1970 4x4 ls truck build

[tmg619]

Hey guys, I just picked up this truck the other day and started tearing it apart. It is a 1970 but has a 67-8 front clip on it. I need some help with this build and some direction as I cannot make up my own mind on a few things. I hate chopping things up (which I will explain later) so I wanted to at least put the right front clip on. And I like the 69-70 front end anyways. The other issue is that I have to find a cab as this one is not in the best of condition. Lets just say the other guy who did it was not a body guy. I will post some pics so you can see. Now for some decision making. I know I want a 69-70 front end. I know i want to do an ls and I know what colors I want. My big delima is I have anther 1970 c20 2wd stake truck that I can use for parts. Why I don't want to do this is because I would hate to ruin a perfectly good truck by parting it out to use a cab and front end. Maybe I am over thinking this and maybe the truck isn't that rare. It has the raised hats for the cab lights and is a dually. Please help so I can get this build started I don't know what to do. Please chime in with ideas and thoughts. I am also new to the site so I am not to sure how to post pictures.

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by tmg619

Hey guys, I just picked up this truck the other day and started tearing it apart. It is a 1970 but has a 67-8 front clip on it. I need some help with this build and some direction as I cannot make up my own mind on a few things. I hate chopping things up (which I will explain later) so I wanted to at least put the right front clip on. And I like the 69-70 front end anyways. The other issue is that I have to find a cab as this one is not in the best of condition. Lets just say the other guy who did it was not a body guy. I will post some pics so you can see. Now for some decision making. I know I want a 69-70 front end. I know i want to do an ls and I know what colors I want. My big delima is I have anther 1970 c20 2wd stake truck that I can use for parts. Why I don't want to do this is because I would hate to ruin a perfectly good truck by parting it out to use a cab and front end. Maybe I am over thinking this and maybe the truck isn't that rare. It has the raised hats for the cab lights and is a dually. Please help so I can get this build started I don't know what to do. Please chime in with ideas and thoughts. I am also new to the site so I am not to sure how to post pictures.

Truck pic on trailer when I got it home

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by tmg619

Truck pic on trailer when I got it home

Side pic

[tmg619]

More pics.

[Nitis]

Linden California? If yes I'm right close work just down the road from you.

Welcome

First off you will likely want to rethink the LS. Since it's a 4x4 it's much more complicated requires a new front crossmember. I would consider bolting on a FITECH efi unit $800. Plus LS motors don't come cheap in our area like they do in other parts of the country. I have researched this to death when it comes to this as I have a 72k10 I want to do.

Has the front axle been swapped for disk brakes yet? This would be high priority for me.

Can swaps and vin numbers can be tricky so I would exhaust the options of repairs first

Good luck

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by Nitis

Linden California? If yes I'm right close work just down the road from you.

Welcome

First off you will likely want to rethink the LS. Since it's a 4x4 it's much more complicated requires a new front crossmember. I would consider bolting on a FITECH efi unit $800. Plus LS motors don't come cheap in our area like they do in other parts of the country. I have researched this to death when it comes to this as I have a 72k10 I want to do.

Has the front axle been swapped for disk brakes yet? This would be high priority for me.

Can swaps and vin numbers can be tricky so I would exhaust the options of repairs first

Good luck

Linden Michigan. I am on the phone as we speak for a crossmember. Dirty dingo carries them for around $400 I think. I already have disc brakes on the front and plan on doing the rears.

[tmg619]

Here is my engine. Which I will get into later as I need to make decision on a t case.

[BrianG]

Wow!!!! That is a beautiful truck. It looks perfect the way it is. I also like the 69/70 front end. You know how hard it is to find good cabs up here in MI, but I think there is one on CL. You'll probably have to pay a lot for it. I bought one a few years ago from a guy here in MI, and paid good for it, but its a nice cab also. You other truck does sound nice, I'm not sure it 'super' rare, but the bubble's on top are 'rarer' I believe. Maybe you could sell that one all together to help finance a new cab and front end. LS's in a 4x4 are doable, I know of one around here, but I don't think the guy is a board member. I'm over in Oakly, by Chesaning sort of. Good luck on your build.

