70 CST time capsule

[longhorn70gmc]

Outstanding Truck. Alot of good reference pics for the FAQ.
I didn't know they painted the wood in the beds. The One ton Duelly Longhorn I found had a painted bed but, I thought it was the PO whom repainted the truck and had the bed done to match. Good Info. Shows that you still learn a little something everyday. I think I still like the Non painted wood ones better.
Respectfully

[Longhorn Man]

Originally Posted by hugger69SWBCST

No Factory A/c? No Carpet Kick Panels? Uhhhhh!!!!!

I was suprised to see the non a/c on that truck honestly, however, the carpet kick panels...those were not factory, that's just the aftermarket. And, other than the wheels and tires, (in case you didn't read the listing) it is supposed to be all original.

[stllookn]

I am going with "very carefully repainted" but still an original truck. Those chalk numbers on the firewall are just way too bright for stock and 36 yr. old. I have seen too many on the firewall that are still there but really light or faded no matter how well the paint under the hood looks.

[Gray Ghost]

I found the 396 badged as a 400 odd. I thought they were either 396 or 402?

I also didn't knwo they painted the wood beds. That makes sense I guess. Orignal paint or not, it's a beaut and I'm sure it will go for big bucks with all the paperwork.

[Longhorn Man]

it isn't a 396.
After the end of the 69 model year, GM never built a 396 big block chevy gas engine again.
it was marketed as a 396 in the muscle cars, becouse it already had a kick ass reputation, but every single one of them was a 402.
Now, why they badged a 402 as a 400.... no one has ever been able to explain.

[Gray Ghost]

Ahhh...mystery solved, thanks.

[Huskerboy2]

Is that interior color sandalwood?

[cheyenne10]

Very, very clean truck. I think description stretches its original paint, etc. A couple small "whats ups" for me. Did our trucks ever come with dual exhaust new? Pedal pads on brake and e-brake not cst version. 36 yr old rubber bacnd still hanging? Come on this is a stretch (no pun intended). I would have to see that one personally. I deal in many old 30-50 yr old paper files and see old rubber bands all the time. They are at least brittle if not rotten. Granted the new ones only last a yr or 2 and older ones hold up better. With the condition of bare metal and no surface rust would mean this trukc had to stay so dry that its hard to believe.

I am not picking apart the product, I would love to own this one and put in my personal touches. My style is to tell all I know and let truck sell itself.

[Sheverlay]

I agree with others in that it at least looks mostly original. The only thing that really jumps out at me is the firewall markings...they do look a little too new, but who knows. Also, like others have said, just because it has overspray, doesn't mean it's not original. As far as I know, no trucks, or even cars had perfect paint jobs back then.

[Green Machine]

That is too nice ,too original. I couldn't drive it !!!!!!!! Needs to be put in a museum !!!

[Longhorn Man]

Originally Posted by cheyenne10

Very, very clean truck. I think description stretches its original paint, etc. A couple small "whats ups" for me. Did our trucks ever come with dual exhaust new? Pedal pads on brake and e-brake not cst version. 36 yr old rubber bacnd still hanging? Come on this is a stretch (no pun intended). I would have to see that one personally. I deal in many old 30-50 yr old paper files and see old rubber bands all the time. They are at least brittle if not rotten. Granted the new ones only last a yr or 2 and older ones hold up better. With the condition of bare metal and no surface rust would mean this trukc had to stay so dry that its hard to believe.

I am not picking apart the product, I would love to own this one and put in my personal touches. My style is to tell all I know and let truck sell itself.

Yes, there was a dual exhaust option.
Good eye on the pedal trim... I missed that personally.
A couple "whats ups" that grabbed my eyes;
the wrong radio knobs for a CST model
the mirrors on the doors... if I'm not mistaken, 70 model would have rectangular heads on those arms... not the old style round head. Plus the body color arm with a white head... dunno if it's right, but I've never noticed that in the past either.
The fact that the tailgate trunions are painted, but the stay lines are not grabbed my attention, but I don't know weather or not this is right or way off base.
The jack seems to show more wear than the whole truck... that grabbed my eyes
The chalk on the firewall is awfull bright, and I've always seen the model number on the passenger side, not on the dvr... but that couldjust be plant to plant variation.
Under the hood some items look too new while others look exsesively worn for the claimed miles and originality.
The radio antenna is on the wrong side of the cowl, and not the right style
The build sheet being removed from the seat cushion and the carpet tag pulled out seem odd, esp given the condition of them... looks liek they were removed on day one, and preserved in a climate controlled no humidity room of sorts.


