A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

texanidiot25 · 03-22-2009, 11:48 PM

YouTube - Fast & Furious 4: '67 Chevy...

And check out this bad boy:

YouTube - Fast & Furious 4: Chevy Crew Cab...

*67/72junkie* · 03-22-2009, 11:55 PM

to cool!I like it!

sleepertruck72 · 03-23-2009, 12:06 AM

That truck is awesome !

Thanks for posting the video !!!

IvelDesigns · 03-23-2009, 12:33 AM

bad A-ass!!

enaberif · 03-23-2009, 12:36 AM

both those trucks are pure awesome!

bowtieboy93 · 03-23-2009, 12:55 AM

i want the seconds setup in the 67

both are killer!

bw4sale · 03-23-2009, 12:21 PM

Drool, drool, drool.

69halfton · 03-23-2009, 01:38 PM

wow i thought they were just crappy movie trucks, but what awsum haulers either of them would be.

love that 572 in the crew cab

ProStreet83C10 · 03-23-2009, 01:55 PM

too bad they didnt actually put a diesel in the 67......im not much of a gasser truck with stacks type of guy.

Beetle · 06-09-2009, 03:12 PM

So how could I make a replica of that 67? What is a ladder suspension, or would a 4 link like something from air ride work? And what kinda tires are on the back, looks to be big rig alcoa's.

BAGNDRAGIT · 06-09-2009, 05:32 PM

both are sick!!!!

Big J'72 GMC · 06-09-2009, 09:29 PM

gotta admit, got a copy from a buddy of mine, and as soon as I saw that '67 I squealed like a little girl, would love the crewcab to tho

**1971 GMC SHORTY** · 06-09-2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beetle

So how could I make a replica of that 67? What is a ladder suspension, or would a 4 link like something from air ride work? And what kinda tires are on the back, looks to be big rig alcoa's.

i helped build those trucks and gars got pictures...

**1971 GMC SHORTY** · 06-09-2009, 09:53 PM

ok heres some more

oldblue1968chevy · 06-09-2009, 10:01 PM

^^^^thats sweet man, i wish i could say to my buddys after they saw the movie

'i built that truck' lol man thats cool!!

**1971 GMC SHORTY** · 06-09-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

^^^^thats sweet man, i wish i could say to my buddys after they saw the movie

'i built that truck' lol man thats cool!!

The best is seeing your name in the Credits at the End of the Movie
Daniel Sanchez....

Beetle · 06-10-2009, 05:10 AM

Well Daniel you are the man I need to talk to once I get my truck. I have decided I am gonna do a replica of that truck, mines gonna have a 454/T400 in it, or if I can find me a 6.6 Duramax/Allison combo that's what I will do.

cadillacart · 06-10-2009, 07:44 PM

Amazing and creative work. I haven't seen that movie yet, now I will.

hicktownhotrodder · 07-10-2009, 03:59 PM

man, now i gotta build my ol chevy like that!

were did the alcoa wheel setup come from? ive been thinking about a super single setup on my truck but havnt figured out to make the ten bolt(or have eight bolts made OUCH) wheels work.

JohnC · 07-10-2009, 04:30 PM

Those are awesome trucks. Congrats Daniel on the work!

**gerfunken** · 07-10-2009, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beetle

Well Daniel you are the man I need to talk to once I get my truck. I have decided I am gonna do a replica of that truck, mines gonna have a 454/T400 in it, or if I can find me a 6.6 Duramax/Allison combo that's what I will do.

I stumbled onto a site where a guy is doing a durmax lb7 in his 72 k20...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...lbumId=2759020

Haven't seen his truck on this site......

hicktownhotrodder · 07-12-2009, 08:34 PM

Well that means that we need to make him a member so we can ask more questions

CSGAS · 07-12-2009, 09:46 PM

Beetle,

Shorty's second set of photos show the ladder bar setup.

In concept, a ladder bar suspension and a trailing arm setup (like our truck arms) are the same arrangement; consisting of links directly attached to the solid or live axle which moves up and down, some locating method to prevent side-to-side movement, and forward pivot mechanisms to connect the assembly to the chassis.

