The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-07-2018, 12:25 AM   #1
profe56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chula Vista California
Posts: 526
Radiator question

Hi folks:
I'm installing a new engine in my truck C10 69 350 engine
and I need your help where can I find a new radiator 4 row.
I saw some aluminum on ebay and amazon but I/m not sureb if they fit.
Thanks for your help.
profe56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 03:53 AM   #2
toolboxchev
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: 2nd left past the stump on a dirt road.
Posts: 2,629
Re: Radiator question

Quote:
Originally Posted by profe56 View Post
Hi folks:
I'm installing a new engine in my truck C10 69 350 engine
and I need your help where can I find a new radiator 4 row.
I saw some aluminum on ebay and amazon but I/m not sureb if they fit.
Thanks for your help.
If you go aluminum make sure its top of the line with no epoxy used, all tig welded. You will find threads on here about failures and what not to do.

If you still have your old one, it can be rebuilt. I have mine done for about 4 benjamins. I love that thing. All brass and copper.
toolboxchev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 08:25 AM   #3
jessemthompson
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 960
Re: Radiator question

What’s your budget like? Most of the cheap aluminum radiators are just that, cheap. Stay away from Griffen, they are epoxy welded and leak like a sieve. I run a Holley frostbite and I’ve been pleased with it. I’ve also heard good things about the champion aluminum radiators. I believe Arizona performance sells them. I’m sure someone with a champion will chime in (Andy maybe?)
jessemthompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 08:40 AM   #4
72c20customcamper
Registered User
 
72c20customcamper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Catskill Mountains,NY
Posts: 8,645
Re: Radiator question

I bought a 2 row from cold case for my truck. Pretty much a stock 350ci. My Chevelle I have a DeWitts HP series made in Michigan its also a two row with twin fans and I'm running a Mark Jones big block with 650 hp. Never gets hot . By a good brand. Why do you need a 4 row?
__________________
Mark
72 c20 custom camper Husky edition,
66 SS396 Chevelle 1964 Hawk, 63 Avanti,62 lark
1969 AMX ,
1968 c20 stepside ,85 K20
1977 Suburban sold
68 anniversary.
72c20customcamper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 08:42 AM   #5
jessemthompson
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 960
Re: Radiator question

Today’s 2 rows have more cooling capacity than the old 4 rows. With aluminum they can make each row larger.
jessemthompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 10:25 AM   #6
leddzepp
Moderator
 
leddzepp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southern Cal
Posts: 20,023
Re: Radiator question

I have champion in both my 68 and 72, very pleased with them.
__________________
1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed.

1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck.


RIP ElJay
RIP 67ChevyRedneck
RIP Grumpy Old Man
RIP FleetsidePaul
leddzepp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 05:17 PM   #7
Already Gone
70+ ( Old Skool Club )
 
Already Gone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada
Posts: 9,141
Re: Radiator question

Quote:
Originally Posted by leddzepp View Post
I have champion in both my 68 and 72, very pleased with them.
Jsu wondering if you had your heater cores rebuilt ot replaced or left them as they were in the trucks.
__________________
1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4
1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package
1992 K1500 GMC Suburban

Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601

" Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility "

" The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe ..


RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021
Already Gone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 05:22 PM   #8
profe56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chula Vista California
Posts: 526
Quote:
Originally Posted by Already Gone View Post
Jsu wondering if you had your heater cores rebuilt ot replaced or left them as they were in the trucks.
Well; I already placed the order but it would be a great idea keep it to rebuild it.
Posted via Mobile Device
profe56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 06:06 PM   #9
leddzepp
Moderator
 
leddzepp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southern Cal
Posts: 20,023
Re: Radiator question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Already Gone View Post
Jsu wondering if you had your heater cores rebuilt ot replaced or left them as they were in the trucks.
I replaced them with new ones, they were aluminum also. I believe made by Spectra, or possibly 4 Seasons...not sure though. Heater cores seem to leak just as much as radiators, and are much more of a pain to change out I fired up a project truck a while back and while the radiator held up the heater core puked all over the cab floor.

OP, glad you have a new radiator on the way! Post up a pic when it arrives
__________________
1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed.

1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck.


RIP ElJay
RIP 67ChevyRedneck
RIP Grumpy Old Man
RIP FleetsidePaul
leddzepp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 06:19 PM   #10
Already Gone
70+ ( Old Skool Club )
 
Already Gone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada
Posts: 9,141
Re: Radiator question

If you install any kind of new rad and do not change out or rebuild the heater core it becomes the weak link and in all likelyhood an untouched original will start leaking very soon after the the new rad is installed.
__________________
1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4
1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package
1992 K1500 GMC Suburban

Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601

" Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility "

" The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe ..


RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021
Already Gone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 12:16 PM   #11
profe56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chula Vista California
Posts: 526
Re: Radiator question

Thanks folks:
1.-I stiil have the old one. = I could rebuilt it (is brass made)
2.-Holley frostbite
3.-Champion aluminum radiators.
With this choices now I'm starting to look at the websites and if is possible to find it locally in San Diego.
Budget? well I saw one for about 4 grands and a half brass an cooper and its in my budget but with your advice I want to make the right choice. I already spent a lot a money building the engine and I know is very importan to have a good cooling system.
In case I decided for Champion I want to ask LEDZPP if He is using 2, 3 or for rows?
thank you again, I move to search at websites.
profe56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 12:29 PM   #12
leddzepp
Moderator
 
leddzepp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Southern Cal
Posts: 20,023
Re: Radiator question

CC369 is the part number, it is a three row. Their distribution center is in Lake Elsinore if you want to save on shipping and get it at the counter.
__________________
1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed.

1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck.


