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Vince Putt · 01-09-2005, 09:26 PM

I'm building a 67 SWB from the ground up. The floor is pretty much toast in the truck along with cab mounts. I have a long wheelbase frame in OK shape and a SWB frame that looks as if sandblasting might not save it. I'd also have to do a complete rebuild of the rear suspension including new trailing arms and coming up with a 5 X5 rear axle.

I also have an 85 SWB chassis complete pro street roller with ford 9" disk brakes custom made exhaust and an 85 cab totally rust free. The 85 frame won't be a bolt in to the 67 but if I used the 85 floor pan sectioned into the 67 cab I could be up good to go. I did some measuring of the two gutted cabs and all the measurements I took are very close so close it's scary.

The advantages are numerous the 85 frame is thicker, more rigid already setup with a and just need painting and detailing. I'd get dual saddle mounted fuel tanks. and a proven combination.

given the work involved in replacing and fitting all the oringinal floor on the 67 cab

Problems I see is that the wheelbases may be different 67SWB to 85 SWB.

That may mean that I have to remove the cab mounts and slide the cab forward or backward to center up the front wheelwell and or remount all the
rear suspension to center it the wheelwells.

So the question is am I nuts, should I seek medical help, Is there a doctor in the house? I'll lay on the couch study my drawings and await your answer

Chevyguy111786 · 01-09-2005, 09:40 PM

yes you are nuts....but aren't we all?? we put 20,000 into a truck cuz we didn't wanna spend 20,000 on a new truck.....lol

LUV2XCLR8 · 01-09-2005, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevyguy111786

yes you are nuts....but aren't we all?? we put 20,000 into a truck cuz we didn't wanna spend 20,000 on a new truck.....lol

AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH

Super Duck · 01-09-2005, 09:45 PM

if you can make it work go for it. you then get the best of both worlds. I say go for it.

Brainchild · 01-09-2005, 11:05 PM

It's all about doing what you want with the truck,and I say go for it,most of us would like to see the progress pics,and finished product.

Post lots of pics

Overdrive · 01-10-2005, 02:42 AM

hmm... stretching the cab for more leg room comes to mind for getting rid of the extra wheelbase.

... or you could always shorten the '85 frame the extra few inches (easier). I believe it's 115" WB for the '67 compared to 117.5" WB for the '85. Using the '85 frame, I suppose you have no choice but to do a floor swap (due to gas tanks and frame kickup location, which would be prety cool in itself.

GreyHoundSteve · 01-10-2005, 10:52 AM

Yes, you are nuts ..... but so are the rest of us. We wouldnt dump so much money into an old truck unless we were nuts so i say go on and be cRaZy so long as it doesnt hurt anyone. Now the day that your out of the street corner turning tricks for truck parts ...... its time to get help.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-10-2005, 11:03 AM

Maybe you could look for a solid cab and more solid frame?? I think there would be a lot of problems trying to mount everything, rad. support, cab, bed, on the 85 frame. First thing to check is the wheelbase. If they are the same, or really really close, and you like a lot of work....go for it! Also, if your going through all the trouble...I'd make it a bad A$$ 4x4

Benrs86 · 01-10-2005, 04:57 PM

i wouldnt be afraid to swap floors. also, 2.5 inches is not much. if you split the difference the front wheel would be 1 and a quarter inches forward towards the front of the wheel well and the back would be back the same. not very noticeable. im building a 66 dodge crew cab. the body is on a 89 dodge frame with a cummins deisel. to make the body swap easier i cut the firewall and first 2 feet of the floor off the 89 dodge cab. the four door cab went right over it and it worked amazing. kept all the same mounts, kept the 89 steering column and mounts, ac and heater box, outside air vents and everything. it worked very very good for me, so hopefully it will for you too.

*Randy70C-10* · 01-10-2005, 06:36 PM

Mudder's 67 is on a late model chassis. He'd be the guy to talk to.

JerseyGirl · 01-10-2005, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUV2XCLR8

AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH

LMAO! This site is full of em.......including me!!!!!!!!

So yes..........you are nuts!

LUV2XCLR8 · 01-10-2005, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyGirl

LMAO! This site is full of em.......including me!!!!!!!!

So yes..........you are nuts!

FORGIVE HER, SHE'S TWISTED

Vince Putt · 01-10-2005, 07:38 PM

I talked with Mudder about this project a few months ago. My original idea was to adapt the 67 cab and floor to the 85 chassis. After I got everything tore apart I realized it wasn't going to be an easly feat because the 85 chassis kicks up under the seat in the cab area. Mudder has a much easier conversion (not to belittle his conversion in any way) because he was building a 4WD he simply built a body lift to clear the obstuctions. Well Ok looks like I'm in a group of people that are as crazy as I am and It's time to break out the plasma cutter.

Brainchild · 01-10-2005, 07:53 PM

Well if you were within driving distance I'd be willing to come over and help.Sounds like a great project.

