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Slonaker · 05-05-2005, 05:52 PM

Why couldn't you use your old exhaust manifolds? I will eventually be swapping out my '86 305 for a 350. I have been told both that I can and that I can't use the old manifolds. Since you have actually done this, I'm hoping you can give me a straight answer. I'm also hoping it will apply to me since there were changes between '86 and '87.

Slonaker

Low87 · 05-05-2005, 09:04 PM

The only reason I couldn't, or didn't, use my exhaust manifolds is because they were warped. I could have worked on them to make them fit, but it was a good excuse for headers.

79BIG10 · 05-05-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Low87

Brandon, new one already? More like 79BIGPIMPIN'! Yup, gonna need some BBQ soon.

Greg we haven't chatted in awhile. I've been with her for almost a year. The exwife been gone for about 2 years now.

MylilBowTie · 05-06-2005, 07:08 AM

Slonaker: It could be something with the six bolt / seven bolt heads difference possibly? I think its a 305 vs 350 thing with the cylinder heads.

Izzy · 05-06-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Low87

Thanks Izzy, not all of us sell out!

I'll let you know bigarmzz.

I didn't sell out, I bought in.

Izzy · 05-06-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Low87

Yup, gonna need some BBQ soon.

Lord knows you okies can't bbq anyway. My buddy took me to Budro's in Ardmore, worst BBQ EVER!!!!

LOHRTBT · 05-06-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Low87

Dave, how am I supposed to tell you to come help if you don't ever call back?

Brandon, new one already? More like 79BIGPIMPIN'! Yup, gonna need some BBQ soon.

Dont you mean 79MediumPimpin.. heehe! How is everything coming along B? After all your now a shrunk version of your past self!

Sorry Greg...damn man I have been slammed with getting the house ready..you understand that..you all went through that not long ago.

LOHRTBT · 05-06-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fiveeightchevy

Lord knows you okies can't bbq anyway. My buddy took me to Budro's in Ardmore, worst BBQ EVER!!!!

OMG!! Dont even get Greg and Me started on BBQ!! hahaha Damn there are ZERO bbq places in texas worth a nickel!!

B's BBQ on the other hand was excellent!

Izzy · 05-06-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LOHRTBT

OMG!! Dont even get Greg and Me started on BBQ!! hahaha Damn there are ZERO bbq places in texas worth a nickel!!

B's BBQ on the other hand was excellent!

You haven't eaten at Angelo's in Ft. Worth or North Main BBQ in Euless then.

Yeah I never got to taste any of B's BBQ.

Slonaker · 05-06-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MylilBowTie

Slonaker: It could be something with the six bolt / seven bolt heads difference possibly? I think its a 305 vs 350 thing with the cylinder heads.

Actually, that was the issue. Almost half the people say they are the same, almost half say they are different and incompatible. The few that are left say that they have different numbers of bolts, but work anyway.

I don't know what is right, but it sure would be nice to find out. New manifolds or headers and the changes to my exhaust sytem that it would require could increase the cost of the conversion by several hundred dollars, as low87 just found out.

Slonaker

Low87 · 05-06-2005, 12:50 PM

Izzy, TX BBQ is something nasty. After inviting us to the best BBQ in Dallas you have absolutely no argument. Unless that's just how water buffalo ribs are supposed to be. I guess you Texans need the jaw workout.

Low87 · 05-06-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slonaker

I don't know what is right, but it sure would be nice to find out. New manifolds or headers and the changes to my exhaust sytem that it would require could increase the cost of the conversion by several hundred dollars, as low87 just found out.

Slonaker

The Goodwrench block I got is the '91 version, there shouldn't be any difference between that and the '87.

BTW, 88-98 model headers will fit the block of an '87, but will not clear the frame. I tried some shorties and the dump right into the frame. Getting them to work would have meant notching the frame for the exhaust. Really blows too since I could have had some new ceramic coated headers cheap.

Low87 · 05-06-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MylilBowTie

Slonaker: It could be something with the six bolt / seven bolt heads difference possibly? I think its a 305 vs 350 thing with the cylinder heads.

Both my old '87 305 and the Goodwrench '91 350 had the exact same bolt setup for the intake manifold and exhaust manifolds. I've yet to see a difference anywhere on either long block.

Izzy · 05-06-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Low87

Izzy, TX BBQ is something nasty. After inviting us to the best BBQ in Dallas you have absolutely no argument. Unless that's just how water buffalo ribs are supposed to be. I guess you Texans need the jaw workout.

I never said that was the best BBQ, James did and personally I can't stand that place I had no choice.

