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05-26-2016, 01:42 PM | #1 |
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1970 Nova....
Thought I'd post pictures of my other project. Bought this as a project in Nov 2012 (so a couple of quick posts to catch up to current progress)
Still haven't 100% figured out all the details of what I want to do to the car, so let me hear your thoughts. Previous owner worked on it for 5-6 years and got it here: 454 Big Block Th400 12 bolt rear with 3.73 gears Sub frame connectors Front factory disk conversion new fuel tank and electric pump replc all bushings undercarriage, firewall, and floors scraped and sprayed with Lizard skin No interior No dash Photo on pick up Nov 2012 Last edited by bs46488; 05-26-2016 at 01:55 PM. |
05-26-2016, 01:43 PM | #2 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
Update from June 2013
sold off the 15" rally's (with the wrong offset so they hit the fender lips) purchased cheap rollers for garage. Purchased cheap shocks to get settled cleaned up some wiring Stripped massive layers of old paint and lots and lots of bondo Started patching some rust holes Here it is in June 2013 So my biggest fear of the car at this point was the brakes. When I loaded it on the trailer, I got the feeling it wasn't going to stop and roll off the front of the trailer. Since it just had manual brakes, I figured hydroboost would be the best upgrade. Just finished up the Hydroboost over the weekend. After I finished the fab and mock-up of the hydroboost and started bleeding the brakes, I started to find some interesting stuff. Pass rear = working drum. Driver rear = No fluid present during bleeding. Driver front = excellent condition and fluid present. Pass front = dry as a bone. replace caliper, still no fluid. (Think I figured out why the brakes were a little sketchy loading on the trailer!) Had to replace line from master to front passenger just to get the fluid flowing again. Now I got 4 working hydro assisted brakes. THEY WORK! Before: Standard non-power master cyl with front factory converted disk and rear drums After: mock up of the Astro hydro boost and master cyln, you can see the Wilwood prop valve in the bottom of the pic So in August of 2013 I got most of the bugs sorted out and have a starting/stopping/steering project. Most of the original (5+ layers) of paint have been stripped off and it sits like this in rattle can primer |
05-26-2016, 01:44 PM | #3 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
2 years later.....July 2015
Anyways, I've made a little progress and also back tracked a little at the same time, so I thought I'd post an update. I was plugging away at the car for a good while. So then whenever I would start the big block to drive it into the driveway to work on it. I'd have to listen to my wife complain for about 2-3 days about how loud the car was and how bad it smelled. Then in my other ear, I have my father (who taught me all this car stuff) saying the same thing over and over again LS motor, LS motor, LS motor. So I finally caved to both of them and figured I could buy an LS motor and solve the old car smell for my wife and also take the advice of my father. So I decided to pull the big block and put it on an engine stand and make room for an LS in the Nova. Here is the Nova with its engine removed. You can also see my engine stand in the background (and my father). Typically engine stands are red, but mine seems to look a little primer gray with a hideous orange firewall: Here is the latest on with the nova. I'm back to researching and buying more parts for the LS conversion. I'm hoping to get it back to running, stopping, and steering over the summer. (I'm also hoping to have the truck as "driving project" by then too") |
05-26-2016, 01:47 PM | #4 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
Another late July 2015 update...
I've been able to recycle almost all of the old Nova parts into "the engine stand". My father is coming to visit again for a week, so we are going to install the boxes and boxes of parts I've bought for the ls swap. Hopefully by the end of July I'll have the Nova back to its starting/stopping/steering state. Here's a short rundown of the stuff I have for the install: SBC engine stands (The current stands are for BBC and the motor sits too tall) SBC coils - with the LS motor, the old BBC coils make the front sky high LS swap motor mounts Holley 302-2 oil pan LS swap headers ($200 ebay) Strip wiring harness (got the ECU flashed already) Walbro 255lph fuel pump new supply and return fuel lines new throttle cable If I've done my research and shopping correctly the only thing we are lacking to get this car running again is fluids, and I can run down the street for those. Stay tuned..... |
05-26-2016, 01:49 PM | #5 |
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August 2015 update...Wiring and Paint ideas
Finally got the engine location issues resolved. Had a slight header interference with the steering rag joint, so I had to move things around a little more. Now that every thing is in place, started working on final wiring. Getting the fuse block wired up and all the wires in the car for the OBD2 port, brake signal, tach, etc I borrowed the ECU mounting location from another member, Sebarta. Now that I got the stand alone harness resolved, I need to clean up the birds nest of wires that the previous owner created. He relocated the battery to the trunk with just a large power cable, then its piggy backed a few times for power distribution, alt feed, etc Update on Paint: So I bought my Nova without a lot of the previous history. I was okay with that, as I'm not restoring the car but pretty much doing whatever I want. I got a title and saw the vin on the dash matched, so I was fine with that. I was a little peeved that the PO took off the cowl tag, but what are you going to do. Anyways, working on all of this wiring for the past couple of weeks, you'll see that my wiring harness travels right near where the cowl tag is supposed to go. After staring at it for a long time, I decided to coat that area in about half a gallon of paint stripper and 45 mins of scrapping. And low and behold...under about 1/4' of Lizard Skin (PO decision, not mine!) I find the original cowl tag. So now I'm the proud owner of paint code 25, Astro Blue, Nova. Blue was never in my mind for future paint colors....but I'm wondering if it should be? My latest paint decision (I've changed my mind about 7 times) was white. |
05-26-2016, 01:49 PM | #6 |
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Mid Sept 2015
ALMOST done! I almost got everything done this weekend to turn the key for the first crank. Some of these "little detail" tasks can take up as must time as the original fab work. Here she sits with fluids in the car (and nothing spilling on the floor) I'll probably crank it over this coming weekend. |
01-23-2017, 04:15 PM | #7 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
Nice nova! You've brought it a long ways! The LS swap is very nice too. On the color, I'd just paint it what ever makes you happy. How's your engine stand project coming?
