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firemapper · 02-26-2004, 04:51 PM

I am planning to replace the stock speaker. I am looking at the dual front speakers and the dual voice coil speaker from LMC Truck. Both fit in the original location, but I'm not sure if one is better than the other. Any input on which one is better or worse? Thanks for the help.

gr8scott51 · 02-26-2004, 09:25 PM

I have the dual voice coil speaker in my dash. I'm not happy with any of the Custom Autosound stuff that I paid way too much for.

Scott

firemapper · 02-26-2004, 09:36 PM

The Dual Voice coil speaker I am looking at is around $59. Is this what you paid? Is the sound bad, not clear, distorted? Does it give you the stereo sound that they advertise? Do you get good highs and lows? Thanks for the info.

gr8scott51 · 02-26-2004, 09:42 PM

Yeah, LMC sells the Custom Autosound stuff (probably marks it up). The sound is not full bodied. Sounds like the old stock am radio. Buy some good after market stuff and hack away to make it fit ***IF*** the music is important to you.

scott

Blue Beard · 02-26-2004, 10:36 PM

I used twin speakers and made my own bracket to fit the stock location.

Jeff M. · 02-27-2004, 01:20 AM

I attached a pair of coaxial balplunk (sp?) speakers to my old speaker frame. They are 4" or so each. Tight fit with a/c but they solved the speaker problem.

angelsairman · 02-27-2004, 02:43 AM

When i first bought my truck from some farmer it had a small metal plate screwed to the dash in the center with about 5 feet of speaker wire running out of the bottom of the center console up to a 6X9 that was sticking to the metal plate via the magnet...HAHAHA but back to the subject at hand. I just bought some 3.5's and fabricated my own bracket for them..not to hard even for someone like me with limited fabrication skills.... attached it the pic of the "high end" sound system previously installed in my pickup..note the dash....

Edmond · 02-27-2004, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by Jeff M.
I attached a pair of coaxial balplunk (sp?) speakers to my old speaker frame. They are 4" or so each. Tight fit with a/c but they solved the speaker problem.

:p I guess you mean Blaupunkt?

Cya,
Edmond

SWEET7T · 02-27-2004, 04:21 AM

you could get 2 3.5" speakers and get them up in the original location, but you will have to get creative to getting them to stay there. Like bolt a tab on each one together, then put them up there diagonal in the location. Make sense? (too late in the night for me)

IMO I would go with a dual voice coil speaker. You will get better lows out of it, has a lot more surface area to move more air.

If this speaker is your main source for noise, then get a dual voice coil setup. If you are adding other components, then get the 2 3.5", they will have better highs, and then you can depend on a sub for the bass. just depends on what your plans are...

Alexis · 02-27-2004, 04:25 AM

They sell these rubbery pieces you put behind the speaker to help direct sound, most stereo shop have them, try to patch the rubber piece behind the speaker unless you build a box for them. help direct the sound better. The direction for the rubber piece are the glue it to the sheet metal in the door behind the speaker.

Lippyp · 02-27-2004, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alexis
They sell these rubbery pieces you put behind the speaker to help direct sound, most stereo shop have them, try to patch the rubber piece behind the speaker unless you build a box for them. help direct the sound better. The direction for the rubber piece are the glue it to the sheet metal in the door behind the speaker.

I thought these were just intended to protect the speaker cone from any water that gets into the door.

Alexis · 02-27-2004, 06:05 AM

lippy i know what you are talking about, it a plastic bucket that the speaker sit in so it can be protected from the elements. No, that is not what I'm talking about but that can help though.

I'll find out tomorrow at work. But placing the speakers in a small wooden box would help direct sound alot more then just haven it bolted under the dash with straps.

