4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

1972K20 · 10-03-2017, 09:05 AM

GM killed the Kodiak in 2008. A cab forward design has been the only option until now. There will be a 4wd version available too. I'm glad to see GM returning to this market.

**special-K** · 10-04-2017, 07:29 AM

Is this the Chevy they were mixing up with Navistar on?

1972K20 · 10-04-2017, 10:26 AM

From what I read, yes.

1972K20 · 10-04-2017, 10:39 AM

Only image I could find:

95 S_Trucker · 10-04-2017, 03:42 PM

It'll be nice to get a big block V8 again. Navistar bought all the rights from GM for the 8.1. I think The Navistar version it up to 8.8 now. Hopefully they offer it in these trucks.

**Bob B.** · 10-05-2017, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 95 S_Trucker

It'll be nice to get a big block V8 again. Navistar bought all the rights from GM for the 8.1. I think The Navistar version it up to 8.8 now. Hopefully they offer it in these trucks.

Actually, Navistar was thinking about buying the 8.1L back in 2006 when they were thinking about buying the Topkick and Kodiak from GM, but they pulled out of the deal at the last minute. The 8.1 design when to Powertrain Solutions:

http://www.psiengines.com/

They enlarged the 8.1 to an 8.8, and they sell that engine to Navistar for school bus use. They should offer that engine in the DuraStar truck, but for some reason they won't.

The new 4500 and 5500 will only offer the Duramax diesel at first, but word is they will eventually get a gas engine option. No idea what gas engine at this time.

1972K20 · 10-04-2017, 06:50 PM

I'm curious if a manual transmission will be offered.

C10 - C90 Bill · 10-04-2017, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972K20

I'm curious if a manual transmission will be offered.

I sure do hope so.

95 S_Trucker · 10-05-2017, 07:42 AM

Yea, it looks like PSI buys all of there smaller motors from GM.

I hope they just don't throw a little 6.0 liter in these new trucks. The 6.0 is a good motor, but its not good for trucks. The torque cure starts too high in the RPM range. You need torque down low, right where a big block puts it.

1972K20 · 03-07-2018, 12:46 PM

Here it is (see link below):

http://autoweek.com/article/trucks/c...utgun-ford-ram

Deer_hunter_088 · 03-07-2018, 02:57 PM

notice the Silverodo badge anyone?

95 S_Trucker · 03-07-2018, 05:03 PM

They anounced the silverado name for the medium duty trucks back in september.

It's a bummer there won't be anything bigger than 22,500 GVW, and it's a shame GMC wont get one. And its a shame there isn't a gas engine.

I remember the old(92-02) 6500s that had a GVW of 33,000. And now they are 22,500. How does that work.

1972K20 · 03-07-2018, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95 S_Trucker

They anounced the silverado name for the medium duty trucks back in september.

It's a bummer there won't be anything bigger than 22,500 GVW, and it's a shame GMC wont get one. And its a shame there isn't a gas engine.

I remember the old(92-02) 6500s that had a GVW of 33,000. And now they are 22,500. How does that work.

CDL requirements probably

sweetk30 · 03-07-2018, 10:56 PM

i see a 4x4 front axle in that pic .

1972K20 · 03-07-2018, 05:32 PM

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C10 - C90 Bill · 03-07-2018, 11:36 PM

They could have made it all the way to 26,000 and still be under CDL.

That said, it's a pretty good looking truck, although the Tires are too small.

Hope they offer Manual Transmissions in them.

**Bob B.** · 03-08-2018, 04:54 AM

I think there is a very good chance these new trucks will offer a gasoline engine by 2020.

**special-K** · 03-08-2018, 09:04 AM

Seems 4500/5500s are more like a gap filler between 1t and medium duty for the toy hauler market than a real medium duty. I see the same thing they've been building only now using a truck cab instead of a van

**Dieselwrencher** · 03-08-2018, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Seems 4500/5500s are more like a gap filler between 1t and medium duty for the toy hauler market than a real medium duty. I see the same thing they've been building only now using a truck cab instead of a van

Around here a lot of landscape companies and lawn/plowing companies went to the kodiaks and such. Tow trucks use a lot of these and will be glad to get them back I'm sure. Dodge even dropped theirs back in 08 or so. That only left Fords in the game. It's good to see GM back in it.

sweetk30 · 03-08-2018, 10:48 PM

drive my 2007 c5500 21ft rollback bed tow truck every day . love the old girl .

we have 4 of the 5500 rollbacks at work . great trucks . 2-duramax 2-8.1 gas

john@thepier · 03-08-2018, 06:33 PM

Oooh baby I see they say up to a 6500 in the article.