In application, ladder bars are generally used when higher strength is required ( note the hefty tubes) and usually get a straight forward-to-back geometry instead of being pointed towards the middle of the chassis at the front like our truck arms or "split wishbones" or other more "civilian" applications of the approach are.

Also, ladder bars end up usually welded to the axle instead of bolted (there are exceptions) and the most accepted locator is a diagonal "triangulation" bar running from the lower rear attachment point on one side all the way to the front pivot point of the other side; instead of a track bar.

This arrangement shows it advantages in straight-line driving, since independant movement of the left and right ladder bars is generally limited if possible at all. The geometry of the front pivot points works to aid transfer of weight to the rear axle area, to aid traction. As a general rule, the lower the pivot points are and the longer the bars are, the better.

If you are building a chassis from scratch or for a leaf-sprung ride that you intent to race or exhibit, ladder bars are a respectable setup. If you want a dual-purpose ride or you already have a truck-arm equipped ride, I'd suggest mods that make the truck arms behave like ladder bars instead since they can take a bump in the road on just one side of the truck, or turns, or...

...Mods like this include boxed or tubular bolt-on truck arms; with large hiem-joint, monoball, or custom bushed front pivots points; relocated front pivot points (many shops sell plates with slotted or multiple holes); adjustable coil-overs; a Watts-link setup instead of a triangulating bar (since street driving is the reason for my rambling) and downtubes from a roll cage to a point just above the axle to help the weight transfer go where it's supposed to.

For a (presumably) lightweight trailer queen, ladder bars would also need the downtubes and usually use coilovers. While it seems like they should be available to bolt into the stock truck arm mounts, that would cause binding and geometry that defeats the usual purpose of having full ladder bars. The truck-arm crossmember can still be used to mount the ladder bar pivot plates (which are also available with multiple holes for adjustments) further outboard for that straight alignment. A lot of study of your particular setup and creative engineering into the relationships is required to make sure the vehicle launches straight and hard. A drivetrain that shocks the chassis hard--like a transbraked setup--compliments this best. It's not as hard as jumping into four-links would be, and once you learn ladder bars you have a head start on understanding four-links at least for straightline acceleration. It's perfectly acceptable to need to rework it a couple times to get it right...as long as you don't kill yourself trying it out the first time!!! Have a mentor look at your particular application a few times throughout your installation and shakedown.

There are other uses for ladder bars, where strength is needed--heavy-duty trucks and some stunt cars, for example. I haven't seen FF4 yet, but I'd venture a guess the ladder bar-equipped truck had some high jumps or really rough obstacles to get over, or maybe a drifting skid that would have turned a truck arm into a pretzel.

Your local dragstrip pits on a bracket-racing weekend would be your best place to see ladder bar installations you would like, or some Nostalgia Gasser cars.

Hope you end up with whatever really makes you happy!

CSGAS · 07-12-2009, 09:49 PM

Ahh, yes...after two months of an opressive roommate, now everyone here finally gets a taste of what I'm really like...sorry for such a run-on rambling session!!! :-D

workinprogress67 · 07-28-2009, 04:01 PM

can you buy a rear window regulator to roll the window up and down or is that custom on the 67?

03-22-2009, 11:55 PM	#2
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IvelDesigns Commander Taco Bello Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 2,232	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 bad A-ass!! __________________ Bagged '50 3600 - Bumper punchin' road kill since 2009... Bagged '69 C10 Longbed - Bumper punchin' road kill since 2007...

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enaberif Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,181	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 both those trucks are pure awesome!

03-23-2009, 12:55 AM	#6
bowtieboy93 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: (Cloverdale) Surrey BC Canada Posts: 1,566	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 i want the seconds setup in the 67 both are killer! __________________ Travis travis_moffatt@hotmail.com 1969 Chevrolet C-10 LWB, 350c.i., TH350, In Pieces. 1991 GMC Sonoma, IROCS s10 grill 1963 Ford Galaxie 351/C4

03-23-2009, 12:21 PM	#7
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 Drool, drool, drool. __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half

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69halfton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: King City, Ontario, Canada Posts: 974	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 wow i thought they were just crappy movie trucks, but what awsum haulers either of them would be. love that 572 in the crew cab __________________ - Jason If you can turn, Youre not going fast enough. Favorite caption: first car to 200 mph in the 1/4 mile, no parachute, drum brakes all the way around.. ..back when men were men.

