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Old 07-09-2007, 01:36 PM   #1
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Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

Got a lil aggressive with the burnouts, and there goes 3rd and 4th! ooops!

So now Im trying to decide... Turbo 350 and a bigger tire (running 295/50/16 in the rear, 26.7 tall, would go to a 285/55/16 whick is 28.6 tall) or rebuild the 700. Cost is about the same, but this is my 3rd 700R4!!

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Old 07-09-2007, 01:38 PM   #2
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

If I had already bown up 3, I know I would be swapping it out to either Th350 or 400.
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:51 PM   #3
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

stop running stock 700r4 and get 1 that is built to take the torque.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:15 PM   #4
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

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stop running stock 700r4 and get 1 that is built to take the torque.
I agree.

I blew 2 TH350's and went to a 700R that was built for the abuse.

Got the Godfather from Maddog Trans and I couldn't be happier (so far anyhow).

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Old 07-09-2007, 03:15 PM   #5
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

Don't know what you had your last 700's built too... but in their original form *most* weren't meant to take much more than about 270HP-290HP and 300 ft-lb of torque, and some were mated to V8 motors with considerable less power than that.

My stock 80's 350 is probably only putting out about 220HP
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:16 PM   #6
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

If you aren't running an extra tranny cooler, that'll help kill them too, especially in the summertime. The later model automatic trannies are less heat-tolerant than the early PwrGlide/TH350/400s, so a supplemental cooler is a must.

Not adjusting the throttle valve cable correctly is another sure fire 700-R4 tranny killer. A few hours of homework and adjustment effort can save you lots of pain later. Your TV cable was adjusted correctly, wasn't it?

Next, the TH700 has a lower low (3.06:1 compared to 2.48:1) and a higher high (30%) higher in fact than a TH350/400. In other words going to 350/400 will hurt on both ends (off the line pickup and highway mileage/MPG). Still, those might be easier pills to swallow than a $2000 bill for a 3rd but decently built TH700.

Were it me, I still think I'd save my pennies and opt for the built TH700 and a tranny cooler.

PS: I've got a 700R4 built by Bowtie Overdrives behind my 450+HP 454. It's running fine for 3 years plus now, burnouts and all.

Let us know what you decide?
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:25 PM   #7
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If you aren't running an extra tranny cooler, that'll help kill them too, especially in the summertime. The later model automatic trannies are less heat-tolerant than the early PwrGlide/TH350/400s, so a supplemental cooler is a must.

Not adjusting the throttle valve cable correctly is another sure fire 700-R4 tranny killer. A few hours of homework and adjustment effort can save you lots of pain later. Your TV cable was adjusted correctly, wasn't it?

Next, the TH700 has a lower low (3.06:1 compared to 2.48:1) and a higher high (30%) higher in fact than a TH350/400. In other words going to 350/400 will hurt on both ends (off the line pickup and highway mileage/MPG). Still, those might be easier pills to swallow than a $2000 bill for a 3rd but decently built TH700.

Were it me, I still think I'd save my pennies and opt for the built TH700 and a tranny cooler.

PS: I've got a 700R4 built by Bowtie Overdrives behind my 450+HP 454. It's running fine for 3 years plus now, burnouts and all.

Let us know what you decide?
Again - I second that.
My 700R4 can readily hold 700HP, or it is just extra super overkill for street abuse and daily driving. It didn't cost me $2k either. (And I have the unlimited mileage 1 year warranty, etc.)

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Old 07-09-2007, 04:54 PM   #8
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

i agree with them about getting a built tranny i always try and get one rated for at least 50% more than i'm ever going to produce

alot of times the cheap turns out really expensive
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:10 PM   #9
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

Ive been thru three TCI Super Street Fighters...

Orange, a 700hp 700R4? Ok, Sign me up... Where do I find this for less than 2k?

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Old 07-09-2007, 05:32 PM   #10
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

stock r4's are junk with any extra horse power . you can get it rebuilt with all the stronger stuff for like a grand. I have cooked four stockers with just 375 horses.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:38 PM   #11
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

My 700R4 is rated to 550 hp....Monster Motor Sports.

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Old 07-09-2007, 08:39 PM   #12
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/highperflist.htm, his place builds some awesome transmisions.

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Old 07-09-2007, 09:53 PM   #13
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

for this kind of money just use a stock th400 and a gear vendor O.D. it will 4 sure hold up.....
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:51 AM   #14
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Re: Smoked the 700R4 this weekend

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for this kind of money just use a stock th400 and a gear vendor O.D. it will 4 sure hold up.....
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Sorry, but while I agree that the GVO/TH400 combo is super durable, it's also double the cost or more of a TH700 that's beefy enough to get most engines hooked to the ground reliably.

GVO's are about $2200 to $2500 just by themselves unless you're lucky enough to find one used somewhere.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:25 AM   #15
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Ive been thru three TCI Super Street Fighters...

Orange, a 700hp 700R4? Ok, Sign me up... Where do I find this for less than 2k?

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Well - I don't know if Mad Dog Transmissions changed names, or pissed his guys off or what, but this is the same thing I got:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy...QQcmdZViewItem

I bought it off his site, and spec'd out what shift I wanted, etc.
I got a "Stage 2 shift" which is pretty firm. It will definitely get your attention in 2nd (break loose).

Shipping was only an extra $200 or so for me at that time, so I still came in for less than $1600 I believe for the whole swap. This one has free shipping.

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