Edmond · 02-27-2004, 06:28 AM

The problem is you don't have enough room for it to put in a small wooden box. Not under the stock location. Best thing to do is put in Kickpanel speakers, and place a pair of tweeters high on the pillar (if you can hide away the wires) or put the tweeters on the left and right side of the dash. I have mine in the A/C outlets, but that's because I no longer have A/C

And behind the seat I have two small Boom Boxes for the Bass.
It Sounds alright to me, and that's all what counts

Cya,
Edmond

Willy Prost · 02-27-2004, 11:58 AM

My 71 didn't have a speaker in the dash when I bought it. It had a real old cheap cassette deck with two mismatched junk speakers, one laying on the passenger side floor and one wedged between the gun rack and the rear window.

For my first stereo revision I mounted (2) 4" coaxial speakers that I had leftover from some other unfinished project. The speakers were mounted on a 1/4 " scrap piece of plywood. I used some small pieces of foam carpet undelayment to wedge the compleated panel into the place between the cassette deck and the top of the dash. That worked rather well for no expenditure of money.

Last year I revised that front speaker install by replacing the (2) 4" speakers with (2) 4X6 inch JBL coaxial speakers. This time I mounted the speakers on a scrap piece of 3/8" plywood. This setup has better bass reponse than the (2) 4" speakers.

I feel that either of these installs would be better than a dual voice coil speaker or a pre-fabbed dual speaker set .

67chevemall · 02-27-2004, 12:04 PM

Just stick the magnet to the steel up behind there somewhere should do the trick!LOL

Blue Beard · 02-27-2004, 02:28 PM

Even harder to do with A/C to work around...

Willy Prost · 02-27-2004, 03:00 PM

Bluebeard is right , there isn't alot of room under the dash with A/C. The 4x6 speakers were put in when I installed an Old Air AC.
I have the center vent, but only one duct leading up to that duct. I'm not sure, but I think the stock AC has 2 ducts leading up to the center vent.

02-26-2004, 04:51 PM	#1
firemapper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California Posts: 13	Replacement speaker for stock location I am planning to replace the stock speaker. I am looking at the dual front speakers and the dual voice coil speaker from LMC Truck. Both fit in the original location, but I'm not sure if one is better than the other. Any input on which one is better or worse? Thanks for the help. __________________ 1967 C 20 Custom Camper

02-26-2004, 09:25 PM	#2
gr8scott51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 1,839	I have the dual voice coil speaker in my dash. I'm not happy with any of the Custom Autosound stuff that I paid way too much for. Scott __________________ Silence is golden, duct tape is silver. - Scott

02-26-2004, 09:36 PM	#3
firemapper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California Posts: 13	The Dual Voice coil speaker I am looking at is around $59. Is this what you paid? Is the sound bad, not clear, distorted? Does it give you the stereo sound that they advertise? Do you get good highs and lows? Thanks for the info. __________________ 1967 C 20 Custom Camper

02-26-2004, 09:42 PM	#4
gr8scott51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 1,839	Yeah, LMC sells the Custom Autosound stuff (probably marks it up). The sound is not full bodied. Sounds like the old stock am radio. Buy some good after market stuff and hack away to make it fit *IF* the music is important to you. scott __________________ Silence is golden, duct tape is silver. - Scott

02-26-2004, 10:36 PM	#5
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,831	I used twin speakers and made my own bracket to fit the stock location. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

02-27-2004, 01:20 AM	#6
Jeff M. Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Pixley, Ca. Posts: 487	I attached a pair of coaxial balplunk (sp?) speakers to my old speaker frame. They are 4" or so each. Tight fit with a/c but they solved the speaker problem. __________________ 69 C-10 CST Short Fleet, Factory Air, BB427-400 Auto-2400 stall-tilt-cruise-Tach & Vac Gagues, 4/6 drop, power one piece side windows, Eaton posi.

