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**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 06-03-2016, 06:12 PM

Perhaps nothing, I was..............The guy said they had one pair of NOS and the rest repros. I took the "NOS". Had I known they were not in a GM package I wouldn't have blown $135 shipped. I can get "NOS" out of a bag for nearly half that price. I didn't think to confirm they were packaged (ooops), but he made it clear they were NOS. Seriously, how the heck does he know?

I realize these may harden after conforming to the frame for so long, but I wouldn't have expected "NOS" to be so flat. As far as I can tell the originals never were. They don't spread apart much along the channel, and fold right back into place as if they came that way .....Could be dirt and grease, but the originals feel much heavier than I'd have expect too.

The guy is going to hear from me regardless. They're either NOS with no bags or impostors. Any insight is appreciated. The image doesn't say much. The channel in the center is original. The not sure are on either side, one up the other down. Thanks.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 06-03-2016, 06:43 PM

Called them. They bought them from Vintage and he PROMISES they're original. Note: One did have a very small piece of what was definitely a GM bag.........Doesn't say much, but it's EVIDENCE...ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!.

They're going to take a loss if they match other "NOS -no bags" and he needs to talk to his boss. Apparently they spent $44 each as they were chasing a pair...He sounds honest (first guy sure didn't). Anyway, $40 refund or I'm sending them back. Their call pending.

Willie Makeit · 06-03-2016, 09:39 PM

sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the originals / NOS were also molded flat. they only take a "U" shape once they are inserted into the frame.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 06-03-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Makeit

sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the originals / NOS were also molded flat. they only take a "U" shape once they are inserted into the frame.

That's not bad news at all. I'm not completely surprised, but wow, after 45 years they really like to stay in shape.

1968aj · 06-03-2016, 10:16 PM

I never understood why people py more for any nos plastic or rubber parts. even if they are nos they are 45 years old and are likely to deteriorate.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 06-03-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1968aj

I never understood why people py more for any nos plastic or rubber parts. even if they are nos they are 45 years old and are likely to deteriorate.

Honestly I agree as rubber is concerned...........I wasn't planning on buying any NOS rubber. I bought these anyway, for some reason. As far as deterioration, yep, that's a chance you take. Environment has some bearing.....Looking at these pieces I got, they look and feel brand new. NOS? Couldn't tell you. Lesson learned, and they haven't called back yet. I'll probably pay the post office a visit come Monday.

As for plastic, I don't know. The lenses are plastic, I don't see much going wrong with those. Shame they didn't use some "NOS bubble wrap" back in the day......Sure would have reduced shelf ware.

68is4me · 06-04-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 1968aj

I never understood why people py more for any nos plastic or rubber parts. even if they are nos they are 45 years old and are likely to deteriorate.

pretty sure they are not 45 year old parts. Gm made them for several years and were still available up to a couple of years ago. I have also purchased them from vintage in the past and if I recall the packing dates were from early 2000's.

The originals do lay flat like that. Once in stalled the pinch the glass very nice.

68is4me · 06-04-2016, 09:58 AM

Actually I just checked vintage and they still had 2 more available so I just purchased them. And I can tell you they cost a lot more then $135.00 for both.

Willie Makeit · 06-04-2016, 10:22 AM

what is this "vintage" you guys speak of? got a website?

68is4me · 06-04-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Makeit

what is this "vintage" you guys speak of? got a website?

http://www.vpartsinc.com/

Vintage parts buys old stock from the dealers and then resells the parts.
I am not sure if just anybody can order from them. I think you might have to be a dealer but never hurts to check it out.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 06-04-2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Makeit

what is this "vintage" you guys speak of? got a website?

I believe this is it. They don't seem to have many of our parts.

http://www.vpartsinc.com/search?manu...de=starts_with

Edit: Whoops, 68 already answered.

06-03-2016, 06:12 PM	#1
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,322	Window channels - Perhaps I've been ripped off Perhaps nothing, I was..............The guy said they had one pair of NOS and the rest repros. I took the "NOS". Had I known they were not in a GM package I wouldn't have blown $135 shipped. I can get "NOS" out of a bag for nearly half that price. I didn't think to confirm they were packaged (ooops), but he made it clear they were NOS. Seriously, how the heck does he know? I realize these may harden after conforming to the frame for so long, but I wouldn't have expected "NOS" to be so flat. As far as I can tell the originals never were. They don't spread apart much along the channel, and fold right back into place as if they came that way .....Could be dirt and grease, but the originals feel much heavier than I'd have expect too. The guy is going to hear from me regardless. They're either NOS with no bags or impostors. Any insight is appreciated. The image doesn't say much. The channel in the center is original. The not sure are on either side, one up the other down. Thanks. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

06-03-2016, 06:43 PM	#2
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,322	Re: Window channels - Perhaps I've been ripped off Called them. They bought them from Vintage and he PROMISES they're original. Note: One did have a very small piece of what was definitely a GM bag.........Doesn't say much, but it's EVIDENCE...ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!. They're going to take a loss if they match other "NOS -no bags" and he needs to talk to his boss. Apparently they spent $44 each as they were chasing a pair...He sounds honest (first guy sure didn't). Anyway, $40 refund or I'm sending them back. Their call pending. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 06-03-2016 at 06:49 PM.

06-03-2016, 09:39 PM	#3
Willie Makeit Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,234	Re: Window channels - Perhaps I've been ripped off sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the originals / NOS were also molded flat. they only take a "U" shape once they are inserted into the frame.

06-03-2016, 10:16 PM	#5
1968aj Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: houston texas Posts: 1,438	Re: Window channels - Perhaps I've been ripped off I never understood why people py more for any nos plastic or rubber parts. even if they are nos they are 45 years old and are likely to deteriorate.

06-04-2016, 09:58 AM	#8
68is4me Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: lakefield,mn Posts: 566	Re: Window channels - Perhaps I've been ripped off Actually I just checked vintage and they still had 2 more available so I just purchased them. And I can tell you they cost a lot more then $135.00 for both. __________________ 68 c10 swb stepper 68 c10 swb stepper 67 c10 lwb 06 gmc duramax

06-04-2016, 10:22 AM	#9
Willie Makeit Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,234	Re: Window channels - Perhaps I've been ripped off what is this "vintage" you guys speak of? got a website?



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