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**Canadian694x4** · 12-18-2003, 09:40 PM

Such thing as a 4x4 Cameo???

on Ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=5348

FRENCHBLUE72 · 12-18-2003, 09:49 PM

That's the 1st one I have ever seen. I guess napco would have done the conversion?? Also the shackle's are mounted up front kinda wiered.. Killer looking truck though..

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 12-18-2003, 10:25 PM

I think that someone turned it into a 4x4, it doesn't look like the frontend that NAPCO usually used it looks like a mid 70's style, matching the motor. Also look at the gear housing and the spring, it looks like the spring is setting on the housing, also look at the shock mount it kinda looks cobbled up on the axle.

Hutch · 12-18-2003, 10:37 PM

Canadian694x4
In 1958 the Napco conversion would have been done at GM.
Something about the front axle does not look correct to me.
The tranfer case shifter does look correct.
I always thought that this is a perfect combination to have but was unaware if the factory ever offered it.
The crossmember for the transfer case would have had rivits instead of bolts to secure it to the frame starting sometime in the 1957 model year.
A very nice truck for someone to restore.

**Palf70Step** · 12-18-2003, 10:40 PM

I thought the Cameo's were an integrated cab and bed. That looks to be a regualr Apace model. Have no idea though if they were 4x4 or not though.

Tx Firefighter · 12-18-2003, 10:59 PM

Bill, no Cameos were simply fibergalss bedsides installed on normal step side beds. They also used special bumpers and such. I've read that the bumpers on a Cameo project could make or break the deal much moreso than the condition of the bedsides.

1969 GMC · 12-19-2003, 01:10 AM

Dana 44 front axle = NOT ORIGINAL.

Like it has been said, the Napco front axle has a round diff cover and has "NAPCO" cast into it in fairly large lettering.

Also, notice the tie rod up above the axle, not in front like the dana 44...and there is only one U-bolt on the diff side on the Napco...there are 2 studs there (a la dana 60) that hold where you think the other U-bolt would go, vs. 2 U-bolts on the dana 44.
I believe I read somewhere that the Napco front axle is a modified Eaton HO unit, and it does resemble one.

You could get the Napco Powr-Pak on any truck back then, so yes, you could have gotten an original Cameo conversion from Napco. However, I have only seen a couple of these trucks, and common sense would dictate that back then, 4wd would be put on utilitarian work trucks, not the fancy Cameo. But there are a handful that do exist. Try this website, they have a lot of good info and pictures of Napco trucks:
www.napco4x4.org

**Canadian694x4** · 12-20-2003, 02:39 AM

I was pretty sure it was a PO conversion...thanks for the link 1969 GMC!!!

Cat Fuzz · 12-20-2003, 03:27 AM

Did anyone else click expecting to see a Camaro on a 4x4 truck frame?

12-18-2003, 09:40 PM	#1
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,308	A Little Off Topic... Such thing as a 4x4 Cameo??? on Ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=5348 __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 22 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada!- 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 3 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 17 Yrs- 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 8 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

12-18-2003, 09:49 PM	#2
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	That's the 1st one I have ever seen. I guess napco would have done the conversion?? Also the shackle's are mounted up front kinda wiered.. Killer looking truck though.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-18-2003, 10:25 PM	#3
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	I think that someone turned it into a 4x4, it doesn't look like the frontend that NAPCO usually used it looks like a mid 70's style, matching the motor. Also look at the gear housing and the spring, it looks like the spring is setting on the housing, also look at the shock mount it kinda looks cobbled up on the axle. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

12-18-2003, 10:37 PM	#4
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	Canadian694x4 In 1958 the Napco conversion would have been done at GM. Something about the front axle does not look correct to me. The tranfer case shifter does look correct. I always thought that this is a perfect combination to have but was unaware if the factory ever offered it. The crossmember for the transfer case would have had rivits instead of bolts to secure it to the frame starting sometime in the 1957 model year. A very nice truck for someone to restore. __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

12-18-2003, 10:40 PM	#5
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,083	I thought the Cameo's were an integrated cab and bed. That looks to be a regualr Apace model. Have no idea though if they were 4x4 or not though. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

12-18-2003, 10:59 PM	#6
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Bill, no Cameos were simply fibergalss bedsides installed on normal step side beds. They also used special bumpers and such. I've read that the bumpers on a Cameo project could make or break the deal much moreso than the condition of the bedsides. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

12-19-2003, 01:10 AM	#7
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	Dana 44 front axle = NOT ORIGINAL. Like it has been said, the Napco front axle has a round diff cover and has "NAPCO" cast into it in fairly large lettering. Also, notice the tie rod up above the axle, not in front like the dana 44...and there is only one U-bolt on the diff side on the Napco...there are 2 studs there (a la dana 60) that hold where you think the other U-bolt would go, vs. 2 U-bolts on the dana 44. I believe I read somewhere that the Napco front axle is a modified Eaton HO unit, and it does resemble one. You could get the Napco Powr-Pak on any truck back then, so yes, you could have gotten an original Cameo conversion from Napco. However, I have only seen a couple of these trucks, and common sense would dictate that back then, 4wd would be put on utilitarian work trucks, not the fancy Cameo. But there are a handful that do exist. Try this website, they have a lot of good info and pictures of Napco trucks: www.napco4x4.org __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

12-20-2003, 02:39 AM	#8
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,308	I was pretty sure it was a PO conversion...thanks for the link 1969 GMC!!! __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 22 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada!- 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 3 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 17 Yrs- 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 8 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

12-20-2003, 03:27 AM	#9
Cat Fuzz My son, my joy. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 463	Did anyone else click expecting to see a Camaro on a 4x4 truck frame?



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