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PushinPebbles · 05-19-2002, 04:34 PM

Does any body have any expeirences w/ them???

Do you think they would handle a BB car???

yesss im talking about in cars not truck

Jack

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Jack M. 14
67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 15x8 &15x10in corvette rallys slammed**hopefully bagged this summer**
88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4*having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires
69 SWB-parts
71 LWB-parts
72- LWB-parts
grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4*soon in audi silver*

SCOTI · 05-19-2002, 04:49 PM

They are factory installed behind the viper V-10(488ft/lbs) so 'yes' they will live behind a big block but that doesn't mean they're indestructable.

PushinPebbles · 05-19-2002, 04:54 PM

Do you mean the sam ones that are in the F-bodies? T-56s.........Jack

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Jack M. 14
67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 15x8 &15x10in corvette rallys slammed**hopefully bagged this summer**
88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4*having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires
69 SWB-parts
71 LWB-parts
72- LWB-parts
grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4*soon in audi silver*

Project1970 · 05-19-2002, 06:02 PM

Darn good transmissions. I don't know how Richmond sells those $3000 ROD 6-speeds when there's these for less than a third of that... I've seen specs on 'em such as 450lb/ft for 24 hours continuous...and they do install them behind the Viper, even in the new one with the bigger V10...

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Project 1970 - soon to be seen at http://milhouse.treylis.org:81/

SCOTI · 05-19-2002, 06:26 PM

Input & output shaft dimensions are the diff between GM's & Vipers. The new viper engines for '03 are same size as last years just tuned to squeeze more power. If you consider all that's needed to change to a T-56 the Richmond is comparetively priced since it doesn't require as many mods to install if you are already running a muncie or T-10 in an older car + w/the Richmond you can choose the ratios that best suit your combo, not so w/T-56's.

mikep · 05-19-2002, 06:43 PM

OK where can I buy a T56 for under a grand? I'll be on it now!

Jesse 67 c-10 · 05-19-2002, 09:51 PM

Think one of those could be swapped in to one of our trucks? Is there anything strange about them that would make the swap difficult? That would be a sweet tranny to have!
Jesse

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Near Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. 67 c-10, Long fleet, Newly swapped front disks, 5 lug rear end, 327 v-8 with Vortech heads, edlbrock performer rpm air gap manifold, 1406 carb and comp XE 256 cam. Backed by a getrag 5 speed and 1 piece driveshaft. Finnally running, almost driving! www.geocities.com/chevy67jesse

PushinPebbles · 05-20-2002, 04:41 PM

$3000.......$1000.......Hmmmmm thats alot.
I as wondering about stealing one from a wrecked F-body from the wrecking yard
in staunton (well i know the people
there,,, as well as the rest of my family)

Jack

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Jack M. 14
67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 15x8 &15x10in corvette rallys slammed**hopefully bagged this summer**
88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4*having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires
69 SWB-parts
71 LWB-parts
72- LWB-parts
grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4*soon in audi silver*
S/N=BIGGYTYME@aol.com

SCOTI · 05-20-2002, 04:53 PM

They require a diff clutch set-up: hydraulic pull instead of manual push which requires a hydraulic clutch mstr.cylinder & a certain flywheel + the usual yoke, driveshaft length adj's, & floorpan mods if necessary. Have you priced a good clutch for a late model lately...OUCH. Still would be a cool swap, just more work than the Richmond.

Project1970 · 05-20-2002, 07:05 PM

I've seen LT1s and T56's on eBay for under $2000 all the time. There doesn't seem to be many right now...getting one from a wrecked F-body is probably the best way to go. And why not take the LT1 too?

The clutches aren't that bad, really; stick with the GM ones, like the hybrid LT1/4 clutch we've got in our '94 Z28. One of the better ones you can get and also one of the cheaper ones.

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Project 1970 - soon to be seen at http://milhouse.treylis.org:81/

jmil1974 · 05-23-2002, 02:56 AM

If you search and are patient, you can get a decent one for a grand or so. Make sure it's from an LT1, LS1 trannies won't bolt up. Getting the matching engine IS the way to go, then the LS1 is viable. That's my plan in the next 2 years or so.

jflem3 · 05-23-2002, 07:15 AM

there is also what is called (the aftermarket T-56) which has a manual speedometer output ,rather then the electric from the production T-56. Lake wood makes a bellhousing for the t-56 that will allow you to use a standard clutch and flywheel and even a mechanical clutch release if you desire. I got my T-56 for $800 out of autotrader and I got the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, and hyd. slave cylinder.

