I think I got burned by Sawman

[Longhornss]

I purchased a section of box side from Sawman when he responded to my WTB posting about a repair section for my box corner.

That was in October of '15 it is now April of '16 after several comunications I have come to the conclusion I am never going to see the part I payed for. I have been assured the parts have shipped, however have never received shipping information/confirmation.

A recent search shows it looks like he may have pulled the same thing on at least two other members.

[Front Range]

That sucks. Was it shipping from the US to Canada?

[Longhornss]

I live in Canada. The part was supposed to ship to Michigan. I was not able to get a clar answers weather he shipped to Canada or my us address, On his first attempt. On the second attempt I made it absolutely clear the part was to be shipped to the US address. That was some time ago now. More than enough time to make the journey from Cali to Michigan. Even if it was shipped by stage coach.

[Front Range]

Originally Posted by Longhornss

I live in Canada. The part was supposed to ship to Michigan. I was not able to get a clar answers weather he shipped to Canada or my us address, On his first attempt. On the second attempt I made it absolutely clear the part was to be shipped to the US address. That was some time ago now. More than enough time to make the journey from Cali to Michigan. Even if it was shipped by stage coach.

Every carrier uses tracking, he should easily be able to provide you with that information. If you don't mind me asking - sounds like there were 2 shipments what happened to the original part in the first shipment? Was the second shipment a replacement?

[Longhornss]

I was told that the shipment had been "returned to him opened" the package never made it to me. Yes I agree that there should be some form of tracking available. In either case I was never provided with the information.

[Front Range]

Yep, that doesn't sound too promising. Did you ever pick up a replacement or are you still needing one, might be someone else here can help you get one.

Maybe contact site admin to see if they can help out.

[leddzepp]

He logged into this site at 1230 yesterday, so he is still around.

[Liz]

Please provide a link to the original sale thread if you would

[Longhornss]

Originally Posted by Liz

Please provide a link to the original sale thread if you would

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=686724

Liz this is the original WTB post. Everything after this was done through PM, a personal email where he sent me pictures of the part in question and PayPal.

I do no have the very first couple of PM messages but I do have most of them as well as the original email sent to me from Sawman.

[enduroride]

Originally Posted by Longhornss

I purchased a section of box side from Sawman when he responded to my WTB posting about a repair section for my box corner.

That was in October of '15 it is now April of '16 after several comunications I have come to the conclusion I am never going to see the part I payed for. I have been assured the parts have shipped, however have never received shipping information/confirmation.

A recent search shows it looks like he may have pulled the same thing on at least two other members.

Longhornss, don't feel like the lone ranger......he got my and a few other guys as well. Took me for $45. I've been waiting on my parts for over 3 months now. He has been promising our parts as well, along with many many excuses as to why they haven't been shipped. One day he will tell you they were shipped then a week later tell you something totally different.
I've been asking for a refund of my money for 2 or 3 weeks now.
Enduroride

[enduroride]

Originally Posted by enduroride

Longhornss, don't feel like the lone ranger......he got my and a few other guys as well. Took me for $45. I've been waiting on my parts for over 3 months now. He has been promising our parts as well, along with many many excuses as to why they haven't been shipped. One day he will tell you they were shipped then a week later tell you something totally different.
I've been asking for a refund of my money for 2 or 3 weeks now.
Enduroride

Here is a link to our original post.....its 6 pages long, read thru all of the pages, this guy has been scamming people for a while now.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=676439

[Longhornss]

Originally Posted by enduroride

Here is a link to our original post.....its 6 pages long, read thru all of the pages, this guy has been scamming people for a while now.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=676439

Thanks I have already seen this post, when I was looking to see if maybe I was the only one.... clearly I was not. I have started the process for making a claim with PayPal. I have most of my original PM messages as well as the initial email with pictures of the piece in question. I will also be directing PayPal to this post as well as the post for the link you have provided.

Thanks

[cleanfreak]

I'm on the list too......

