***HELP***Has anyone bought a new door for 73-87 chev truck lately - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

twistedmetal · 03-15-2003, 05:27 AM

Just wondering if anyone has bought a new authentic gm door.If so i would like to know the net weight off the shipping box.have came across some beautiful certified doors for 73-87 chev.have found that i can buy 6 of them for the price of 1 gm door and they fit great with no bodyfiller needed to smooth out the waves like the old reman's.they fall into the new manufacturing process ISO9002.but likely lighter weight though.if you have net weight for gm fenders to that would be great too,guys.just trying to figure out where a guy is losing on these aftermarket doors,they sound just like my gm ones when i tap on them.

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78SilveradoSWB · 03-15-2003, 01:42 PM

FYI: ISO 9002 is not a manufacturing process, but it is a Quality Management System recognized internationally. ISO 9002 is ISO 9001 less the the design control (engineering) section. Actually ISO 9002 standard expires this year, being replaced by ISO 9001: 2000 The ISO 9002 quality system does insure that there is controlled manufacturing process used in producing the part, but it does not necessarily guarantee that its a quality product. You only assured that in building the product, some written instructions were used, the person building it was trained, and some inspection or testing was done, hopefully in meeting or exceeding your quality expectations. This information comes from an experienced former Quality Manager.

twistedmetal · 03-15-2003, 02:02 PM

It still doesnt answer the big question of Oem door shell net weight.

78SilveradoSWB · 03-15-2003, 02:20 PM

Sorry, just wanted let it known what ISO 9002 was.

Hardrock2 · 03-15-2003, 02:41 PM

I'll have to agree with Mitch, ISO is no indication of quality,
or any reason to pay more over a non-ISO certified part.
Often times, you pay more, just for the company's cost
of ISO compliance, and certification.
When I'm not playing with old trucks, I do the winter months
in a ISO "certified" factory, and I can tell you first hand, ISO
is nothing more than a "Marketing Tool" that lets a company
compete in a global market. It simply means " We make our
products just as crappy as the next guy, only we do it consistently,
and to a more controlled degree!" Nothing more
than a "New and Improved" label,
much like the old dish soap commercials! JMO!
If you feel that the doors might weigh less than GM doors,
there's the first clue that they are thinner guage, and cheaper
built.

Thinner metal rusts through faster, and the fit
is usually poor also.
I know the price of new GM doors have skyrocketed in the
past few years, but .................
the 6 to 1 price ratio may be indicitive of the quality of these
doors, also.

Just my .02!

Mike

( FALL GUY!!!..........miss that show!!!!!!):p

03-15-2003, 01:42 PM	#2
78SilveradoSWB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 1,615	FYI: ISO 9002 is not a manufacturing process, but it is a Quality Management System recognized internationally. ISO 9002 is ISO 9001 less the the design control (engineering) section. Actually ISO 9002 standard expires this year, being replaced by ISO 9001: 2000 The ISO 9002 quality system does insure that there is controlled manufacturing process used in producing the part, but it does not necessarily guarantee that its a quality product. You only assured that in building the product, some written instructions were used, the person building it was trained, and some inspection or testing was done, hopefully in meeting or exceeding your quality expectations. This information comes from an experienced former Quality Manager. __________________ Mitch 1978 Chevrolet Silverado C 10 454 BB, TH400

03-15-2003, 02:02 PM	#3
twistedmetal Take it to the limit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 145	It still doesnt answer the big question of Oem door shell net weight. __________________ 1995 GMC SLE Ext cab 4X4 Z-71 loaded daily driver 87 k25 Fully Loaded inc captain buckets and console,12" susp lift,3" body lift 42"swampers 66 Cutlass 2dr hardtop currently undergoing frame off 55 chev 2dr hardtop awaiting attention 85 Chev silverado 1/2 ton loaded,daily driver(stolen) 80 chev silverado 1/2 ton farm truck 87 S-jimmy V-8,lowered ,Parting out 49 Chev 1/2 parting out parting numerous 73-80 chev trucks 01 Polaris edge X (highly modified) 58 NSU Prima scooter awaiting total restoration

03-15-2003, 02:20 PM	#4
78SilveradoSWB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 1,615	Sorry, just wanted let it known what ISO 9002 was. __________________ Mitch 1978 Chevrolet Silverado C 10 454 BB, TH400

03-15-2003, 02:41 PM	#5
Hardrock2 A$$ deep into trucks Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Central Illinois,USA Posts: 249	AGREED! I'll have to agree with Mitch, ISO is no indication of quality, or any reason to pay more over a non-ISO certified part. Often times, you pay more, just for the company's cost of ISO compliance, and certification. When I'm not playing with old trucks, I do the winter months in a ISO "certified" factory, and I can tell you first hand, ISO is nothing more than a "Marketing Tool" that lets a company compete in a global market. It simply means " We make our products just as crappy as the next guy, only we do it consistently, and to a more controlled degree!" Nothing more than a "New and Improved" label, much like the old dish soap commercials! JMO! If you feel that the doors might weigh less than GM doors, there's the first clue that they are thinner guage, and cheaper built. Thinner metal rusts through faster, and the fit is usually poor also. I know the price of new GM doors have skyrocketed in the past few years, but ................. the 6 to 1 price ratio may be indicitive of the quality of these doors, also. Just my .02! Mike ( FALL GUY!!!..........miss that show!!!!!!):p __________________ hardrock2

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