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08-21-2007, 11:07 AM | #1 |
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GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Has anybody tried using this Big Block serpentine setup from GM Performance Parts in their 67-72 (GMPP #12498733)? I'm in the process of putting in a 502 crate motor in my 72 suburban (with dual A/C) and was thinking this may be easier than trying to scrounge up all the brackets, pulleys, etc. for a big block. Maybe even cheaper at the end of the day!
I'm kinda wondering if it'll be difficult to adapt the a/c compressor and the alternator. Probably have to use R134? I'm pretty sure I can get the power steering pump to work. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! |
08-21-2007, 11:19 AM | #2 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
The only thing better would be if GM made that set-up for a short water pump
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08-21-2007, 03:12 PM | #3 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
I put this set up on my zz4. It was very easy. The a/c lines will work, the power steering pump will need a cutom line made at local parts house cost me 35.00. other than that peice of cake. Looks clean and no more belt adjusting!
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08-21-2007, 03:58 PM | #4 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
I have it on my 402 in my jeep...
I switched out my steering box to use a later model Chevy box. Was easy, this is the incorrect belt routing... Last edited by FormerMember; 10-04-2007 at 06:32 PM. |
08-22-2007, 12:01 PM | #5 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Thanks guys, I think I going to go for it!
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08-22-2007, 03:55 PM | #6 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Watch the clearance for your radiator, the water pump pulley is super close with a long pump and the motor in the stock location. I kept my short water pump because of it.
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
thats the factory set up my engine came with. its a gen 5 454. it barely clears the rad. but its kick ass haha
here are some old pics
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08-23-2007, 05:55 AM | #8 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
I put it on my 502 with the factory kit(pump,alt,pwrsteering pump,compressor). Biggest issue I am still working on is the clearance issue to the rad no room for a clutch fan and no room for electric fans. Right now I have a 12" and a 14" electric in front of the air conditioner coils and a 16" flex fan(no room for anything bigger) on a 2" extender. I am trying to make up a fan shroud to funnel the air better to the flex fan.
I just swapped the valve on the new pump with the old pump and all of the hoses to power steering worked.
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08-23-2007, 06:46 AM | #9 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
It's exactly what i used on my ZZ454...
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08-23-2007, 07:37 AM | #10 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Well.. it's about half the price of the same getup from Vintage Air --
http://www.hotrodsusa.com/store/frontrunner.html At $900 to $1700 for these setups .. I think I'll scrounge on my budget but I can certainly appreciate why someone with deeper pockets for their project might go this way.
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Kfreddy, I Noticed You Used Newer Motor Mounts, What Type Of Exhaust Manifolds Or Headers Did You Use. Looks Like It Was A Tight Fit.
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08-23-2007, 10:38 AM | #12 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
I'm putting this on 4x4. It looks like you guys with tight fan/radiator clearance have 2wd. Doesn't the 4x4 engine crossmember sit farther back (2inches or so??) towards the firewall. So maybe no clearance issue on a 4x4??
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08-23-2007, 05:02 PM | #13 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Cant they dont make a reverse flow short pump, serpantine setups run the pump on the backside of the belt so it spins backward, plus why would you want a short anyway limited water flow, if you coming into this century with the serpantine why not use a pump from thios century, chevy stopped using them in the 70's for a reason
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
you can buy a conversion fitting from eaton for 4.50 at NAPA for this and keep your original line
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Where did you find a reverse flow short pump and how did that work since they pulley wouldn't line up with the others
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
Not "reverse flow" but "reverse rotation". The flow is the same direction as any old Chevy. Just to clear thing up.
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08-23-2007, 09:20 PM | #17 |
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
if you by the kit from gm performance it comes with it
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08-25-2007, 03:22 PM | #18 | |
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Still do they make a special pulley for short pumps? why would you want it due to limited flow capabilities? do they make a "reverse rotation" short style pump? again why why why? If your not going with a concours build why run the short pump and serpantine would be out of the question anyway
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Re: GM Perf. Parts Serpentine setup
A short style pump thats what Im talking about clay68c10 said he kept his short pump how is what Im asking I know the pump comes with the kit
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