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Jim
Ferndale, MI

69 camaro ss
71 c-20custom deluxe suburban
72 c-10base suburban
79-VW scirocco Gt-3 race car

jflem3 · 05-23-2002, 07:18 AM

also, If you have a monster big block you can have the viper mainshaft put in the production GM t-56's which bring them up to the 500ft# production rating.

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Jim
Ferndale, MI

69 camaro ss
71 c-20custom deluxe suburban
72 c-10base suburban
79-VW scirocco Gt-3 race car

05-19-2002, 04:34 PM	#1
PushinPebbles My dad's 68 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VA Posts: 444	Borg Warned T-56 6-speed Does any body have any expeirences w/ them??? Do you think they would handle a BB car??? yesss im talking about in cars not truck Jack ------------------ Jack M. 14 67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 15x8 &15x10in corvette rallys slammedhopefully bagged this summer 88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires 69 SWB-parts 71 LWB-parts 72- LWB-parts grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4soon in audi silver* __________________ Jack M. 67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 17x8in KMC's on michelins, clear tails and back up lights slammedUPDATE i have decided on my bag setup and will post further info when i recieve all the parts **************************** 88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires 4 12 inch Lightning Audios *************************** 87 silverado 3/4ton jacked up 10-12 inches black and rubberized bed coating 35 in michelans ************************** Dad's truck 68 C-10 stepside, 468 BB, tubbed, weld wheels, Nason black,lots more **************************** grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4soon in audi silver **************************** 84 toyota pickup 22R 5 speed 2WD slammed, shaved and all the body lines filled w/ buickGN scoop,bout to be sprayed in 2003 mustang green metallic w/ silver flames **************************** S/N=BIGGYTYME@aol.com (hydros) "No fat chics, truck will scrape"

05-19-2002, 04:49 PM	#2
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	They are factory installed behind the viper V-10(488ft/lbs) so 'yes' they will live behind a big block but that doesn't mean they're indestructable. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-19-2002, 04:54 PM	#3
PushinPebbles My dad's 68 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VA Posts: 444	Do you mean the sam ones that are in the F-bodies? T-56s.........Jack ------------------ Jack M. 14 67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 15x8 &15x10in corvette rallys slammedhopefully bagged this summer 88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires 69 SWB-parts 71 LWB-parts 72- LWB-parts grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4soon in audi silver* __________________ Jack M. 67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 17x8in KMC's on michelins, clear tails and back up lights slammedUPDATE i have decided on my bag setup and will post further info when i recieve all the parts **************************** 88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires 4 12 inch Lightning Audios *************************** 87 silverado 3/4ton jacked up 10-12 inches black and rubberized bed coating 35 in michelans ************************** Dad's truck 68 C-10 stepside, 468 BB, tubbed, weld wheels, Nason black,lots more **************************** grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4soon in audi silver **************************** 84 toyota pickup 22R 5 speed 2WD slammed, shaved and all the body lines filled w/ buickGN scoop,bout to be sprayed in 2003 mustang green metallic w/ silver flames **************************** S/N=BIGGYTYME@aol.com (hydros) "No fat chics, truck will scrape"

05-19-2002, 06:02 PM	#4
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	Darn good transmissions. I don't know how Richmond sells those $3000 ROD 6-speeds when there's these for less than a third of that... I've seen specs on 'em such as 450lb/ft for 24 hours continuous...and they do install them behind the Viper, even in the new one with the bigger V10... ------------------ Project 1970 - soon to be seen at http://milhouse.treylis.org:81/ __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

05-19-2002, 06:26 PM	#5
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	Input & output shaft dimensions are the diff between GM's & Vipers. The new viper engines for '03 are same size as last years just tuned to squeeze more power. If you consider all that's needed to change to a T-56 the Richmond is comparetively priced since it doesn't require as many mods to install if you are already running a muncie or T-10 in an older car + w/the Richmond you can choose the ratios that best suit your combo, not so w/T-56's. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-19-2002, 06:43 PM	#6
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	OK where can I buy a T56 for under a grand? I'll be on it now! __________________ No truck :-(

05-19-2002, 09:51 PM	#7
Jesse 67 c-10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 599	Think one of those could be swapped in to one of our trucks? Is there anything strange about them that would make the swap difficult? That would be a sweet tranny to have! Jesse ------------------ Near Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. 67 c-10, Long fleet, Newly swapped front disks, 5 lug rear end, 327 v-8 with Vortech heads, edlbrock performer rpm air gap manifold, 1406 carb and comp XE 256 cam. Backed by a getrag 5 speed and 1 piece driveshaft. Finnally running, almost driving! www.geocities.com/chevy67jesse __________________ Edmonton, Alberta, 67 c-10, Long fleet, front disks, 5 lug rear end, 327 with Vortechs, edlbrock manifold, comp cams XE 256, 600cfm carb. Backed by a getrag 5 speed and 1 piece driveshaft. 1993 Dihatsu Hijet Jumbo cab 4x4, currently converting to battery electric power.