RIP ElJay
RIP 67ChevyRedneck
RIP Grumpy Old Man
RIP FleetsidePaul
leddzepp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 12:34 PM   #13
weq92f
Registered User
 
weq92f's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Dallas Texas
Posts: 3,161
Re: Radiator question

CC369 w/fan kit. Then get your harness from board member. Way less than your 4 grand jeez.

Don't spend that kind of money on a cooling setup unless your going Baja racing or something.

-klb
__________________
67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi
07 335 sport turbo 6sp
94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs
99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold
73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend
68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold
weq92f is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 01:00 PM   #14
jessemthompson
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 960
Re: Radiator question

The one nice thing about your brass radiator is that it can be rebuilt. With the aluminum, when it’s done, it’s done.
jessemthompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 07:49 PM   #15
72c20customcamper
Registered User
 
72c20customcamper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Catskill Mountains,NY
Posts: 8,645
Re: Radiator question

Quote:
Originally Posted by jessemthompson View Post
The one nice thing about your brass radiator is that it can be rebuilt. With the aluminum, when it’s done, it’s done.
Except no-one within 200 miles of me does rebuilds anymore. I can't even get rotors cut at a machine shop anymore they can't be bothered. I'll make due with a lifetime warranty.
__________________
Mark
72 c20 custom camper Husky edition,
66 SS396 Chevelle 1964 Hawk, 63 Avanti,62 lark
1969 AMX ,
1968 c20 stepside ,85 K20
1977 Suburban sold
68 anniversary.
72c20customcamper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 02:25 PM   #16
profe56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chula Vista California
Posts: 526
Re: Radiator question

Thank you LEDDZEPP: yes I saw at the website area 714 is close to me hour and a half,
All Aluminum Champion Radiator
3-Row Core | Cools up to 800hp

Radiator Dimensions:
Total: 19.25" tall x 33.88" wide
Core: 16.75" tall x 28.25" wide x 2.5" thick
Inlet: 1.5" driver side
Outlet: 1.75" passenger side
Tanks: 2.75" thick
Tubes: 0.63" thick
they give a lot of info.
I would like to go and see if they have a shroud for the 2
14'' fans, I already use a electric fan system.
thank you so much for all you help.
profe56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 02:27 PM   #17
profe56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chula Vista California
Posts: 526
Re: Radiator question

weq92f: who's the board member sells the harnes.
profe56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 07:42 PM   #18
72c20customcamper
Registered User
 
72c20customcamper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Catskill Mountains,NY
Posts: 8,645
Re: Radiator question

The cold case (vender here) was under 500 $ with the shroud , fans and wiring harness at the syracuse show . I did buy the early version because it was 275$ . Haven't put it in the truck yet, the original is working fine for now. Never heated up doing 75 going and coming from Carlisle in 90° heat. I bought The cold case so if the original craps the bed I have one in the shelf. The DeWitts was about 1000$ Complete. Both have lifetime warranties. Would never spend 4k on a radiator.
__________________
Mark
72 c20 custom camper Husky edition,
66 SS396 Chevelle 1964 Hawk, 63 Avanti,62 lark
1969 AMX ,
1968 c20 stepside ,85 K20
1977 Suburban sold
68 anniversary.
72c20customcamper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2018, 11:09 PM   #19
weq92f
Registered User
 
weq92f's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Dallas Texas
Posts: 3,161
Re: Radiator question

gmachinz

Quality stuff built to suit your need.

-klb


Quote:
Originally Posted by profe56 View Post
weq92f: who's the board member sells the harnes.
__________________
67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi
07 335 sport turbo 6sp
94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs
99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold
73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend
68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold
weq92f is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 06:32 AM   #20
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,945
Thumbs up Re: Radiator question

3 row all tig welded aluminum CH racing is who I ordered from, Champion are any other brand though should be just fine. I have 4 of them off E bay and not one problem. All 4 of them are 3 row's. They all fit fine. It's been in the truck for 4 years and no problems. That's 2 HRPT of 6000 miles on it to, plus day driving.

My truck runs 180* while moving the fans never run. They will kick on when stopped and sitting for any amount of time.
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 08:35 AM   #21
Redneck Rydes
Registered User
 
Redneck Rydes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Trenton,Ontario & South Carolina
Posts: 755
Re: Radiator question

I run a Champion CC369, great rad and value,very well built and keeps its cool!��
Redneck Rydes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 09:15 AM   #22
Rich69shortfleet
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Waverly, NE
Posts: 345
Re: Radiator question

Another endorsement for Champion. I've had mine in for a while now, was the last link in the chain to get the temps down on my sb400. Has performed admirably. They also come with a no questions asked lifetime warranty to the original purchaser. That's gotta be worth something right there.
Rich69shortfleet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 09:40 PM   #23
bill3rail
Registered User
 
bill3rail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: LI, NY 11801
Posts: 1,140
Re: Radiator question

I think Summit sells this copper/brass brand.
http://thermalsolutions.mycarparts.net/
Bill
__________________
1970 C10 8' Fleetside, L6 250, 3 on the Tree.
The most basic of pickup trucks!
bill3rail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 02:27 PM   #24
profe56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chula Vista California
Posts: 526
Quote:
Originally Posted by bill3rail View Post
I think Summit sells this copper/brass brand.
http://thermalsolutions.mycarparts.net/
Bill
Thank you all of you for your help.
I tried to order the champion but the sales person said that He did not understand what I wanted I Gave him the number part but this guy was rude.
That’s why I ordered the frostbite radiator from HOLLEY no shipping charge and almost same price. I will place a picture when I receive it
Have a wonderful day !!!
San Diego is too hot!!!
Posted via Mobile Device
profe56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2018, 12:51 AM   #25
profe56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chula Vista California
Posts: 526
Re: Radiator question

Posted via Mobile Device
profe56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com