Slonaker · 05-06-2005, 01:58 PM

My engine is weird one with a one piece rear seal like yours, but yet it still has the valve covers with four bolts around the perimeter like the early ones. Since you went slightly newer to several years newer than mine, I'm not sure how applicable your experience is to my situation. At first I had assumed that you went backwards, like I want to do, with the old (cheap) 350 with the 2 piece rear seal.

I'll keep reading and asking questions...

Slonaker

MylilBowTie · 05-06-2005, 03:16 PM

I had problems with the 6/7 bolt deal. The 84 305 that was getting replaced with a 76 350 the cylinder heads where different. The 84 was all stock so it had stock 84 305 log exhaust manifolds. Those manifolds were longer than the what was normally used for the 76 350 cylinder heads. So they installed an adapter plate that made the 84 exhaust manifolds bolt up and not leak. I still have that adapter so I can take pictures for you if you want to see what it looks like. For some reason the passenger side of the block was the only side to have that adaptor. If you want to make a separate post about this we can do that. Or if you want to PM me more about it. I figure another post would be better to help someone else that might be in the same position.

Sorry for stealing the tread Greg.

Everything looks really good with the engine bay all cleaned up.

Low87 · 05-06-2005, 04:09 PM

Yeah, watch it, I absolutely abhor hijacking threads!

Slonaker · 05-06-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Low87

Yeah, watch it, I absolutely abhor hijacking threads!

Speaking of hijacking, everyone knows Texas has the best BBQ!

Slonaker

79BIG10 · 05-06-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Slonaker

Speaking of hijacking, everyone knows Texas has the best BBQ!

Slonaker

Hell yeah we do but Oklahoma has the BBQ sauce though (thanks again Dave

)

Dave- I've lost 210 now since having the surgery. yeah it's pretty amazing. I went with the GF tonight and bought some new clothes. The shorts are only a 2X

05-05-2005, 05:52 PM	#26
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Why couldn't you use your old exhaust manifolds? I will eventually be swapping out my '86 305 for a 350. I have been told both that I can and that I can't use the old manifolds. Since you have actually done this, I'm hoping you can give me a straight answer. I'm also hoping it will apply to me since there were changes between '86 and '87. Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

05-05-2005, 09:04 PM	#27
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	The only reason I couldn't, or didn't, use my exhaust manifolds is because they were warped. I could have worked on them to make them fit, but it was a good excuse for headers. __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

05-06-2005, 07:08 AM	#29
MylilBowTie Right turn Clyde Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,911	Slonaker: It could be something with the six bolt / seven bolt heads difference possibly? I think its a 305 vs 350 thing with the cylinder heads. __________________ 1974 C25 LWB: 454 4bbl Carb / TH400 / 3.73 1992 Camaro RS 305 TBI Last edited by MylilBowTie; 05-06-2005 at 07:09 AM.

05-06-2005, 12:50 PM	#36
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	Izzy, TX BBQ is something nasty. After inviting us to the best BBQ in Dallas you have absolutely no argument. Unless that's just how water buffalo ribs are supposed to be. I guess you Texans need the jaw workout. __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

05-06-2005, 01:58 PM	#40
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	My engine is weird one with a one piece rear seal like yours, but yet it still has the valve covers with four bolts around the perimeter like the early ones. Since you went slightly newer to several years newer than mine, I'm not sure how applicable your experience is to my situation. At first I had assumed that you went backwards, like I want to do, with the old (cheap) 350 with the 2 piece rear seal. I'll keep reading and asking questions... Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

05-06-2005, 03:16 PM	#41
MylilBowTie Right turn Clyde Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,911	I had problems with the 6/7 bolt deal. The 84 305 that was getting replaced with a 76 350 the cylinder heads where different. The 84 was all stock so it had stock 84 305 log exhaust manifolds. Those manifolds were longer than the what was normally used for the 76 350 cylinder heads. So they installed an adapter plate that made the 84 exhaust manifolds bolt up and not leak. I still have that adapter so I can take pictures for you if you want to see what it looks like. For some reason the passenger side of the block was the only side to have that adaptor. If you want to make a separate post about this we can do that. Or if you want to PM me more about it. I figure another post would be better to help someone else that might be in the same position. Sorry for stealing the tread Greg. Everything looks really good with the engine bay all cleaned up. __________________ 1974 C25 LWB: 454 4bbl Carb / TH400 / 3.73 1992 Camaro RS 305 TBI

05-06-2005, 04:09 PM	#42
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	Yeah, watch it, I absolutely abhor hijacking threads! __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

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