10-03-2017, 09:05 AM	#1
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 741	4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 GM killed the Kodiak in 2008. A cab forward design has been the only option until now. There will be a 4wd version available too. I'm glad to see GM returning to this market.

10-04-2017, 07:29 AM	#2
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 Is this the Chevy they were mixing up with Navistar on? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-04-2017, 10:26 AM	#3
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 741	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 From what I read, yes.

10-04-2017, 10:39 AM	#4
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 741	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 Only image I could find: Attached Images Last edited by 1972K20; 10-04-2017 at 06:19 PM.

10-04-2017, 03:42 PM	#5
95 S_Trucker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 2,187	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 It'll be nice to get a big block V8 again. Navistar bought all the rights from GM for the 8.1. I think The Navistar version it up to 8.8 now. Hopefully they offer it in these trucks.

10-04-2017, 06:50 PM	#7
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 741	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 I'm curious if a manual transmission will be offered.

10-05-2017, 07:42 AM	#9
95 S_Trucker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 2,187	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 Yea, it looks like PSI buys all of there smaller motors from GM. I hope they just don't throw a little 6.0 liter in these new trucks. The 6.0 is a good motor, but its not good for trucks. The torque cure starts too high in the RPM range. You need torque down low, right where a big block puts it.

03-07-2018, 12:46 PM	#10
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 741	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 Here it is (see link below): http://autoweek.com/article/trucks/c...utgun-ford-ram

03-07-2018, 02:57 PM	#11
Deer_hunter_088 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Mount Carmel Illinois Posts: 1,321	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 notice the Silverodo badge anyone? __________________ 1994 k1500, Oldredz71(ext shorty 4x4 6 in lift) 1998 S10ZR2 2005 Silverado 2500hd(tow pig) Made in the USA, just like my trucks

03-07-2018, 05:03 PM	#12
95 S_Trucker Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 2,187	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 They anounced the silverado name for the medium duty trucks back in september. It's a bummer there won't be anything bigger than 22,500 GVW, and it's a shame GMC wont get one. And its a shame there isn't a gas engine. I remember the old(92-02) 6500s that had a GVW of 33,000. And now they are 22,500. How does that work.

03-07-2018, 10:56 PM	#14
sweetk30 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: horseheads,ny rust belt Posts: 2,794	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 i see a 4x4 front axle in that pic . __________________ 77-k30lb BIG truck build . 87-k30lb budget beater build . 85-k30lb the plow machine build . 85-c10sb summer fun toy . ----------------------------- HOLLEY SNIPER efi = worst case of p.i.t.a i ever had . EDELBROCK pro flo 4 = best deal going so far . love my setup works great.

03-07-2018, 05:32 PM	#15
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 741	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 ..

03-07-2018, 11:36 PM	#16
C10 - C90 Bill Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Moneta, VA USA Posts: 3,088	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 They could have made it all the way to 26,000 and still be under CDL. That said, it's a pretty good looking truck, although the Tires are too small. Hope they offer Manual Transmissions in them. __________________ '60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan GMC 9500 Fan Detroit Diesel Fan

03-08-2018, 04:54 AM	#17
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,369	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 I think there is a very good chance these new trucks will offer a gasoline engine by 2020. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

03-08-2018, 09:04 AM	#18
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 Seems 4500/5500s are more like a gap filler between 1t and medium duty for the toy hauler market than a real medium duty. I see the same thing they've been building only now using a truck cab instead of a van __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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03-08-2018, 10:48 PM	#20
sweetk30 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: horseheads,ny rust belt Posts: 2,794	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 drive my 2007 c5500 21ft rollback bed tow truck every day . love the old girl . we have 4 of the 5500 rollbacks at work . great trucks . 2-duramax 2-8.1 gas __________________ 77-k30lb BIG truck build . 87-k30lb budget beater build . 85-k30lb the plow machine build . 85-c10sb summer fun toy . ----------------------------- HOLLEY SNIPER efi = worst case of p.i.t.a i ever had . EDELBROCK pro flo 4 = best deal going so far . love my setup works great.

03-08-2018, 06:33 PM	#21
john@thepier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lake Geneva, WI 53147 Posts: 970	Re: 4500 and 5500 will return for 2018 Oooh baby I see they say up to a 6500 in the article. Attached Images

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