01-09-2005, 09:26 PM	#1
Vince Putt Hippy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kaska, pa Posts: 95	am I nuts? I'm building a 67 SWB from the ground up. The floor is pretty much toast in the truck along with cab mounts. I have a long wheelbase frame in OK shape and a SWB frame that looks as if sandblasting might not save it. I'd also have to do a complete rebuild of the rear suspension including new trailing arms and coming up with a 5 X5 rear axle. I also have an 85 SWB chassis complete pro street roller with ford 9" disk brakes custom made exhaust and an 85 cab totally rust free. The 85 frame won't be a bolt in to the 67 but if I used the 85 floor pan sectioned into the 67 cab I could be up good to go. I did some measuring of the two gutted cabs and all the measurements I took are very close so close it's scary. The advantages are numerous the 85 frame is thicker, more rigid already setup with a and just need painting and detailing. I'd get dual saddle mounted fuel tanks. and a proven combination. given the work involved in replacing and fitting all the oringinal floor on the 67 cab Problems I see is that the wheelbases may be different 67SWB to 85 SWB. That may mean that I have to remove the cab mounts and slide the cab forward or backward to center up the front wheelwell and or remount all the rear suspension to center it the wheelwells. So the question is am I nuts, should I seek medical help, Is there a doctor in the house? I'll lay on the couch study my drawings and await your answer

01-09-2005, 09:45 PM	#4
Super Duck Chevy Nuttttt Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Santa Maria Ca. Posts: 568	if you can make it work go for it. you then get the best of both worlds. I say go for it. __________________ 67' Chev swb step side 69' SS elky 03' Chev ext cab 4X4 hey who lernt me to spell is there anything else?

01-09-2005, 11:05 PM	#5
Brainchild Still drivin' a Rat Rod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 4,925	It's all about doing what you want with the truck,and I say go for it,most of us would like to see the progress pics,and finished product. Post lots of pics __________________ Rusty Member #13872 Instead of saying.....you are a discomfort in the back of my front.....one should be able to say...... you are a pain in the a$# 71 GMC LWB 49 Chevy 85 Chevy G20 Check out my website

01-10-2005, 02:42 AM	#6
Overdrive Sawzall User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The snow infested Prairies of Canada (aka: Winnipeg, Manitoba) Posts: 117	hmm... stretching the cab for more leg room comes to mind for getting rid of the extra wheelbase. ... or you could always shorten the '85 frame the extra few inches (easier). I believe it's 115" WB for the '67 compared to 117.5" WB for the '85. Using the '85 frame, I suppose you have no choice but to do a floor swap (due to gas tanks and frame kickup location, which would be prety cool in itself. __________________ '67 GMC 910

01-10-2005, 11:03 AM	#8
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Maybe you could look for a solid cab and more solid frame?? I think there would be a lot of problems trying to mount everything, rad. support, cab, bed, on the 85 frame. First thing to check is the wheelbase. If they are the same, or really really close, and you like a lot of work....go for it! Also, if your going through all the trouble...I'd make it a bad A$$ 4x4 __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

01-09-2005, 09:40 PM	#2
Chevyguy111786 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Garland, Texas Posts: 1,127	yes you are nuts....but aren't we all?? we put 20,000 into a truck cuz we didn't wanna spend 20,000 on a new truck.....lol

01-10-2005, 10:52 AM	#7
GreyHoundSteve Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: DFW TX Posts: 769	Yes, you are nuts ..... but so are the rest of us. We wouldnt dump so much money into an old truck unless we were nuts so i say go on and be cRaZy so long as it doesnt hurt anyone. Now the day that your out of the street corner turning tricks for truck parts ...... its time to get help.

01-10-2005, 04:57 PM	#9
Benrs86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Brandon, SD, USA Posts: 1,292	i wouldnt be afraid to swap floors. also, 2.5 inches is not much. if you split the difference the front wheel would be 1 and a quarter inches forward towards the front of the wheel well and the back would be back the same. not very noticeable. im building a 66 dodge crew cab. the body is on a 89 dodge frame with a cummins deisel. to make the body swap easier i cut the firewall and first 2 feet of the floor off the 89 dodge cab. the four door cab went right over it and it worked amazing. kept all the same mounts, kept the 89 steering column and mounts, ac and heater box, outside air vents and everything. it worked very very good for me, so hopefully it will for you too. __________________ Brandon, SD 69 GMC 1/2 ton 2wd wide long bed with wood 3 on the tree 350 engine 4 bolt main rv cam AIM = Alphray04

01-10-2005, 06:36 PM	#10
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Mudder's 67 is on a late model chassis. He'd be the guy to talk to.

01-10-2005, 07:38 PM	#13
Vince Putt Hippy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kaska, pa Posts: 95	I talked with Mudder about this project a few months ago. My original idea was to adapt the 67 cab and floor to the 85 chassis. After I got everything tore apart I realized it wasn't going to be an easly feat because the 85 chassis kicks up under the seat in the cab area. Mudder has a much easier conversion (not to belittle his conversion in any way) because he was building a 4WD he simply built a body lift to clear the obstuctions. Well Ok looks like I'm in a group of people that are as crazy as I am and It's time to break out the plasma cutter.

01-10-2005, 07:53 PM	#14
Brainchild Still drivin' a Rat Rod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 4,925	Well if you were within driving distance I'd be willing to come over and help.Sounds like a great project. __________________ Rusty Member #13872 Instead of saying.....you are a discomfort in the back of my front.....one should be able to say...... you are a pain in the a$# 71 GMC LWB 49 Chevy 85 Chevy G20 Check out my website

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