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03-18-2004, 09:54 PM | #1 |
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14 bolt ff disk brakes
how is this done? what do i have to buy? we have a machine shop where i work so i can probably have the bracket made there.
does it have to be welded on or bolted on any info would be appreciated like where to ge calipers, rotors, dimensions on the bracket
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03-18-2004, 11:20 PM | #2 |
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I have disk brakes on my 14BFF. It is a super easy upgrade to do. You need brackets, hoses, rotors & calipers.
There are quite a few people out there selling the brackets, check Ebay....lots of them there. Check out Sky Mfg, they sell a pretty sweet set. I have an AutoCAD DWG of a 14BFF disk brake bracket that I got off of Pirate4X4 . I cannot verify the accuracy of the design though. I bought the hose kit from Az-Kickin. I then bought calipers and rotors for the front of a '77 K20 from Autozone. If you want to do some extensive reading on the subject, go to ColoradoK5 and search for "14BFF disk brakes" You will find more info there than you can read. Like I said, it was super easy, the parts that wear out are available over the counter and my brakes are MUCH improved.
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03-19-2004, 12:40 AM | #3 |
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You could also do a search on here. A couple other guys have done it also..
Plus you could check my sig for Blackbird's Custom Trucks web site
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03-19-2004, 01:08 PM | #4 |
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I did it using everything from a dana 44. Can get the spacer needed, or it can me made at a machine shop using aircraft aluminum. Mine uses the full backing plate from the front. I dont have a emergency brake. It can be had tho.......
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03-19-2004, 06:11 PM | #5 |
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i've got Sky brackets for mine, i believe they're the only true one piece brackets on the market.
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03-21-2004, 07:35 PM | #6 |
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Several things to consider. Cost always. Though safety first. The E-brake set will cost more but I will say this.
About three months ago I had a brake line explode on my driver. Was doing hiway speed and taking an off-ramp. I was able to not only stop but drive home on the E-brake. Made me decide to go with them on my 4 wheel upgrade.
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03-21-2004, 07:42 PM | #7 |
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i can make some brackets at work
buy some rotors, calipers and lines and it shouldnt cost more than 100 ish right. will half ton calipers work when i swap out the axles i could save them.. im not going to get much for half ton 3.08 crap anyway. i couldnt find any measurements at any of the websites pirate 4x4 had some for a weld on bracket but i think bolt on is the way to go.
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03-21-2004, 08:02 PM | #8 |
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ebrake calipers are quiet pricey but they can be had.....will d/l a pic of my brakes here in a little bit.
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03-21-2004, 10:38 PM | #9 |
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How close of a picture do you need???
Half ton brackets will not work. Like I said I am not always here to sell things so here we go.. NOTE: this is not how we build our kits, but how a do it yourself can.. Use 3/4 ton chevy front rotors you can re-use your brake caliper. You will need a 3/4 backing plates with a spacer Spacer size is I beleive for the backing plate setup around 3/4". Don't hold me to that measurement but it is close.. Here are a couple pics of my blazer with the 14 bolt setup Blackbird's does .. Excuse the mud
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03-21-2004, 10:43 PM | #10 |
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I would give you more detail but, of course that takes away from Blackbird's.. But if you look hard enough searching through google. you can get the same info I gave you..
These are without ebrake calipers... With the ebrake setup remember you will need a bracket to hook your emer line to..We sell those too And sorry guys I won't post any measurements or material of the kit on my blazer.. That is A Blackbird's kit.. good luck and hope I have helped a little..
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03-21-2004, 10:46 PM | #11 |
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I forgot to add. Please IMO do not use aluminum spacer..
We have swapped our kits on to trucks that original bought from a competitor.. they had aluminum. What a B!tch to get off. they were corroded, the bolts were allen head and stuck to the spacer.. Just my opinion
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03-21-2004, 11:22 PM | #12 |
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Here's mine
This is using everything from the front of a dana44 3/4 and a spacer.........
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03-22-2004, 08:10 PM | #13 |
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03-23-2004, 04:35 AM | #14 |
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Mine are different than those. Mine are attached with wheel studs. I can get a pic of the spacer if needed. Its a lot different too.
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03-23-2004, 12:52 PM | #15 |
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id like to see some more detailed pics of yours if you have em. when i was gonna use my 3/4 backing plate it required about 1/4 widening of the hole. did you have to do this? 69k5 |
03-23-2004, 02:07 PM | #16 |
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gonna be home the next two days from work so I will get you some pics and info.
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03-23-2004, 11:19 PM | #17 |
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Yes I believe the hole has to be made a little bigger and a notch cut in it. Gonna look for all my details. Here is a shot of the spacer I used. It is machined from aircraft aluminum.
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03-23-2004, 11:32 PM | #18 |
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Hey Mudder67 how did you attach the backing plate to that??
Like the ones I have for sale you can see where the 6 bolts go to hold the backing plate on.. I know they didn't have to widen the opening either.. How do yours hold on with wheel studs?? The spacers in my other post used allen head bolts to screww to the flange and if wanted you could put a lock nut on.. Its cool to see how many different ways people fabricate a kit up..
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03-23-2004, 11:36 PM | #19 |
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New holes have to be drilled into the backing plate. The hole may have not be enlarged, can't remember (I'm 50 now). Believe the wheel studs was used for clearance for the rotor and they don't turn when you tighten them.
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03-24-2004, 12:04 AM | #20 |
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Well i'm 29 with grey hair and I drink
Nice design.. And Again Very nice truck they are on..
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03-24-2004, 12:09 AM | #21 |
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Thanks.... I've had these brakes on for nearly 10 years now. The guys that came up with them got part numbers off a article in one of the mags using a magnifying glass. They have worked very well. Have thought of putting a line lock in the front brake line for an emergency brake but have heard they can leak off.
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03-24-2004, 12:20 AM | #22 |
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Yeah I would never go back to any drum brakes on any car or truck..
I've had Blackbirds on my blazer for 5-6 years.. I have heard that with line locks.. I would rather save and get a set of emer brake calipers and make my emer brake lines work.(not to hard of a job).. But I haven't found a reason to change yet..
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