Motor mounts and steering finally done! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

PrerunnerRob · 08-13-2007, 01:14 AM

So I finally got the motor mount made, and the rack n pinion hooked up to the steering column. Here are some pictures:
My friend George tig welding my mounts

Freshly ground

Yes, everything clears!

Steering hooked up

Steering was super easy to connect to the original column too, I shortened how far the colum sticks out past the firewall to lessen the angle on the upper steering universal joint.

And...........I do AC for a living, so I had to have it!

PrerunnerRob · 08-13-2007, 01:17 AM

Oh, and thanks again to Chiefrocka for recommending the master cylinder I am using, bolted right up no preblem, set up for disc front and drum rear. Sweet!

L0WRIDE · 08-13-2007, 04:22 AM

nice work dude!!!

poorboy · 08-13-2007, 04:28 AM

Looking good.

**ChiefRocka** · 08-13-2007, 11:33 AM

Lookin good man...

...looks like you just might make it to the BBQ !!!!

You actually gonna run A/C...or are you pump'n air ??

John

PrerunnerRob · 08-13-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by poorboy

Looking good.

Thanks again for the AC stup, I am actually picking up all the r134a conversion stuff today.

PrerunnerRob · 08-13-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

Lookin good man...

...looks like you just might make it to the BBQ !!!!

You actually gonna run A/C...or are you pump'n air ??

John

A/C! I dont really care how fast this thing is to a certain degree, but I am going to spoil myself with a nice cool cab on hot days.
I have this guy for the air issue

I can't make it to the bbq, I found out it is on the same weekend that my friends wedding is on that I am in. Definately next time!

teejay65 · 08-13-2007, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrerunnerRob

Oh, and thanks again to Chiefrocka for recommending the master cylinder I am using, bolted right up no preblem, set up for disc front and drum rear. Sweet!

Hi,

I missed Chief's recommendation on the master cylinder...I have a 65 SWB..383/700R4...am converting to discs in the front, drums in rear...what do I need.

TeeJay

poorboy · 08-13-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PrerunnerRob

Thanks again for the AC stup, I am actually picking up all the r134a conversion stuff today.

No problem. I'm glad we were able to get it to you. Glad it's being used now instead of collecting cobwebs.

PrerunnerRob · 08-13-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by teejay65

Hi,

I missed Chief's recommendation on the master cylinder...I have a 65 SWB..383/700R4...am converting to discs in the front, drums in rear...what do I need.

TeeJay

Its from a 1974 Monte carlo, with manual brakes. Less then $50 including the core charge!

**ChiefRocka** · 08-14-2007, 12:10 AM

I still have the 74 GM master that I am not using...if anyone needs one...

John

**Chevy Fleetside** · 08-14-2007, 11:23 AM

You can use a master from a Truck also. They are pretty much all the same in the 70's. The bore's might be bigger in the trucks for more stopping power.. I used the whole power brake booster from a 79 GMC Truck with a master from a 75.. Some fab work is needed to use the later booster.. And if you look at the top of the bracket in the back, it would be nice to cut that off seeing you can't use it..

hewlett2002000 · 08-14-2007, 11:58 AM

chevy fleetside i like the way you ran your brake lines. any chance of some pics of the line routing closer to the front or even a description where they run in the front?
thanks,
John

**Chevy Fleetside** · 08-14-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hewlett2002000

chevy fleetside i like the way you ran your brake lines. any chance of some pics of the line routing closer to the front or even a description where they run in the front?
thanks,
John

Well seeing I took the truck apart I don't have the lines in place anymore. They just ran down to the porportioning valve. I was going to put the new one under the cab and run my lines back againts the firewall. I looked but didn't have a better picture of it then that...

I did a little searching and came up with this picture. It shows a bit more. I really would not advise running your brake lines like this as they could crack from moving around so much..

L0WRIDE · 08-28-2007, 12:49 AM

hey prerunnerRob hows the 63 coming on made any progress???

3speed 6cyl · 08-28-2007, 01:18 AM

clean fabrication work!

hewlett2002000 · 08-28-2007, 04:16 AM

i got a question....... why are you using the rack and pinion? i know nothing about it so im just wondering what the advantage is over stock or power steering. if thats a stupid question im sorry but i had to ask.
thanks,
John

**Chevy Fleetside** · 08-28-2007, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hewlett2002000

i got a question....... why are you using the rack and pinion? i know nothing about it so im just wondering what the advantage is over stock or power steering. if thats a stupid question im sorry but i had to ask.
thanks,
John

One thing about rack and pinion is it is more responsive then conventional steering.

PrerunnerRob · 08-28-2007, 11:05 AM

I have to use a rack and pinion due to the crossmember I built. I would have liked to retain the original stuff, but it would have never worked. I'm hoping to have most of my crossmember complete by this weekend, I'll post a ton of pics showing it.

hewlett2002000 · 08-28-2007, 11:16 AM

how much did it cost you and how much trouble was/is it to install? im actually designing a whole new suspension system front and rear for 64-66 trucks and maybe others later, but i hope you understand me not going into detail because i dont want my invention copied. i got it semi drawn out on paper but not completely. when i get it on paper im gonna have some of my hot rod buddies look it over. it will be a while before i build a prototype because of lack of funds.

PrerunnerRob · 08-28-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hewlett2002000

how much did it cost you and how much trouble was/is it to install? im actually designing a whole new suspension system front and rear for 64-66 trucks and maybe others later, but i hope you understand me not going into detail because i dont want my invention copied. i got it semi drawn out on paper but not completely. when i get it on paper im gonna have some of my hot rod buddies look it over. it will be a while before i build a prototype because of lack of funds.

