The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-19-2006, 07:22 PM   #1
ChevyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 3,071
Auto crossmember question...help.

Well my trans is bolted to the bolt starter lines up perfect with the flexplate, so bolted that in. Started to slide the auto crossmember so it will bolt up with the 700r4 rubber pad bolt down area. I couldn't get those bolts to line up, need to losen my engine mounts and "handle it" or "persuade it a little...that shouldn't be a problem. What looks like a problem is holes in the frame for securing the Auto Crossmember??? Didn't look like any were going to line up and drilling while the cab is on??? How the heck did you guys do this???

Thanks

Alex
ChevyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 07:35 PM   #2
pugs
Registered User
 
pugs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hamburg Pa
Posts: 1,153
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

If I m not mistaken the 700r4 is abit longer then a 350 turbo so you may have to get it botled to the trans and somehow mark and drill new holes in the frame to get it buttoned up
__________________
I don't do thing cuz I can, I do it cuz someone told me it couldn't be done...
pugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 07:35 PM   #3
TugOwar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Pleasanton, TX
Posts: 1,723
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Yes, its the holes in the frame for bolting the crossmember. The tailshaft on the 700 is a bit longer than a th350 so the crossmember will be further back.

Bolt the trans mount up, square everything up and bore new holes in the frame to bolt the crossmember down.
TugOwar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 07:36 PM   #4
TugOwar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Pleasanton, TX
Posts: 1,723
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

oops, pugs beat me to it.
TugOwar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 07:38 PM   #5
ChevyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 3,071
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pugs
somehow mark and drill new holes in the frame to get it buttoned up

Can this be done with the cab on??? Who's done this step???

Alex

Last edited by ChevyDude; 05-19-2006 at 07:39 PM.
ChevyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 07:45 PM   #6
pugs
Registered User
 
pugs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hamburg Pa
Posts: 1,153
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

It can be done w/ cab on, after its all squared up like Tug said, and marked well enough, remove the crossmember and either use a right angle drill or take the hot wrench and burn a small hole and then drill them out for a clean hole I have all kinds of tricks like this over the years just take your time and it will all work out
__________________
I don't do thing cuz I can, I do it cuz someone told me it couldn't be done...
pugs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 09:06 PM   #7
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

in all reality, you don't really NEED those upper bolts. They haven't done a set up like that in 20 years.


Now, I'll assume the position to get flamed by everyone who thinks that if GM did it...then it has to be done that way. :flm:
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 09:22 PM   #8
powell72
Senior Member
 
powell72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Loveland Co.
Posts: 3,098
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

I did the uppers and lowers in mine, but Andy is right. The passenger side with the brake and fuel lines in the way is a pain even with a small right angle drill. They hit the chuck and make it difficult to get a straight shot.
__________________
Chris
74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s
99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s

http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html
powell72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 09:59 PM   #9
rage'nrat638
Account Suspended
 
rage'nrat638's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: ** THE FALL GUY **CHICAGO IL
Posts: 5,883
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

YUP PLACE A FLAT PIECE OF STEEL..between the frame and cab bottom.
when you drill out the upper holes and drill thru, you hit the plate not the cab bottom.
and andys right about trying to do it like GM did. GM did not put 700r's in these trucks.. thats why there are no holes that line up. they were not even made yet.
rage'nrat638 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 10:02 PM   #10
TugOwar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Pleasanton, TX
Posts: 1,723
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

I didn't put upper bolts in my crossmember. Don't see the need.
TugOwar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2006, 10:15 PM   #11
uncle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Conyers,Ga.
Posts: 7,288
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

If you can get it off the ground high enough, you can use a rrrrreeeeaaaalllll long bit. And again, not neccessary.
uncle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 12:52 AM   #12
ChevyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 3,071
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Thanks guys for the help and encouragement...This will be my weekend project: auto cross install
ChevyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 05:18 AM   #13
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Wow....so far no hate mail, no one contesting my statement... no ticking packages in the mail... Cool.
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 09:08 AM   #14
TugOwar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Pleasanton, TX
Posts: 1,723
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Its snail mail man, give it time!
TugOwar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 09:56 AM   #15
72MARIO
Registered User
 
72MARIO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada
Posts: 4,051
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

What I did was drill 2 new holes where the tranny mount blots to the crossmember. I used the existing holes in the frame to mount the crossmember.
__________________
1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017
1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck
1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck"
2005 TAHOE DD
72MARIO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 03:12 PM   #16
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

LOL Tug!
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 04:40 PM   #17
ChevyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 3,071
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Guess it might help if I had the engine was mounted on the right holes up front !!! Larry (Lemield) just came by with his nice green CST and I compared and took pics....I have the engine too far back. Ok project for tomorrow...move engine forward appx. 2".


F*#K.....I had it in the right spot all along...now I'm pissed...jeez....oh it's a learning experience isn't it!!!

Last edited by ChevyDude; 05-21-2006 at 03:33 PM.
ChevyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 07:51 PM   #18
ABHaulR
Registered User
 
ABHaulR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West Valley City, Ut
Posts: 311
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

i hpoe on your drive line you got a different yoke, the 350 yoke wont work.
__________________
72' GMC Suburban 10 1/2" of Lift, 40" Tires! Waiting for restoration
67' Chevy, What to do???
And Bad Ass American Bulldogs!
ABHaulR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 10:37 PM   #19
ChevyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 3,071
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Truck had a single driveshaft connected to a 3 on the tree trans. I don't know if the yoke is right? Driveshaft people are coming by to measure and pick up driveshaft for shortening ...we'll figure out the yoke at that point.

Last edited by ChevyDude; 05-20-2006 at 10:38 PM.
ChevyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 11:10 PM   #20
TugOwar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Pleasanton, TX
Posts: 1,723
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

Yoke that was in my th350 slid right into the 700, no problem.
TugOwar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 11:36 PM   #21
ChevyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 3,071
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

I'm going to be under the truck in the morning and will see if the driveshaft slides on the 700rf tailshaft...I'll let cha know tomorrow.
ChevyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 11:46 PM   #22
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

I thought the 700 had the 400 style yoke.... I KNOW the 200 4R has the Th350 style... but pretty sure the 700 doesn't.
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2006, 10:14 AM   #23
ChevyDude
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 3,071
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

The yoke on a tubro 350 is the same as the yoke on a 700r4...my trans was 3 on the tree...don't really know what it was. It was that way when purchased from the PO...350 engine 3 sp column shift.

Last edited by ChevyDude; 05-21-2006 at 10:14 AM.
ChevyDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2006, 11:12 AM   #24
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

cool, it's been so long since I have even considered the 700R4, I guess I had lost some of it's details.
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2006, 11:40 AM   #25
ABHaulR
Registered User
 
ABHaulR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West Valley City, Ut
Posts: 311
Re: Auto crossmember question...help.

i allways understood that the spline count on the 350 to the 700r4 where
diff, i know that the 2004r is the same as the 350. i've done that swap.
never did the 350 to 700r4.
__________________
72' GMC Suburban 10 1/2" of Lift, 40" Tires! Waiting for restoration
67' Chevy, What to do???
And Bad Ass American Bulldogs!
ABHaulR is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com