02-27-2004, 02:43 AM	#7
angelsairman Future Owner Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Grand Forks AFB, ND Posts: 151	When i first bought my truck from some farmer it had a small metal plate screwed to the dash in the center with about 5 feet of speaker wire running out of the bottom of the center console up to a 6X9 that was sticking to the metal plate via the magnet...HAHAHA but back to the subject at hand. I just bought some 3.5's and fabricated my own bracket for them..not to hard even for someone like me with limited fabrication skills.... attached it the pic of the "high end" sound system previously installed in my pickup..note the dash.... Attached Images __________________ Its not the end result that counts most...its the journey along the way that's most rewarding My truck doesn't leak, it just marks it's territory

02-27-2004, 04:21 AM	#9
SWEET7T Try spinnin 4 rear tars Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 757	you could get 2 3.5" speakers and get them up in the original location, but you will have to get creative to getting them to stay there. Like bolt a tab on each one together, then put them up there diagonal in the location. Make sense? (too late in the night for me) IMO I would go with a dual voice coil speaker. You will get better lows out of it, has a lot more surface area to move more air. If this speaker is your main source for noise, then get a dual voice coil setup. If you are adding other components, then get the 2 3.5", they will have better highs, and then you can depend on a sub for the bass. just depends on what your plans are... __________________ SWEET7T 1970 C10, 2wd, LB, 307/TH350/3.08. PS, PB

02-27-2004, 04:25 AM	#10
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,874	They sell these rubbery pieces you put behind the speaker to help direct sound, most stereo shop have them, try to patch the rubber piece behind the speaker unless you build a box for them. help direct the sound better. The direction for the rubber piece are the glue it to the sheet metal in the door behind the speaker.

02-27-2004, 06:05 AM	#12
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,874	lippy i know what you are talking about, it a plastic bucket that the speaker sit in so it can be protected from the elements. No, that is not what I'm talking about but that can help though. I'll find out tomorrow at work. But placing the speakers in a small wooden box would help direct sound alot more then just haven it bolted under the dash with straps.

02-27-2004, 06:28 AM	#13
Edmond Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,063	The problem is you don't have enough room for it to put in a small wooden box. Not under the stock location. Best thing to do is put in Kickpanel speakers, and place a pair of tweeters high on the pillar (if you can hide away the wires) or put the tweeters on the left and right side of the dash. I have mine in the A/C outlets, but that's because I no longer have A/C And behind the seat I have two small Boom Boxes for the Bass. It Sounds alright to me, and that's all what counts Cya, Edmond __________________ 1971 Chevy C/20 Longhorn, 350/TH400, Edelbrock Performer, IMPCO 425 LPG Carb 1974 Chevy Camaro Z28 (Original) ------------------------- The Netherlands

02-27-2004, 11:58 AM	#14
Willy Prost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 398	My 71 didn't have a speaker in the dash when I bought it. It had a real old cheap cassette deck with two mismatched junk speakers, one laying on the passenger side floor and one wedged between the gun rack and the rear window. For my first stereo revision I mounted (2) 4" coaxial speakers that I had leftover from some other unfinished project. The speakers were mounted on a 1/4 " scrap piece of plywood. I used some small pieces of foam carpet undelayment to wedge the compleated panel into the place between the cassette deck and the top of the dash. That worked rather well for no expenditure of money. Last year I revised that front speaker install by replacing the (2) 4" speakers with (2) 4X6 inch JBL coaxial speakers. This time I mounted the speakers on a scrap piece of 3/8" plywood. This setup has better bass reponse than the (2) 4" speakers. I feel that either of these installs would be better than a dual voice coil speaker or a pre-fabbed dual speaker set .

02-27-2004, 12:04 PM	#15
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Just stick the magnet to the steel up behind there somewhere should do the trick!LOL __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

02-27-2004, 02:28 PM	#16
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,831	Even harder to do with A/C to work around... __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

02-27-2004, 03:00 PM	#17
Willy Prost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 398	Bluebeard is right , there isn't alot of room under the dash with A/C. The 4x6 speakers were put in when I installed an Old Air AC. I have the center vent, but only one duct leading up to that duct. I'm not sure, but I think the stock AC has 2 ducts leading up to the center vent.



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