steering column diameter & spline count - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

eightbanger · 03-30-2009, 01:51 PM

Bought this from CPP http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/63-72...0744QQtcZphoto... And they have asked me this...."

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We need to know the spline count and shaft diameter of the output on the steering column and also the steering box".

Can anyone help me answer this, or tell me where the splines are that I can count, and where the output is so I can try and measure the diameter.

eightbanger · 03-30-2009, 04:01 PM

It's a 71 with power steering & tilt....are the splines in the rag joint?

gcburdic · 03-30-2009, 06:53 PM

Hello Nigel,

I believe you'll have to remove the intermediate steering shaft to get your spline count...here's a pic of the intermediate shaft.....you'll need to count the splines on the steering column and the splines in the steering box....I think?!?!?...hope this kinda helps Mate!

eightbanger · 03-30-2009, 06:56 PM

Thanks Geoff....your a pal. So is the intermediate shaft the flat sided one or is it the one that you have indicated in the second pic? I'm really dumb on this stuff.

gcburdic · 03-30-2009, 07:19 PM

Sorry Nigel....I meant to say...The intermediate shaft connects the steering column to the power steering box (so it's the whole shaft shown in pic 1)....So you would need to remove the rag joint at the pwr steering box first, then back the bolt off the collar at the steering column (as seen in the second pic) to remove....you'll need to wiggle it off....be patient!HA

eightbanger · 03-30-2009, 07:32 PM

Ok! I understand it better now. Getting that question from CPP threw me, the way they advertise it I thought it fit right on there...silly me for thinking things were that easy.
Thanks for your help mate.

gcburdic · 03-30-2009, 07:39 PM

Nigel,

I'd recommend getting a Factory Assembly manual too it looks like this....it runs $35-$40.....check with Wes I think he has some....
It has some very detail assembly pics that helped me out tremedously throughout my build!!!
By the way, how'd your transmission fix turn out??

eightbanger · 03-30-2009, 08:08 PM

I'll pick one up.
Got the trans back the other day...going to update my original post and you can see how it came out. Basicly £400 on a general revamp of the Trans & £200 on a new Torque Converter which converts to about $850.

**KevsClassics** · 03-30-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by eightbanger

Bought this from CPP http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/63-72...0744QQtcZphoto... And they have asked me this...."Can anyone help me answer this, or tell me where the splines are that I can count, and where the output is so I can try and measure the diameter.

Your truck should be 3/4" diameter & 36 spline.

eightbanger · 03-31-2009, 03:58 AM

Thank you Kev, i'm going to take it apart and have a look as well, it will need to come out in the end to fit the new one anyway.

DonLeverton · 02-29-2020, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcburdic

Hello Nigel,

I believe you'll have to remove the intermediate steering shaft to get your spline count...here's a pic of the intermediate shaft.....you'll need to count the splines on the steering column and the splines in the steering box....I think?!?!?...hope this kinda helps Mate!

Can you tell me what that intermediate shaft is off of?

I'm putting an early 70's G-Van column (3/4"-36 spline) into my 66 GMC.
The Steering box in my 66 is a Sagainaw 808 (3/4" - 30 spline) out of a 79 C20.
The intermediate shaft that came with the 79 looks just like yours, except it has a 1" DD at the top end of it, and a rag-joint coupling at the bottom end.

Yours looks like it's 3/4" - 36 spline at the top, rag joint at the bottom?
I really like that it's the collapsible style with the nylon pins.

Andy4639 · 03-01-2020, 10:42 AM

Here is my link to putting the tilt steering columns in my trucks. As stated 3/4" DD on the box end and 36 splines on the column end.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799703

Here is what I bought for the ramp truck.
Ensun 3/4"-36 Spline x 3/4" DD Nickel Plating Single Steering Universal U-Joint, Maximum Working Angle: 35° Degree, Total Length: 83mm (3-1/4")

03-30-2009, 04:01 PM	#2
eightbanger 454 MAKES IT ROAR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, U.K Posts: 2,701	Re: steering column diameter & spline count It's a 71 with power steering & tilt....are the splines in the rag joint? __________________ Nigel. An American living in a British body. 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 10 454 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson No more pain. 03.12.60 -- 12.28.10 http://www.youtube.com/Eightbanger

