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New parts, now won't start
I swapped a busted Edelbrock for a new Holley 650 DP, and a locked out GM HEI for a new MSD street Fire HEI, and a crappy alt for a new Powermaster 105 alt, and now it won't start. It tried a couple times but that's all I could get it to do.
Any ideas? I dropped the distributor in exactly how it came out. And it's getting fuel because the carb squirts... |
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Overview if this helps
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Anybody have any ideas? It ran before even with the cracked carb and the weak alternator. I'm totally stumped and want to drive this thing
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Did you check for spark? When it tried to start was there any backfiring?
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Re: New parts, now won't start
New alternator hooked up right? Sounds electrical to me.
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Re: New parts, now won't start
I didn't check for spark because it tried a couple times but I'll make sure right now.
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Re: New parts, now won't start
If you have fuel and spark it should run. Are you sure the dizzy is clocked properly? It will act like this if the timing is off.
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Re: New parts, now won't start
I thought it could be 180* out but I'm positive I put the new one in just like the old one came out. I guess I'll have to pull it and try the TDC #1 process
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Always Mark the rotor position when lifting the dist it will clock the oil pump forward making the timing advanced when dropping the new one back in .
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Re: New parts, now won't start
When I pulled the old one out it was pointing at #6 so I figured just position the new one the same way. I must have put it back in wrong. Another thing I did was take the distributor cap off and removed the actual rotor when I put new weights and springs in. Can the rotor be re installed pointing either way or is there only one way to screw it back on?
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Re: New parts, now won't start
I turned the motor over til it was at #6 TDC and dropped the distributor in with the rotor pointing at #6 and no change, still won't start. I'm stumped on this one. The carb squirts and I pulled a plug and it's sparking like crazy
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Ok, so I took the valve cover off and started at square one to totally rule out the distributor being a problem. Turned the motor over to #1 TDC, bothe valves closed, and pointed the rotor towards #1. Still nothing
There's a metal flap where the choke it on the carb, is that supposed to open when the throttle is opened? |
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Ok it fired up and I kept it running, but I had to crank the distributor WAY over counter clockwise. See the picture and then let me know what you think
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Re: New parts, now won't start
I would slow down, sounds like you have insured that it is not electrical, also sounds like you are sure its not fuel because you have fuel in the carb.
I say it has to be timing still. Take you time, check the firing order a couple times, its easy to cross wires and otherwise get things wrong. At this point I would roll the engine over to TDC and stab the dizzy back in and see what you get. If nothing, over again and stab it back in. If all else fails start rotating the wires around the dizzy till she hits. |
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I pulled the distributor and checked everything and it did fire, but only after I turned the distributor way to far over counter clockwise. The vac canister is almost pointing forward |
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Re: New parts, now won't start
It's off 1 tooth.
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Yes. Turn the oil pump shaft till the rotor moves back enough. You might half to take it in and out a couple times till you get it right. Also you can move all the plug wires over one spot.
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Ok I did all that, and it's trying to start but backfiring out of the carb
EDIT I turned the distributor a little bit counter clockwise and it fired right up. I'm warming it up now I'll report back soon |
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Re: New parts, now won't start
Well I didn't have a chance to let it warm up, the wire that goes down to the starter is getting real hot and a little bit of smoke came from it along that wire holder plastic thing in the top part of the firewall. I don't see anything weird though, it's not melting on anything or grounding out from what I can see
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