The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Engine & Drivetrain > LSx Swaps

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-26-2023, 08:44 PM   #1
87chevy.com
BMW & ASE Master Certified
 
87chevy.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 1,266
custom 5/8 a/c low side line tubing question

I am working on getting the low side a/c hose fabbed up on my LS swapped 5 series BMW that i'm putting for sale afterwards, but it needs a multiple bend of #12 5/8 tubing to make everything jive. Ive made 2 orders of different variety of parts/fittings/tubing bending attempts and cant seem to make it look nice and clean as a 1pc tube would.

Im considering investing in a mandrel bender just for this one size as the Rigid 5/8 tube bender radius is just not tight enough (its 5")... really smooth bend though.

I've needed pre bent tubing connected to the a/c pad before on my last 2 L83 swaps... all of those bends were saved from OEM evaporators and such...

Anyone else feel this is beneficial.. it would require brazing on fittings but the
result is tighter and tidy looking connections. Looking for purpose after making this 1 single tube If I bought it it would be a service i would offer but unsure if if its even needed.. Ill add pictures tomorrow of the last 2 swaps
__________________
1987 Silverado - L83 5.3 w/ 6L80e ,A/C,P/W,P/L,TILT, HID projectors, Wilwood C-10 Pro Spindles w/ 2018 silverado front brakes & C-5 Corvette Rear Disc Brakes
1999 BMW 528i - 5.7 LS1 w/ 4l60e, Ford 8.8 IRS w31 spline posi & FX-r projector retrofit

New project: 2006 BMW x5 6cyl AWD to L83 6l80e 4wd to 2WD / RWD

A poor man buy's it twice

finally got my domain name back, 87chevy.com.... site rework in progress
87chevy.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2023, 10:19 PM   #2
87chevy.com
BMW & ASE Master Certified
 
87chevy.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 1,266
Re: custom 5/8 a/c low side line tubing question

Well, decided not to buy the tool, did some brain storming and 3d printed the solution lol

I mocked up the #12 U splice from coldhose.com which turns out has a 3" radius. The Ridgid 5/8 tube bender I have is a 5" radius and just to wide for this tight space... continued with mockup and eyeballed measurements, bends, drops etc...

... drew a sketch and printed it as 1 assembly, it split lol... ambitious

2nd attempt worked like a champ.
Looking around for scrap steel, and had a nice piece of 1/8 plate, and then I seen a back cover plate of an L83 vacuum pump in my scrap bin... yep, reduce, reuse and recycle ...for those who are old, Captain Planet goooo haha









end was bent when from something else, not from the tool













no kinking, it is a bit oval, but that's because I heard a video on youtube that the dies are slightly oval shaped... sounds right i guess..... I'm going to print another set with just a 5/8" radius and try it just for kicks.

I probably have about 2 hours of practicing aluminum brazing, and these look pretty dang good... I think the oxygen / acetylene setup is defiantly needed for the a/c block to tube fittings. You might get by with MAP gas on the hose fitting to tube. Now I just need to get a new piece of #12 hose and crimp it together and back in a/c business

clint
__________________
1987 Silverado - L83 5.3 w/ 6L80e ,A/C,P/W,P/L,TILT, HID projectors, Wilwood C-10 Pro Spindles w/ 2018 silverado front brakes & C-5 Corvette Rear Disc Brakes
1999 BMW 528i - 5.7 LS1 w/ 4l60e, Ford 8.8 IRS w31 spline posi & FX-r projector retrofit

New project: 2006 BMW x5 6cyl AWD to L83 6l80e 4wd to 2WD / RWD

A poor man buy's it twice

finally got my domain name back, 87chevy.com.... site rework in progress
87chevy.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2023, 03:29 PM   #3
Jason Banks
Senior Member
 
Jason Banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: TX
Posts: 1,623
Re: custom 5/8 a/c low side line tubing question

That's amazing, great work!
Jason Banks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 12:18 PM   #4
Hart_Rod
*************
 
Hart_Rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 17,858
Re: custom 5/8 a/c low side line tubing question

Nice job.
Hart_Rod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 01:41 PM   #5
A1971Blazer
Senior Member
 
A1971Blazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 2,198
Re: custom 5/8 a/c low side line tubing question

Clint,
I'm doing my '67 AC right now, and needed some 5/8" bends. A friend had loaned me his bender which also makes a 5" diameter bend.
I dug out some old scrap aluminum and made me one to bend a 3" diameter...works like a charm...
I'm looking for the dimensions of the female end so I can make a swaging tool to duplicate that geometry.
Also got into the aluminum brazing just for fun.
For starters I'm using the AL822 rods from Lucas Milhaupt...822°F melting point with MAP gas....it flows into the joint almost as good as silver brazing.
I'm anxious to see how it performs. I'll be pumping it down in a few days.
Name:  bender1b.jpg
Views: 140
Size:  81.3 KB

Name:  bender3b.jpg
Views: 135
Size:  76.9 KB
__________________
1967 C10 Step side
1968 C10 Step side
1970 Chevrolet K/5 Blazer
1972 Chevrolet K/5 Blazer
.............
A1971Blazer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2023, 01:12 PM   #6
87chevy.com
BMW & ASE Master Certified
 
87chevy.com's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 1,266
Re: custom 5/8 a/c low side line tubing question

Quote:
Originally Posted by A1971Blazer View Post
Clint,
I'm doing my '67 AC right now, and needed some 5/8" bends. A friend had loaned me his bender which also makes a 5" diameter bend.
I dug out some old scrap aluminum and made me one to bend a 3" diameter...works like a charm...
I'm looking for the dimensions of the female end so I can make a swaging tool to duplicate that geometry.
Also got into the aluminum brazing just for fun.
For starters I'm using the AL822 rods from Lucas Milhaupt...822°F melting point with MAP gas....it flows into the joint almost as good as silver brazing.
I'm anxious to see how it performs. I'll be pumping it down in a few days.
Attachment 2303645

Attachment 2303646

nothing short of amazing work you do.... I am going to look into that rod you mentioned and give it a try. The Uniweld brand Aluma-Braze looks and flowed awesome except 2 of 3 joints I got leaks when nitrogen testing the fittings... not sure whats happening.
did you make a forming die for the male o-ring end in that picture?
clint
__________________
1987 Silverado - L83 5.3 w/ 6L80e ,A/C,P/W,P/L,TILT, HID projectors, Wilwood C-10 Pro Spindles w/ 2018 silverado front brakes & C-5 Corvette Rear Disc Brakes
1999 BMW 528i - 5.7 LS1 w/ 4l60e, Ford 8.8 IRS w31 spline posi & FX-r projector retrofit

New project: 2006 BMW x5 6cyl AWD to L83 6l80e 4wd to 2WD / RWD

A poor man buy's it twice

finally got my domain name back, 87chevy.com.... site rework in progress

Last edited by 87chevy.com; 10-01-2023 at 01:31 PM.
87chevy.com is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 02:47 PM   #7
Joyridin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 553
Re: custom 5/8 a/c low side line tubing question

Nice job!
Joyridin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com