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Andy4639 · 11-26-2003, 11:15 PM

I like this set up. I could build something like that if I had plenty of money, and tools.

BigChevMan · 11-26-2003, 11:59 PM

Nothing special about it...it's just a glorified 2-link setup. Which isn't the best setup anyway. it's not too hard to make a setup like that for a leaf spring truck in the first place.

phantom dually · 11-27-2003, 12:06 AM

It looks like a triangulated 4 link to me!

valley 67 · 11-27-2003, 01:43 AM

2ND...... TRIANGULATED 4 LINK

GMC JUNKIE TOO · 11-27-2003, 02:56 AM

I say tri 4 too, we don't want to get started on 2-links again

383drvr · 11-27-2003, 03:09 AM

I like it. How hard would it be to fabricate something like that from scratch?

phantom dually · 11-27-2003, 12:48 PM

It's pretty straight forward to do. Go to www.***************** He has everything you need.

70 Jimmy · 11-27-2003, 08:11 PM

Nothing "glorified" about that. It's real nice. I wonder about bag placement on it. That seems like alot of leverage. It would cut down the load capacity of the truck. I want to be able to pull a good sized trailer.

BigChevMan · 11-27-2003, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by phantom dually
It looks like a triangulated 4 link to me!

No way. I'd bet money that those outside bars are solidly mounted to the axle making it a glorified 2 link.

Either way it's a ridiculous setup. there are much beter cantilever style setups to be had.

Andy4639 · 11-28-2003, 07:05 PM

I didn't mean that it was the best out there, just saw it and thought it was nice set up. If you do reseach on baggs they tell you the front mount is for looks and the further back you place your baggs are for load, so which do you think he was going for. I would say look.

BigChevMan · 11-28-2003, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Andy4639
I didn't mean that it was the best out there, just saw it and thought it was nice set up. If you do reseach on baggs they tell you the front mount is for looks and the further back you place your baggs are for load, so which do you think he was going for. I would say look.

Actually his setup is about lift. Looks and load have little to do with it. In that setup he could probably get 10" of lift out of the rear of his truck.

70 Jimmy · 11-29-2003, 03:19 PM

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Either way it's a ridiculous setup. there are much beter cantilever style setups to be had.

So....you are able to find the problem. What's the fix? If your going to call something ridiculous, the least you could do is tell how to make it right and why is it so bad.

FuelCellGuy · 11-29-2003, 10:31 PM

4-link. If the rear lower mounts were solidly mounted, the upper links would be useless not to mention it would put the suspension in a bind. Used this setup on two customers trucks before. Plenty of lift and comfortable ride. Looks good to me. Later, FuelCellGuy

Injected68LS1 · 11-29-2003, 11:19 PM

I agree with FuelCellGuy. It is a 4 link. If the lower bars didn't pivot at the axle tubes, the suspension wouldn't travel much from where you see it. Also it does look like he would get tons of lift with where the bags are mounted. Later

phantom dually · 11-30-2003, 02:43 AM

Its kinds like getting to the center of a tootsie roll pop. You will never know!! Any one have a pic of the mount to the rear??

Andy4639 · 11-30-2003, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FuelCellGuy
4-link. If the rear lower mounts were solidly mounted, the upper links would be useless not to mention it would put the suspension in a bind. Used this setup on two customers trucks before. Plenty of lift and comfortable ride. Looks good to me. Later, FuelCellGuy

FuelCellGuy:

If you look at the picture closely you would see that the axle tube is solid mounted on the bottom to the ladder bar, and the action comes from the ladder bars on the front side. Look how he cut the frame at a angle for the axle to come down at a angle. The whole reason of this is for looks. You get more lift yes, but look is what he is after, when he air's out his bagg's. LOOKS

BigChevMan:

And why is it a ridiculous setup? I think it is one of the best I've seen myself. Anyone knows that the further out your mounts are the better ride you will get. In other words you want have as much side to side motion, because you moved your axis of center out on the outside of the frame. I think this guy knew what he was doing when he came up with this idea.

I really didn't mean to start a slam on this guy's set up, I just thought it was a nice picture of a guy's truck that had spent some time and money on his set up. That's all.

Slammed67 · 12-25-2003, 02:49 PM

here is the rest of the truck that is shown in that first picture......

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/247814

phantom dually · 12-25-2003, 02:57 PM

Wow thats alot of lift!!

shimp · 12-26-2003, 12:17 AM

Looks great to me. If you go check out the pics on cardomain you can see it hits sides well an has a ton of lift. I wonder what it looks like behind the tire. I'd like to see a pic of the joints.

Injected68LS1 · 12-26-2003, 04:24 AM

Andy4639,

I don't agree with you. The lower bars can not be mounted solidly to the axle tubes. They have to have a pivot here to move at all. It's basic engineering linkage design.

