page must have added several replies EDIT #2: even dumber than that, I was only looking at page 1 __________________ Larry Last edited by fleetsidelarry; 08-07-2014 at 09:17 AM.

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