The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-11-2016, 06:57 AM   #1
72farmer
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Hazel Green AL
Posts: 286
Questions on ZZ4 engine

I have a ZZ4 350 that is in great shape with low mileage.I am thinking about putting it in my 67.The 67 already has a 700R4 trans.I want a lumpy idle but don't care about performance.I guess I want a drive or a cruise in cam.
If I just change to the Mutha Thumper cam and leave everything else along will it perform almost as good as it does now without cam swap? I may not have enough vaccumn for brake booster and I may have to buy a stall converter.But I want the sound.
72farmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 07:08 AM   #2
dutchmanz
Knuckle Buster, Instructor
 
dutchmanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pantego, NC
Posts: 562
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

The ZZ engines are roller cam, I woukdnt take it out and replace it with anything less. I haven't seen the thumper cams in a roller but there may be one. I have worked on a few engines with the thumper cams. Mostly big blocks and yes, they sound good but I was not impressed with performance. I'd say look at a the LT4 hot cam. It's old school design but has a good sound and power.
__________________
Current classic fleet:
72 K5 Blazer CST, unrestored factory Orange paint...mostly
69 C10 factory SWB, 454, TH400, Saddle tan, Rust-o-ration
53 Studebaker M35 w/331 Reo gas I-6, Air Force Strata Blue
dutchmanz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 07:41 AM   #3
72farmer
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Hazel Green AL
Posts: 286
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

Yes definitely keep roller lifters.Will the Hot cam have a pretty good lope?
72farmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 07:46 AM   #4
dutchmanz
Knuckle Buster, Instructor
 
dutchmanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pantego, NC
Posts: 562
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

It's hard to say. What you call good lope may be different than what I call it. It has a good muscle car sound. I don't have any more videos of my cars with that cam. I'm sure you can find some on YouTube. It doesn't need the 1.6 roller rockers but it does sound better with them.
__________________
Current classic fleet:
72 K5 Blazer CST, unrestored factory Orange paint...mostly
69 C10 factory SWB, 454, TH400, Saddle tan, Rust-o-ration
53 Studebaker M35 w/331 Reo gas I-6, Air Force Strata Blue
dutchmanz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 08:55 AM   #5
geezer#99
Registered User
 
geezer#99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bowser
Posts: 13,731
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

Look here!
http://www.jegs.com/p/COMP-Cams/Comp...63876/10002/-1
geezer#99 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 09:33 AM   #6
dutchmanz
Knuckle Buster, Instructor
 
dutchmanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pantego, NC
Posts: 562
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

Quote:
Originally Posted by geezer#99 View Post
That's good to know. Had not seen them listed but had not specifically looked either.
__________________
Current classic fleet:
72 K5 Blazer CST, unrestored factory Orange paint...mostly
69 C10 factory SWB, 454, TH400, Saddle tan, Rust-o-ration
53 Studebaker M35 w/331 Reo gas I-6, Air Force Strata Blue
dutchmanz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 08:59 AM   #7
DBK81
Registered User
 
DBK81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 357
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

You won't be happy with the LT4 hotcam, it doesn't have much more lope than the ZZ4 cam.

https://youtu.be/74SqUrsCVgE

To answer your question, if you put in the mother lumper cam will you get the sound you are looking for? Yes you will, a head swap would gain you some hp but it's not nessesary if Preformance isn't what you are going for.
__________________
1972 C10 - It might be old, but it's not slow
DBK81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 09:03 AM   #8
DBK81
Registered User
 
DBK81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 357
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

This guy has his idle set to high, but you get the idea.

https://youtu.be/QzHsLKNGQbc
__________________
1972 C10 - It might be old, but it's not slow
DBK81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 12:43 PM   #9
fwayne
Registered User
 
fwayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Midlothian, TX
Posts: 55
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

Give any Cam manufacturer a call, they have plenty of grinds that are just what you need.

You want to avoid any high lift cams, which will force you to make spring and rocker arm changes. Thumpers are very nice sounding cams. I'm a fan of the old school lope myself! Essentially the cam you want should have significant overlap, which causes that sound.

Pair that up with some flowmasters to get it really talking.
__________________
1970 GMC Stepside Short
Gone...Factory 350 V8
Now...4.8L LS
fwayne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 12:49 PM   #10
davepl
Registered User
 
davepl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Redmond, WA
Posts: 6,332
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

Aren't the "Thumpr" series designed to have a bad idle but still be driveable or something? Like they sound big but you can still live with the grind? Not sure why I think that, but if its true, it could be just what you want.

If its not, someone should really tighten up the lobe centers on a RV cam and get a torquey but lumpey cam!
__________________
1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought
1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe
1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible
davepl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2016, 01:45 PM   #11
99turbogmc
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Beach city Texas
Posts: 22
Re: Questions on ZZ4 engine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aZAG6GI_IDA

If you watch the first 20 seconds, that's my turbo ls motor with a big cam, and drives great... Do it once and be done
Posted via Mobile Device
99turbogmc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com