It's a 4 link with a pivot at the end of each bar(including the axle tube).

If it didn't have a pivot there the suspension would be a triangulated truss(that's from engineering STATICS class, meaning things that don't move). Statics explains how bridges are made. It would be very stong and not move an inch. I could draw a picture if you would like.

Injected

11-26-2003, 11:15 PM	#1
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	For you Baggers I like this set up. I could build something like that if I had plenty of money, and tools. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

11-27-2003, 12:06 AM	#3
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	It looks like a triangulated 4 link to me! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

11-27-2003, 12:48 PM	#7
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	It's pretty straight forward to do. Go to www.***************** He has everything you need. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

11-27-2003, 08:11 PM	#8
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	Nothing "glorified" about that. It's real nice. I wonder about bag placement on it. That seems like alot of leverage. It would cut down the load capacity of the truck. I want to be able to pull a good sized trailer. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

11-28-2003, 07:05 PM	#10
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Set up I didn't mean that it was the best out there, just saw it and thought it was nice set up. If you do reseach on baggs they tell you the front mount is for looks and the further back you place your baggs are for load, so which do you think he was going for. I would say look. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

11-26-2003, 11:59 PM	#2
BigChevMan My Thoughts Exactly! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 140	Nothing special about it...it's just a glorified 2-link setup. Which isn't the best setup anyway. it's not too hard to make a setup like that for a leaf spring truck in the first place.

11-27-2003, 01:43 AM	#4
valley 67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: calif. central valley Posts: 175	2ND...... TRIANGULATED 4 LINK

11-27-2003, 02:56 AM	#5
GMC JUNKIE TOO THE QUICKER FIXERUPER Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ok Posts: 615	I say tri 4 too, we don't want to get started on 2-links again

11-27-2003, 03:09 AM	#6
383drvr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx. Posts: 308	I like it. How hard would it be to fabricate something like that from scratch?

11-29-2003, 10:31 PM	#13
FuelCellGuy FUEL CELL GURU Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 993	Definately.... 4-link. If the rear lower mounts were solidly mounted, the upper links would be useless not to mention it would put the suspension in a bind. Used this setup on two customers trucks before. Plenty of lift and comfortable ride. Looks good to me. Later, FuelCellGuy

11-29-2003, 11:19 PM	#14
Injected68LS1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 389	I agree with FuelCellGuy. It is a 4 link. If the lower bars didn't pivot at the axle tubes, the suspension wouldn't travel much from where you see it. Also it does look like he would get tons of lift with where the bags are mounted. Later __________________ 1968 Chev SWB with 1998 Corvette LS1 305hp and 320 ftlb to the wheels (stock engine!) AEM EMS and wideband O2 sensors Bowtie Overdrive's 700R4, stage 3 Baer 4 wheel discs and 20s http://iciclelanding.com/aperture?album=2049&view=album Last edited by Injected68LS1; 12-26-2003 at 04:22 AM.

11-30-2003, 02:43 AM	#15
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Its kinds like getting to the center of a tootsie roll pop. You will never know!! Any one have a pic of the mount to the rear?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

12-25-2003, 02:49 PM	#17
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	here is the rest of the truck that is shown in that first picture...... http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/247814 __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

12-25-2003, 02:57 PM	#18
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Wow thats alot of lift!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

12-26-2003, 12:17 AM	#19
shimp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Waller, TX Posts: 57	Looks great to me. If you go check out the pics on cardomain you can see it hits sides well an has a ton of lift. I wonder what it looks like behind the tire. I'd like to see a pic of the joints. __________________ 2004 Chevy Silverado 1500 RCSB 4.8v8 5 speed 2002 GMC Sierra 1500 RCSB 4.8v8 auto (wifes truck) 1986 Chevy Caprice 5.0 auto (like driving a couch down the road) 1982 Chevy C30 Crew Cab 2wd LWB - Beater Truck (I have more!) Too many to list!



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12-26-2003, 04:24 AM	#20
Injected68LS1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 389	Andy4639, I don't agree with you. The lower bars can not be mounted solidly to the axle tubes. They have to have a pivot here to move at all. It's basic engineering linkage design. It's a 4 link with a pivot at the end of each bar(including the axle tube). If it didn't have a pivot there the suspension would be a triangulated truss(that's from engineering STATICS class, meaning things that don't move). Statics explains how bridges are made. It would be very stong and not move an inch. I could draw a picture if you would like. Injected __________________ 1968 Chev SWB with 1998 Corvette LS1 305hp and 320 ftlb to the wheels (stock engine!) AEM EMS and wideband O2 sensors Bowtie Overdrive's 700R4, stage 3 Baer 4 wheel discs and 20s http://iciclelanding.com/aperture?album=2049&view=album Last edited by Injected68LS1; 12-26-2003 at 04:29 AM.

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