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by BrianG

Wow!!!! That is a beautiful truck. It looks perfect the way it is. I also like the 69/70 front end. You know how hard it is to find good cabs up here in MI, but I think there is one on CL. You'll probably have to pay a lot for it. I bought one a few years ago from a guy here in MI, and paid good for it, but its a nice cab also. You other truck does sound nice, I'm not sure it 'super' rare, but the bubble's on top are 'rarer' I believe. Maybe you could sell that one all together to help finance a new cab and front end. LS's in a 4x4 are doable, I know of one around here, but I don't think the guy is a board member. I'm over in Oakly, by Chesaning sort of. Good luck on your build.

Thank you. It is far from perfect. Whoever did it before was not the smartest and painted over everything including bees nests. Yes bees nests. overspray everywhere. I am willing to spend some money for a cab. Or the one I have is good. I just didn't want to part it out if I could build that one up. Also the roof cab lights would look cool on a 4x4.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by tmg619

Thank you. It is far from perfect. Whoever did it before was not the smartest and painted over everything including bees nests. Yes bees nests. overspray everywhere. I am willing to spend some money for a cab. Or the one I have is good. I just didn't want to part it out if I could build that one up. Also the roof cab lights would look cool on a 4x4.

I agree, the cab lights would look great on your new 4x4 truck. If you are not really emotionally attached the dually, I'd use the cab and front end from it. Put the ones you take off the 4x4, back on that frame, and send it on its way.

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by BrianG

I agree, the cab lights would look great on your new 4x4 truck. If you are not really emotionally attached the dually, I'd use the cab and front end from it. Put the ones you take off the 4x4, back on that frame, and send it on its way.

I wouldn't say I'm emotionally attached I would just hate to chop up an all original truck. And the other thing is that i'm not restoring a truck to its originality, Its not going to have stock color and its not going to have anything else stock. So I don't know what i'm worried about except for the fact that I would hate to ruin an all original truck.

[tmg619]

I just got off the phone with dirty dingo and they just shipped out my front crossmember. $345 shipped.

[XwalkerX]

5.3?

I love my L33 swap...but it always could use more POWARRRRRRRR

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by XwalkerX

5.3?

I love my L33 swap...but it always could use more POWARRRRRRRR

Yes it is a 5.3. I figured it would be plenty for the truck but you never know. Maybe a cam in the near future.

[El Dorado Jim]

I agree, It would be a shame to tear apart an original truck,nice truck you picked up there, I am going to follow your build.....

[tmg619]

Thanks. It should be a good one. I still don't know what to do about the other truck. I will post some pics tonight of the dually

[BrianG]

There are several cabs for sale on the Flint area CL page.

Edit and note: non are mine or do I have any affiliation to them. ��

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by BrianG

There are several cabs for sale on the Flint area CL page.

Edit and note: non are mine or do I have any affiliation to them. ��

Yes I noticed. I would like a rust free can if possible. I would pay good money if I could find one.

[tmg619]

Here is my cab that is all jacked up. Cab corners screwed in over the old cab corners. The rockers are worse. And my firewall and cab mounts and support are completely shot.

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by tmg619

Here is my cab that is all jacked up. Cab corners screwed in over the old cab corners. The rockers are worse. And my firewall and cab mounts and support are completely shot.

Can corner

[tmg619]

Here is my 70 c20 all original that I can take parts off of.

[special-K]

I wouldn't ruin a good truck to fix the other. So what if the previous owner did hack body work. Just cut it out the same as you would if no one touched it and fix right. There's something to be said for saving a good truck as well as for keeping VIN-plate unmolested. You can mount factory clearance lamps on any top.

[tmg619]

Originally Posted by special-K

I wouldn't ruin a good truck to fix the other. So what if the previous owner did hack body work. Just cut it out the same as you would if no one touched it and fix right. There's something to be said for saving a good truck as well as for keeping VIN-plate unmolested. You can mount factory clearance lamps on any top.

I agree with you. The firewall is so bad it will cost more in parts than it would to just buy a rust free cab. It is the cab corners. Rockers. Entire floor. All floor supports. Cowl and firewall pieces. And the cab lights that are on my c20 have the raised hat on the roof. The roof panel actually had a raised panel for the lights to sit on.

[tmg619]

Update. I got the trans and t case out today. I started to take out the front engine mount brackets. Does anyone know how to remove those easily. They have bolts from underneath that are hard to get to. I also cut off some brackets that the previous owner made for nerd bars.

[tmg619]

Should I take every bracket off before it goes to sandblaster or just leave them on. For instance bumper brackets and everything that bolts on to the frame?