None the less.... this DOES look to be pretty original, but maybe the claim of 100% minus rims is streaching it.

[Longhorn Man]

OK, the radio and antenna things.... there is no radio on the SPID label... however, it looks pretty correct and the papers look right... probably a dealer installed unit.

[HuggerCST]

Originally Posted by Huskerboy2

Is that interior color sandalwood?

Yes. My truck has the same interior, and I ordered sandalwood seat covers and door panels for it. Perfect match.

[Blue85]

even if it aint all original it is still pretty sweet and should bring good money

[HuggerCST]

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

OK, the radio and antenna things.... there is no radio on the SPID label... however, it looks pretty correct and the papers look right... probably a dealer installed unit.

You're probably right. My guess is that the motorola radios were dealer installed. I rescently bought a 72 with a AM Motorola radio, and the original owner swore that it came in the truck.

[Kager67]

That sucks! Sawyer is only a couple hours from my house, driven through there a hundred times. I wonder how long its been in NY and how it ended up there.

[toms68cst]

If I had the $$$ I'd bring 'er back home to her home state where she belongs!

Looks like the real deal to me. My wife from the area remembers the dealership in Minot.

I was wondering about the firewall markings too. Looks like someone brightened them up to bring them out. The overspray on the ash tray raised an eyebrow with me too. It's possible it's factory but I've never seen it.

A CST should have trim on all the pedals as mentioned.

Sweet truck on the whole. $18K sounds like a lot for a non AC, Non PS/PB. The BB/auto should help run the price up though.

[Solver]

I think it is a beautiful truck and worth every penny but the thing that grabbed me when I saw they said original is the glove box id tag
I have pulled tons of those off glove box doors and they all had a clear laminate over them. This one is missing pieces of the tag but seems to have the clear over it. Also thought it looked like someone burned the paper on one of those pic to give it that aged look

[wibilly]

looks to me like he's hurting for money. did you check out his other auctions!

[wibilly]

i had to go back and look again, the firs time i didn't notice any of the factory spot welds on the tailgate. i can see the ones in the center but along the edges the don't seem near as visable as on my take off GMC tailgate, mabe the orange just hides them better than the green

[Sheverlay]

Originally Posted by Solver

I think it is a beautiful truck and worth every penny but the thing that grabbed me when I saw they said original is the glove box id tag
I have pulled tons of those off glove box doors and they all had a clear laminate over them. This one is missing pieces of the tag but seems to have the clear over it. Also thought it looked like someone burned the paper on one of those pic to give it that aged look

I agree. All the paperwork, labels, etc. look to be original, but they just look to be in too good of condition for the age. Being paper, you would think they would have some sort of discoloring or wear to them. I guess the only way anybody will ever know, is if they take them to a lab and have them examined. If they aren't original, somebody knew their stuff, and did an excellent job of reproducing them.

[stllookn]

solver...that glove box SPID does look incredibly suspicious. I have one from an original '71 low mileage truck with the clear plastic over the top like you said. My '67 and '68 did not have that. There is no way that that SPID got burned liked that without doing some damage to the glove box door! FAKE!!!!!

[jc]

Originally Posted by wibilly

looks to me like he's hurting for money. did you check out his other auctions!

the person who listed this truck sells on consignment through ebay.
there not his vheicles at least most of arnt that i know of.
i have delt with him before (last Summer) ,very nice guy

And he has an excelant reputation with colletors and gets repeat customers with big money

i was bidding on a 72 swb stepper from him , the guy who beat me out paid $18,000 sight unseen (pics only), and the same guy baught a $30,000 harley the same day from the same guy

he sells very nice stuff takes great pics and lists it the best he posibly can



some one made a coment about the tires not lasting that long.
i still have the original tires from my 67 on the original rims and i put 200 miles on them last year before i swaped em out (yes they where a litt dry rotted but my truck was in a barn and not a good controled climate)
so i believe that they are original tires to
no let me go find a pick of my 70 gmc painted wood bed ,why because i havnt looked at it in over a week.

I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS A CARFUL REPAINT
with some intentional error such as stuff you would see from the assym. plant

[Bob B.]

Really nice truck, and so far probably worth the money, BUT: Sandalwood trim, but the SPID sticker says gold. Motorola radio is dealer installed, but why is the antenna on the wrong side? 10,000 miles and the tail pipes are rusted out? Possible, I guess. Good point about the factory writing on the firewall. I would have to see this truck in person, but it seems a bit odd. Like maybe it isn't really 100% original.

[JameslovesJammie]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't all steering columns painted black from the factory?

If I had the money, I would bring it home to ND (Sawyer is only 25 miles from Minot!)