Ashtray difference between 67-68 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Warbones · 03-10-2004, 12:22 AM

On my 67 the ashtray is hard to remove and slightly lighter. On my 68 it removes easily(thanks to the ball bearings.67 has none) and is sturdier feeling. Also the fuse boxes are different. Is this right on both accounts?

Hutch · 03-10-2004, 10:57 AM

Warbones
Yes there are two different types of ash-tray slides, the ball bearing ones and the plastic ones. I am not sure what year the change was made.
My 71 has the plastic slides.
These are interchangeable though you will need to remove the tray and the receiver in order to do the swap.
I thought that the 67 had a different front on the tray but I could be wrong on this line of thought.
The only differences for the fuse box that I am aware of is when the change in E-Brake assembly's came about. The fuse box was moved to a different location on the firewall in order to allow more room for the foot operated pedal.
As always feel free to correct me if I am incorrect on these items.

**CPNE** · 03-10-2004, 11:15 AM

The 67 ashtray and bracket is it's own animal. It is slightly different in appearance. Another reason why 67's are so

Disclaimer: I'm sure someone has a 67 with the later style ashtray. This is GM, so entirely possible and likely.

Tim_Russo · 01-30-2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Warbones

On my 67 the ashtray is hard to remove and slightly lighter. On my 68 it removes easily(thanks to the ball bearings.67 has none) and is sturdier feeling. Also the fuse boxes are different. Is this right on both accounts?

Anyone know what size ball bearings those ashtrays use? 4 of them.

Tim_Russo · 01-30-2018, 11:57 AM

I have a 67 c10 short with ball bearings but mine are missing.

**special-K** · 01-30-2018, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim_Russo

I have a 67 c10 short with ball bearings but mine are missing.

That's a 68-69. I believe the '70s are same as 71/72. If not, 68-70. I could go out in the morning and check if no one has it for you.

Tim_Russo · 01-30-2018, 08:12 PM

If you could check ashtray to see if it has ball bearings. I just need to know what size so I can get them. thanks

**HO455** · 01-30-2018, 11:27 PM

The one in my garage that doesn't fit my 67 has what look to be 11/32" ball bearings.

Tim_Russo · 01-31-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HO455

The one in my garage that doesn't fit my 67 has what look to be 11/32" ball bearings.

Thanks so much. Now I can get that item checked off my list.

LH Lead-Foot · 01-30-2018, 02:33 PM

My 67 C10 came without factory A/C. My ash tray has plastic slides on the side and works fine, but the frame is spot welding in place. I was told by a retired GM field rep who was into the older C10's who told me there were two part number for the entire dash. The same was true with the bulkhead or firewall. One for A/C, and one without. If it was ordered with factory A/C, the ash tray with ball bearings could be an explanation as a bolt in frame may have to removed for service. I have seen online catalogs, like LMC, showing the ash tray frame sold separate. Also, the 67 came standard with a small rear cab window, but the large window was an option. In 68, it became standard.

Jim Boy · 01-31-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LH Lead-Foot

My 67 C10 came without factory A/C. My ash tray has plastic slides on the side and works fine, but the frame is spot welding in place. I was told by a retired GM field rep who was into the older C10's who told me there were two part number for the entire dash. The same was true with the bulkhead or firewall. One for A/C, and one without. If it was ordered with factory A/C, the ash tray with ball bearings could be an explanation as a bolt in frame may have to removed for service. I have seen online catalogs, like LMC, showing the ash tray frame sold separate. Also, the 67 came standard with a small rear cab window, but the large window was an option. In 68, it became standard.

My 68's ashtray came with ball bearing slides but was not equipped with A/C. I have since installed A/C and thank goodness the ash tray was removable. The designer of the under dash area was high on something when these trucks went into production or was only 18" tall. I always though that the cab could have been 6" longer and no one would have thought anything about it.

**Rods** · 01-31-2018, 09:21 PM

67 is on there own no plastic or ball bearings.

03-10-2004, 12:22 AM	#1
Warbones Navel Inspector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,373	Ashtray difference between 67-68 On my 67 the ashtray is hard to remove and slightly lighter. On my 68 it removes easily(thanks to the ball bearings.67 has none) and is sturdier feeling. Also the fuse boxes are different. Is this right on both accounts? __________________ 1948 Chevy Aerosedan GONE! I think. 1984 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham Coupe WANTED 1967 IMPALA 1967 CST C10 Long Bed with a 283

03-10-2004, 10:57 AM	#2
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	Warbones Yes there are two different types of ash-tray slides, the ball bearing ones and the plastic ones. I am not sure what year the change was made. My 71 has the plastic slides. These are interchangeable though you will need to remove the tray and the receiver in order to do the swap. I thought that the 67 had a different front on the tray but I could be wrong on this line of thought. The only differences for the fuse box that I am aware of is when the change in E-Brake assembly's came about. The fuse box was moved to a different location on the firewall in order to allow more room for the foot operated pedal. As always feel free to correct me if I am incorrect on these items. __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

03-10-2004, 11:15 AM	#3
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	The 67 ashtray and bracket is it's own animal. It is slightly different in appearance. Another reason why 67's are so Disclaimer: I'm sure someone has a 67 with the later style ashtray. This is GM, so entirely possible and likely. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

01-30-2018, 11:57 AM	#5
Tim_Russo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5	Re: Ashtray difference between 67-68 I have a 67 c10 short with ball bearings but mine are missing.

01-30-2018, 08:12 PM	#7
Tim_Russo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5	Re: Ashtray difference between 67-68 If you could check ashtray to see if it has ball bearings. I just need to know what size so I can get them. thanks

01-30-2018, 11:27 PM	#8
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 11,393	Re: Ashtray difference between 67-68 The one in my garage that doesn't fit my 67 has what look to be 11/32" ball bearings. Attached Images __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-30-2018, 02:33 PM	#10
LH Lead-Foot Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Omaha, NE. Posts: 214	Re: Ashtray difference between 67-68 My 67 C10 came without factory A/C. My ash tray has plastic slides on the side and works fine, but the frame is spot welding in place. I was told by a retired GM field rep who was into the older C10's who told me there were two part number for the entire dash. The same was true with the bulkhead or firewall. One for A/C, and one without. If it was ordered with factory A/C, the ash tray with ball bearings could be an explanation as a bolt in frame may have to removed for service. I have seen online catalogs, like LMC, showing the ash tray frame sold separate. Also, the 67 came standard with a small rear cab window, but the large window was an option. In 68, it became standard.

01-31-2018, 09:21 PM	#12
Rods Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,488	Re: Ashtray difference between 67-68 67 is on there own no plastic or ball bearings. Attached Images



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