05-20-2002, 04:41 PM	#8
PushinPebbles My dad's 68 Join Date: May 2002 Location: VA Posts: 444	$3000.......$1000.......Hmmmmm thats alot. I as wondering about stealing one from a wrecked F-body from the wrecking yard in staunton (well i know the people there,,, as well as the rest of my family) Jack ------------------ Jack M. 14 67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 15x8 &15x10in corvette rallys slammedhopefully bagged this summer 88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires 69 SWB-parts 71 LWB-parts 72- LWB-parts grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4soon in audi silver* S/N=BIGGYTYME@aol.com __________________ Jack M. 67 C-10 SWB 355 built T-350 tranny hurst shifter 17x8in KMC's on michelins, clear tails and back up lights slammedUPDATE i have decided on my bag setup and will post further info when i recieve all the parts **************************** 88 1/2 ton suburban 4x4 350/700R-4having a 9 in lift w/ 38 in tires 4 12 inch Lightning Audios *************************** 87 silverado 3/4ton jacked up 10-12 inches black and rubberized bed coating 35 in michelans ************************** Dad's truck 68 C-10 stepside, 468 BB, tubbed, weld wheels, Nason black,lots more **************************** grand dads truck 68 C-10 stepside fuel inj. 350/700R-4soon in audi silver **************************** 84 toyota pickup 22R 5 speed 2WD slammed, shaved and all the body lines filled w/ buickGN scoop,bout to be sprayed in 2003 mustang green metallic w/ silver flames **************************** S/N=BIGGYTYME@aol.com (hydros) "No fat chics, truck will scrape"

05-20-2002, 04:53 PM	#9
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,031	They require a diff clutch set-up: hydraulic pull instead of manual push which requires a hydraulic clutch mstr.cylinder & a certain flywheel + the usual yoke, driveshaft length adj's, & floorpan mods if necessary. Have you priced a good clutch for a late model lately...OUCH. Still would be a cool swap, just more work than the Richmond. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

05-20-2002, 07:05 PM	#10
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	I've seen LT1s and T56's on eBay for under $2000 all the time. There doesn't seem to be many right now...getting one from a wrecked F-body is probably the best way to go. And why not take the LT1 too? The clutches aren't that bad, really; stick with the GM ones, like the hybrid LT1/4 clutch we've got in our '94 Z28. One of the better ones you can get and also one of the cheaper ones. ------------------ Project 1970 - soon to be seen at http://milhouse.treylis.org:81/ __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

05-23-2002, 02:56 AM	#11
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	If you search and are patient, you can get a decent one for a grand or so. Make sure it's from an LT1, LS1 trannies won't bolt up. Getting the matching engine IS the way to go, then the LS1 is viable. That's my plan in the next 2 years or so. __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

05-23-2002, 07:15 AM	#12
jflem3 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Davisburg, MI. USA Posts: 124	there is also what is called (the aftermarket T-56) which has a manual speedometer output ,rather then the electric from the production T-56. Lake wood makes a bellhousing for the t-56 that will allow you to use a standard clutch and flywheel and even a mechanical clutch release if you desire. I got my T-56 for $800 out of autotrader and I got the flywheel, clutch, bellhousing, and hyd. slave cylinder. ------------------ Jim Ferndale, MI 69 camaro ss 71 c-20custom deluxe suburban 72 c-10base suburban 79-VW scirocco Gt-3 race car __________________ Jim Davisburg, MI 69 Camaro SS LT-1/6-spd 71 C-20custom deluxe burb 402/400 (gonna get back to it) 72 C-10base burb 350/3-spd 79-VW Scirocco GT-3 race car 2.0L/5-spd 02 chevy suburban LT Supercharged dropped on 22's

05-23-2002, 07:18 AM	#13
jflem3 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Davisburg, MI. USA Posts: 124	also, If you have a monster big block you can have the viper mainshaft put in the production GM t-56's which bring them up to the 500ft# production rating. ------------------ Jim Ferndale, MI 69 camaro ss 71 c-20custom deluxe suburban 72 c-10base suburban 79-VW scirocco Gt-3 race car __________________ Jim Davisburg, MI 69 Camaro SS LT-1/6-spd 71 C-20custom deluxe burb 402/400 (gonna get back to it) 72 C-10base burb 350/3-spd 79-VW Scirocco GT-3 race car 2.0L/5-spd 02 chevy suburban LT Supercharged dropped on 22's

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