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01-23-2017, 08:31 PM | #8 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
Nice Nova. I think I was looking at your thread some where else trying to figure out what oil pan and motor mounts you used because my brother and I were having a hell of a time trying to get his engine in his Nova.
We ended up using the same pan you have but a set of plate style conversion motor mounts which required me to make all new motor mount towers.
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01-24-2017, 09:16 AM | #9 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
Always liked Novas! Yours is KOOL! Leave it black primer and drive the crap out of it!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-27-2017, 03:16 PM | #10 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
My final rust repair. After this I'll sand it all down and spray some epoxy primer.
The lower passenger fender. Rust on the left, new metal on the right. The patch panel comes with that bracket on the top. I'll have to add some metal to the small bracket on the bottom and reuse it.
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03-31-2017, 05:51 AM | #11 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
Very nice project, any updates on it ?
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04-03-2017, 01:58 PM | #12 |
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Not much has changed. Got it out of the garage to sweep up and blow all the dust out.
Got all the panels welded in and ground down. I started sanding the rattle can primer off to shoot this thing with epoxy soon
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04-05-2017, 04:32 PM | #13 |
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Re: 1970 Nova....
Looking good! It'll be nice to see it in epoxy!
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11-21-2017, 01:24 PM | #14 |
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Thought an update was due...
How does the saying go? 2 steps back one step forward. Haven't sanded or painted 1 inch of the car. Decided this car really wanted to be an LS swap with a T56 6 speed, so I'm neck deep in converting from the 4L60E. Had to remove a bunch of parts to get access and room to work, but I guess I'll consider that forward process on getting those pieces into primer before reassembly. Hood - removed to get access to removing the bellhousing bolts Fender - removed because I thought it would be a good idea to hide the ECU, which needed to be re-programmed for the manual trans Door - removed so I can swap out the old pedal assembly and add the 3rd pedal
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11-21-2017, 03:08 PM | #15 |
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It'll all be worth it in the end to have a manual IMO!
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Feels like I went through a lot of bumps and obstacles....but the 6 speed is in and working.
To anyone considering the swap it is definitely worth it to do the swap. Next up is paint.
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Got a new roll of 80 grit for my DA and started the prep for paint!
I'll start with the body shell and strip it all down.
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05-07-2018, 09:12 PM | #18 |
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I'm envious of the climate you live in. It's hard to leave anything bare here for very long. Nice work on the Nova too!
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Still prepping for paint.
Started to wire wheel the POR out of the window channels and found a nice surprise on both the front and rear windows. That white stuff in there is just filler globbed into a wide rust hole of nothing. Both lower corner have it bad too. Got the car stripped down further for paint and since I couldn't figure out how to get all the crusty seam sealer out of the rain gutters, I decided to just shave them off.
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That stinks about the rust/cobbed repair under the glass. The no rain gutters should make for some good conversations.
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Finally got the replacement tail panel installed.
I think I'll (finally) spray some primer this coming weekend.
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Looking good! I love novas
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Spraying primer is always a satisfying feeling...
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Here is a before and after of the windshield repair/metal work.
A couple small metal patches welded in, grind down the welds, cover in epoxy.
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Just stumbled onto one of your posts and saw the thread. I had a 72, did the same kind of work to it. I did a minitub and fit a 275\60\15 on an 8" wheel no problems. I wish I still had that car. Yours is looking great! Post more as you go. Great job so far.
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