03-30-2009, 06:53 PM	#3
gcburdic Restoration Virgin! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 8,298	Re: steering column diameter & spline count Hello Nigel, I believe you'll have to remove the intermediate steering shaft to get your spline count...here's a pic of the intermediate shaft.....you'll need to count the splines on the steering column and the splines in the steering box....I think?!?!?...hope this kinda helps Mate! Attached Images __________________ Geoff with a G 1968 Chevy C10 SWB The Mistress 1972 Custom Deluxe C20 Suburban A Suburban Named Isabella 1966 Ford Mustang Mama's High School Graduation Present

03-30-2009, 06:56 PM	#4
eightbanger 454 MAKES IT ROAR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, U.K Posts: 2,701	Re: steering column diameter & spline count Thanks Geoff....your a pal. So is the intermediate shaft the flat sided one or is it the one that you have indicated in the second pic? I'm really dumb on this stuff. __________________ Nigel. An American living in a British body. 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 10 454 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson No more pain. 03.12.60 -- 12.28.10 http://www.youtube.com/Eightbanger Last edited by eightbanger; 03-30-2009 at 07:06 PM.

03-30-2009, 07:19 PM	#5
gcburdic Restoration Virgin! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 8,298	Re: steering column diameter & spline count Sorry Nigel....I meant to say...The intermediate shaft connects the steering column to the power steering box (so it's the whole shaft shown in pic 1)....So you would need to remove the rag joint at the pwr steering box first, then back the bolt off the collar at the steering column (as seen in the second pic) to remove....you'll need to wiggle it off....be patient!HA __________________ Geoff with a G 1968 Chevy C10 SWB The Mistress 1972 Custom Deluxe C20 Suburban A Suburban Named Isabella 1966 Ford Mustang Mama's High School Graduation Present Last edited by gcburdic; 03-30-2009 at 07:21 PM.

03-30-2009, 07:32 PM	#6
eightbanger 454 MAKES IT ROAR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, U.K Posts: 2,701	Re: steering column diameter & spline count Ok! I understand it better now. Getting that question from CPP threw me, the way they advertise it I thought it fit right on there...silly me for thinking things were that easy. Thanks for your help mate. __________________ Nigel. An American living in a British body. 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 10 454 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson No more pain. 03.12.60 -- 12.28.10 http://www.youtube.com/Eightbanger

03-30-2009, 07:39 PM	#7
gcburdic Restoration Virgin! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 8,298	Re: steering column diameter & spline count Nigel, I'd recommend getting a Factory Assembly manual too it looks like this....it runs $35-$40.....check with Wes I think he has some.... It has some very detail assembly pics that helped me out tremedously throughout my build!!! By the way, how'd your transmission fix turn out?? Attached Images __________________ Geoff with a G 1968 Chevy C10 SWB The Mistress 1972 Custom Deluxe C20 Suburban A Suburban Named Isabella 1966 Ford Mustang Mama's High School Graduation Present

03-30-2009, 08:08 PM	#8
eightbanger 454 MAKES IT ROAR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, U.K Posts: 2,701	Re: steering column diameter & spline count I'll pick one up. Got the trans back the other day...going to update my original post and you can see how it came out. Basicly £400 on a general revamp of the Trans & £200 on a new Torque Converter which converts to about $850. __________________ Nigel. An American living in a British body. 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 10 454 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson No more pain. 03.12.60 -- 12.28.10 http://www.youtube.com/Eightbanger

03-31-2009, 03:58 AM	#10
eightbanger 454 MAKES IT ROAR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, U.K Posts: 2,701	Re: steering column diameter & spline count Thank you Kev, i'm going to take it apart and have a look as well, it will need to come out in the end to fit the new one anyway. __________________ Nigel. An American living in a British body. 1971 Chevy Cheyenne 10 454 "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" - Thomas Jefferson No more pain. 03.12.60 -- 12.28.10 http://www.youtube.com/Eightbanger

03-01-2020, 10:42 AM	#12
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: steering column diameter & spline count Here is my link to putting the tilt steering columns in my trucks. As stated 3/4" DD on the box end and 36 splines on the column end. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799703 Here is what I bought for the ramp truck. Ensun 3/4"-36 Spline x 3/4" DD Nickel Plating Single Steering Universal U-Joint, Maximum Working Angle: 35° Degree, Total Length: 83mm (3-1/4") Attached Images __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

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