03-23-2009, 01:55 PM	#9
ProStreet83C10 Drag Racer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mason City, Iowa Posts: 1,276	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 too bad they didnt actually put a diesel in the 67......im not much of a gasser truck with stacks type of guy. __________________ Zach Hall 1983 Chevy C10 R/T: .194 60': 2.322 330: 6.379 1/8: 9.803 MPH: 71.37 1000: 12.781 1/4: 15.314 MPH: 88.79

06-09-2009, 03:12 PM	#10
Beetle Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 725	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 So how could I make a replica of that 67? What is a ladder suspension, or would a 4 link like something from air ride work? And what kinda tires are on the back, looks to be big rig alcoa's. __________________ Jason TEAM C10 HOT ROD POWER TOUR 689 Short Step 68 Step Trucks Sold: 70 GMC, 72 K5 Members met: Andy4639 GCncsuHD CSGAS zicc1835 hotrod farm truck Mingrao Bhelton brenthiggins

06-09-2009, 05:32 PM	#11
BAGNDRAGIT Just Not Low Enough! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 525	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 both are sick!!!! __________________ NEED ELECTRICAL HELP? ASK ME! 67-72 Full Wiring Diagrams Lots Of Info, TAKE A LOOK 1967 Chevy C-10 Shortbox Bagged 327 4spd Previous: 1971 Chevy C-10 Short Sep I6 Auto (Traded) 1973 Chevy C-20 THE REDNECK BATTLE TRUCK 2001 Chevy Silverado 2Dr 5.3L Shortbox. R.I.P. 1969 Volkswagen Bug This is my first meeting, I have a horsepower problem.

06-09-2009, 09:29 PM	#12
Big J'72 GMC Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Strathroy, Ontario, Canada Posts: 108	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 gotta admit, got a copy from a buddy of mine, and as soon as I saw that '67 I squealed like a little girl, would love the crewcab to tho

06-09-2009, 09:53 PM	#14
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oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 ^^^^thats sweet man, i wish i could say to my buddys after they saw the movie 'i built that truck' lol man thats cool!! __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

06-10-2009, 05:10 AM	#17
Beetle Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 725	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 Well Daniel you are the man I need to talk to once I get my truck. I have decided I am gonna do a replica of that truck, mines gonna have a 454/T400 in it, or if I can find me a 6.6 Duramax/Allison combo that's what I will do. __________________ Jason TEAM C10 HOT ROD POWER TOUR 689 Short Step 68 Step Trucks Sold: 70 GMC, 72 K5 Members met: Andy4639 GCncsuHD CSGAS zicc1835 hotrod farm truck Mingrao Bhelton brenthiggins

06-10-2009, 07:44 PM	#18
cadillacart 1972 C/20 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 273	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 Amazing and creative work. I haven't seen that movie yet, now I will.



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07-10-2009, 03:59 PM	#19
hicktownhotrodder Rollin Coal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnebago Illinios Posts: 131	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 man, now i gotta build my ol chevy like that! were did the alcoa wheel setup come from? ive been thinking about a super single setup on my truck but havnt figured out to make the ten bolt(or have eight bolts made OUCH) wheels work. __________________ I have three letters to all these import guys: God-Made-Chevy 04 GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax 1972 Chevrolet C-30 Dually Pickup stock? 350 SM465 four speed 1977 GMC K-35, TH-400, 4X4 450 horse 454(dad's) 1993 Dodge cummins 5-speed DEAD!!

07-10-2009, 04:30 PM	#20
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 Those are awesome trucks. Congrats Daniel on the work!

07-12-2009, 08:34 PM	#22
hicktownhotrodder Rollin Coal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnebago Illinios Posts: 131	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 Well that means that we need to make him a member so we can ask more questions __________________ I have three letters to all these import guys: God-Made-Chevy 04 GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax 1972 Chevrolet C-30 Dually Pickup stock? 350 SM465 four speed 1977 GMC K-35, TH-400, 4X4 450 horse 454(dad's) 1993 Dodge cummins 5-speed DEAD!!