[68bowtie]

wow. no bueno. i hope it's all a misunderstanding. i talked to him a while ago when he first started listing parts on the forum. i saved his number if that helps. his name is ed (supposedly). (530) 249-7528

[sawman]

everyone I will be back home in a few days,i see some buyers didn't get there replacement parts,due to family emergency I have not been home in a long time,sorry for the delays,sometimes things just happen,theres always a reason for everything,,no one got burned,i always honor all my sales,alot of you no this,thanks for your patience in me and my familys hard time,

[Longhornss]

Originally Posted by sawman

everyone I will be back home in a few days,i see some buyers didn't get there replacement parts,due to family emergency I have not been home in a long time,sorry for the delays,sometimes things just happen,theres always a reason for everything,,no one got burned,i always honor all my sales,alot of you no this,thanks for your patience in me and my familys hard time,

Ed I appreciate the response. What I would appreciate more is a amicable solution. I have not received my parts or any tracing information. I asked for a refund back in December but you assured me the parts would ship. I gave you the benefit of trying to make good on your word. At this point I no longer need the section of box side I purchased from you, because I have purchased a whole new box side while waiting for you. And what do you know it showed up without incident within a week, and I had tracking information on it the whole time.
So if I can get my money back now I will consider the matter closed. And ask a moderator to close or remove this thread.
Thank you.

[cleanfreak]

Ed , your responses are growing old. Your history in this problem shows that you have said you have shipped multiple time , while still trolling for more sales. You have never once showed anybody proof that the parts were even cut off. Never once has anybody been offered there hard earned money back. I am sick of seeing your name on this board , makes me mad every time I see it , knowing how you have taken advantage of all of us. I am going to delete myself from all these threads . I hope karma beats the crap out of you. - Bob

[enduroride]

Originally Posted by sawman

everyone I will be back home in a few days,i see some buyers didn't get there replacement parts,due to family emergency I have not been home in a long time,sorry for the delays,sometimes things just happen,theres always a reason for everything,,no one got burned,i always honor all my sales,alot of you no this,thanks for your patience in me and my familys hard time,

Ed, I'm with everyone else! You stated in a PM to me that you would be home a few Monday's ago and be there for 10 days and that we (the buyers and you) would get all of this straightened out. That was at least two weeks ago. I have also been asking for a refund for at least a month now. You told me two weeks ago that you would send me a money order.....haven't seen that yet either ! You can get on Paypal just as quick as you get on this board to send all of us a refund...........only takes a few minutes of your time, you do that and I think we will all be satisfied.
Wade

[Coley]

Originally Posted by sawman

everyone I will be back home in a few days,i see some buyers didn't get there replacement parts,due to family emergency I have not been home in a long time,sorry for the delays,sometimes things just happen,theres always a reason for everything,,no one got burned,i always honor all my sales,alot of you no this,thanks for your patience in me and my familys hard time,

....we'll see how your follow thru rolls out....

better get on that

Coley

[Coley]

Originally Posted by sawman

.......i always honor all my sales.....

lol.....maybe time to revisit the meaning of the term honor.

Yep...I can't abide by that kind of poor behavior either.
Scammers should face jail time.
I always find it amazing that 'people' are pressed for time to follow thru on their end of the deal, which maybe takes 1/2 hr at best....but there is always time to receive, cash and spend the money.

my two bits.

Coley

[enduroride]

ED ! Were is our refunds ?????

[Longhornss]

So apparently PayPal agrees with me, that I got Burned by Sawman. I filed a claim with PayPay and have received my money back.

This is why this is the only way I will pay for something I purchased online.

[Front Range]

Glad it worked out for you Longhorn, I thought you handled it professionally. When people feel cheated they can take it in a lot of different directions. You did not seek to insult nor injure and kept it drama free.

Good on you buddy.

[Longhornss]

Originally Posted by Front Range

Glad it worked out for you Longhorn, I thought you handled it professionally. When people feel cheated they can take it in a lot of different directions. You did not seek to insult nor injure and kept it drama free.

Good on you buddy.

Well thanks, I tried to be civil about the whole thing and give the benefit of the doubt. It was difficult at times to keep cool. But I figured if the PM messages and any subsiquent posts on this thread would be used to prove my claim. Flying off the handle was not going to help me.

I am glad I was able to get my money back. If it makes people think twice about purchasing from any specific seller than that is good to.
Remember PayPal helped me in this situation and can help you too. It took. Month but I got my money back.

[cr1hotrod]

Still looking for my dash or refund. Been since before Christmas.