Rack and pinion was $100 from ebay, and all the other materials were scrap from the local steel supply, i would say about $70 at most. Steering setup was around $170, and I still have to make steering adapters.. Good luck on the invention, I got my idea from mine from Porterbuilts. Mine is not nearly as pretty or refined, but is strong and safe.

Lemondrop63 · 08-28-2007, 12:06 PM

Those motor mounts are really nice. Real clean fab work.

PrerunnerRob · 08-28-2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemondrop63

Those motor mounts are really nice. Real clean fab work.

Thanks, its nice to get some appreciation for many hours of fabrication spent on small parts.

Stepside65 · 08-29-2007, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemondrop63

Those motor mounts are really nice. Real clean fab work.

Gotta agree. That is one nice set of mounts. Wish i could tig like that.

08-13-2007, 01:14 AM	#1
PrerunnerRob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Jose Posts: 847	Motor mounts and steering finally done! So I finally got the motor mount made, and the rack n pinion hooked up to the steering column. Here are some pictures: My friend George tig welding my mounts Freshly ground Yes, everything clears! Steering hooked up Steering was super easy to connect to the original column too, I shortened how far the colum sticks out past the firewall to lessen the angle on the upper steering universal joint. And...........I do AC for a living, so I had to have it!

08-13-2007, 01:17 AM	#2
PrerunnerRob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Jose Posts: 847	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! Oh, and thanks again to Chiefrocka for recommending the master cylinder I am using, bolted right up no preblem, set up for disc front and drum rear. Sweet!

08-13-2007, 04:22 AM	#3
L0WRIDE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,166	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! nice work dude!!! __________________ 49 CHEVROLET 1/2 TON, 52 CHEVROLET SEDAN 62 HARDTOP NOVA 65 CHEVROLET BB LWB FLEETSIDE 90 CHEVROLET EXTRA CAB CHEVY ONLY - NZ Chapter http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=137984

08-13-2007, 04:28 AM	#4
poorboy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oregon City, Or Posts: 758	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! Looking good.

08-13-2007, 11:33 AM	#5
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,150	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! Lookin good man......looks like you just might make it to the BBQ !!!! You actually gonna run A/C...or are you pump'n air ?? John __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

08-14-2007, 12:10 AM	#11
ChiefRocka Hollister, CA. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 6,150	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! I still have the 74 GM master that I am not using...if anyone needs one... John __________________ John What the Heck is that ?? CURRENT BUILDS: 62 BurbMaster Other Builds: My '63 C-10,LWB,CC,BBW '06 HD StrAight Axle Swap Father/Son '67 C-20, LQ9,4L80,Bagged,8-Lugger !!Good Friend Richard's Build AMERICAN CUSTOMS & CLASSICS (831) 630-1965 www.ACCHOLLISTER.com ACC on FACEBOOK "Rest in Peace, Mom & Dad ... I will see you again someday!"

08-14-2007, 11:23 AM	#12
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,782	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! You can use a master from a Truck also. They are pretty much all the same in the 70's. The bore's might be bigger in the trucks for more stopping power.. I used the whole power brake booster from a 79 GMC Truck with a master from a 75.. Some fab work is needed to use the later booster.. And if you look at the top of the bracket in the back, it would be nice to cut that off seeing you can't use it.. Attached Images __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536 Last edited by Chevy Fleetside; 08-14-2007 at 11:40 AM.

08-14-2007, 11:58 AM	#13
hewlett2002000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 1,619	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! chevy fleetside i like the way you ran your brake lines. any chance of some pics of the line routing closer to the front or even a description where they run in the front? thanks, John __________________ Respect: 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. When you fail to show consideration to others values you are showing disrespect.

08-28-2007, 12:49 AM	#15
L0WRIDE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,166	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! hey prerunnerRob hows the 63 coming on made any progress??? __________________ 49 CHEVROLET 1/2 TON, 52 CHEVROLET SEDAN 62 HARDTOP NOVA 65 CHEVROLET BB LWB FLEETSIDE 90 CHEVROLET EXTRA CAB CHEVY ONLY - NZ Chapter http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=137984

08-28-2007, 01:18 AM	#16
3speed 6cyl Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: tracy california Posts: 77	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! clean fabrication work!

08-28-2007, 04:16 AM	#17
hewlett2002000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 1,619	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! i got a question....... why are you using the rack and pinion? i know nothing about it so im just wondering what the advantage is over stock or power steering. if thats a stupid question im sorry but i had to ask. thanks, John __________________ Respect: 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. When you fail to show consideration to others values you are showing disrespect.

08-28-2007, 11:05 AM	#19
PrerunnerRob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Jose Posts: 847	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! I have to use a rack and pinion due to the crossmember I built. I would have liked to retain the original stuff, but it would have never worked. I'm hoping to have most of my crossmember complete by this weekend, I'll post a ton of pics showing it.

08-28-2007, 11:16 AM	#20
hewlett2002000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cleveland, Tx Posts: 1,619	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! how much did it cost you and how much trouble was/is it to install? im actually designing a whole new suspension system front and rear for 64-66 trucks and maybe others later, but i hope you understand me not going into detail because i dont want my invention copied. i got it semi drawn out on paper but not completely. when i get it on paper im gonna have some of my hot rod buddies look it over. it will be a while before i build a prototype because of lack of funds. __________________ Respect: 1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. 2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem. 3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation. When you fail to show consideration to others values you are showing disrespect.

08-28-2007, 12:06 PM	#22
Lemondrop63 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 109	Re: Motor mounts and steering finally done! Those motor mounts are really nice. Real clean fab work. __________________ This one time at bandcamp, in my c10, I ran over the girl hiding the flute! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=255141

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