07-12-2009, 09:46 PM	#23
CSGAS optomistic ah-so Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 544	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 Beetle, Shorty's second set of photos show the ladder bar setup. In concept, a ladder bar suspension and a trailing arm setup (like our truck arms) are the same arrangement; consisting of links directly attached to the solid or live axle which moves up and down, some locating method to prevent side-to-side movement, and forward pivot mechanisms to connect the assembly to the chassis. In application, ladder bars are generally used when higher strength is required ( note the hefty tubes) and usually get a straight forward-to-back geometry instead of being pointed towards the middle of the chassis at the front like our truck arms or "split wishbones" or other more "civilian" applications of the approach are. Also, ladder bars end up usually welded to the axle instead of bolted (there are exceptions) and the most accepted locator is a diagonal "triangulation" bar running from the lower rear attachment point on one side all the way to the front pivot point of the other side; instead of a track bar. This arrangement shows it advantages in straight-line driving, since independant movement of the left and right ladder bars is generally limited if possible at all. The geometry of the front pivot points works to aid transfer of weight to the rear axle area, to aid traction. As a general rule, the lower the pivot points are and the longer the bars are, the better. If you are building a chassis from scratch or for a leaf-sprung ride that you intent to race or exhibit, ladder bars are a respectable setup. If you want a dual-purpose ride or you already have a truck-arm equipped ride, I'd suggest mods that make the truck arms behave like ladder bars instead since they can take a bump in the road on just one side of the truck, or turns, or... ...Mods like this include boxed or tubular bolt-on truck arms; with large hiem-joint, monoball, or custom bushed front pivots points; relocated front pivot points (many shops sell plates with slotted or multiple holes); adjustable coil-overs; a Watts-link setup instead of a triangulating bar (since street driving is the reason for my rambling) and downtubes from a roll cage to a point just above the axle to help the weight transfer go where it's supposed to. For a (presumably) lightweight trailer queen, ladder bars would also need the downtubes and usually use coilovers. While it seems like they should be available to bolt into the stock truck arm mounts, that would cause binding and geometry that defeats the usual purpose of having full ladder bars. The truck-arm crossmember can still be used to mount the ladder bar pivot plates (which are also available with multiple holes for adjustments) further outboard for that straight alignment. A lot of study of your particular setup and creative engineering into the relationships is required to make sure the vehicle launches straight and hard. A drivetrain that shocks the chassis hard--like a transbraked setup--compliments this best. It's not as hard as jumping into four-links would be, and once you learn ladder bars you have a head start on understanding four-links at least for straightline acceleration. It's perfectly acceptable to need to rework it a couple times to get it right...as long as you don't kill yourself trying it out the first time!!! Have a mentor look at your particular application a few times throughout your installation and shakedown. There are other uses for ladder bars, where strength is needed--heavy-duty trucks and some stunt cars, for example. I haven't seen FF4 yet, but I'd venture a guess the ladder bar-equipped truck had some high jumps or really rough obstacles to get over, or maybe a drifting skid that would have turned a truck arm into a pretzel. Your local dragstrip pits on a bracket-racing weekend would be your best place to see ladder bar installations you would like, or some Nostalgia Gasser cars. Hope you end up with whatever really makes you happy! __________________ Rubbing is Racin' Ribbing is Bench Racin' 1970 C-10 lwb Fleetside. Originally 350 2-bbl 3-on-the-tree, m/b, m/w, m/s no a/c. Currently running on a '76 Camaro 305.

07-12-2009, 09:49 PM	#24
CSGAS optomistic ah-so Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 544	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 Ahh, yes...after two months of an opressive roommate, now everyone here finally gets a taste of what I'm really like...sorry for such a run-on rambling session!!! :-D __________________ Rubbing is Racin' Ribbing is Bench Racin' 1970 C-10 lwb Fleetside. Originally 350 2-bbl 3-on-the-tree, m/b, m/w, m/s no a/c. Currently running on a '76 Camaro 305.

07-28-2009, 04:01 PM	#25
workinprogress67 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Millers, MD Posts: 36	Re: A closer look at the 67 C10 in Fast and Furious 4 can you buy a rear window regulator to roll the window up and down or is that custom on the 67?

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