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MacAttack · 10-07-2009, 11:31 AM

Ah, now I get it - in the vertical more than 3 degrees is okay.

padresag · 10-07-2009, 12:26 PM

yes and it can be offset to the side at the same time, as in the pinion being offset to one side. the ujoints should be sync also with one another for it to work properly.
the same if you have bag suspension and you can raise and lower the car at a whim. the d/shaft compensates through the ujoints
simple things can be quite complex at times even if the same theory has been used now for over 100 years
ron

daverod · 10-10-2009, 12:08 AM

Been working on removing my 3 speed from my 64. I have it almost all the way out the problem is I can't seem to get it to clear the trans mount. It does come out the bottom right? I don't have to remove the trans hump do I? Are there any tricks to getting it out. I have removed the mounts. Can seem to get it the last inch?

ruffrida2005 · 10-10-2009, 12:25 AM

If you cant get it to clear the mount, take the mount out.

daverod · 10-10-2009, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005

If you cant get it to clear the mount, take the mount out.

I guess its not the mount it the cross member and its studded in not bolted. That would be to easy.

jgh64pkup · 10-10-2009, 09:44 AM

take out the crossmember i think thats what ruffrida was saying
just get an air chisel and pop the rivets off then replace them with grade 8 bolts

Strodder · 10-10-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod

Been working on removing my 3 speed from my 64. I have it almost all the way out the problem is I can't seem to get it to clear the trans mount. It does come out the bottom right? I don't have to remove the trans hump do I? Are there any tricks to getting it out. I have removed the mounts. Can seem to get it the last inch?

BFH, or do you have a Plasma Cutter.

Just kidding. I have no idea.

watahyahknow · 10-10-2009, 01:38 PM

eeehmm maibe loosen the cab and raise it of the mounts a little

daverod · 10-10-2009, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder

BFH, or do you have a Plasma Cutter.

Just kidding. I have no idea.

It's 64 Chevy not Ford.

I have a hard time believing I have to take the member out. I'm thinking just more time, more sweat clean some of the crap off it oh ya and a BFH.

Plasma for christmas.

daverod · 10-10-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

eeehmm maibe loosen the cab and raise it of the mounts a little

I was thinking that too.

We'll see I think I just have to turn it just right.

ruffrida2005 · 10-10-2009, 03:18 PM

Dave while you have a chance now I would take it out like Gage said and put grade 8 bolts back in it. I would do that to every crossmember. Makes it a lot easier to work on when you need to. Just make sure you use loctite and lock washers.

daverod · 10-10-2009, 06:03 PM

The tranmission is out. Taking it down tomorrow to see whats up. Came out easy when I took the bell housing off.

Guess I better do somthing to the clutch too, eh.

daverod · 10-10-2009, 10:41 PM

Do you think a 4 speed would be stronger than a 3 speed?

**Captainfab** · 10-11-2009, 12:08 AM

I've not had a 3 speed, but the SM420's and SM465's are pretty damn tough.
You still only have 3 forward gears that you use most of the time, but you have the low 1st gear for those times when you need that extra low gear for pulling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod

Do you think a 4 speed would be stronger than a 3 speed?

daverod · 10-11-2009, 02:08 PM

The 3 speed I have is a 344. I never pull anything so I don't think a 4 speed would be any better, unless it's a lot stronger. Most the time with a 4 speed you take off in second anyway.

Strodder · 10-11-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod

The 3 speed I have is a 344. I never pull anything so I don't think a 4 speed would be any better, unless it's a lot stronger. Most the time with a 4 speed you take off in second anyway.

You don't start out in 1st with these trannys. Your talking about a 4 speed transmission with a compound low.
http://www.nastyz28.com/chevy-manual...tification.php

daverod · 10-11-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder

You don't start out in 1st with these trannys. Your talking about a 4 speed transmission with a compound low.
http://www.nastyz28.com/chevy-manual...tification.php

I would'nt I start out in 1st?

What gear would I use?

Relax it's bezel time again.

Strodder · 10-11-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod

I would'nt I start out in 1st?

What gear would I use?

First is the first gear you start out in, then shift into second, then third, and finally shift into the 4th position. That is 4th

Strodder · 10-11-2009, 08:02 PM

Now if you can do that really fast you might churp the tires in second gear.

Strodder · 10-11-2009, 08:02 PM

I bet Gage can do it.

daverod · 10-11-2009, 08:03 PM

Did you say no beer? I was thinking just one might help to relax.

I'm getting pumped. Bezel ,bezel, bezel. I ewas thinkinh maybe two on each side one set hooked up to a cut out and the other to the mufflers.

jgh64pkup · 10-11-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder

I bet Gage can do it.

yep i can do it with an automatic too

with a shift kit of course

daverod · 10-12-2009, 09:24 PM

Started thinking about my front end parts. I want to get everything powder coated. I'm going with 2 1/2" dropped spindles and air bags. My cross member has been pancaked 1 1/2". Do you think I'll need to remove the rubber bumper and its bracket to lay frame. What about the shock mount location? Does this stay in the same location or will this also have to be moved? I'm also thinking about the steering. If I lay frame do I need to go with rack and pinion or can I do it some other way.

daverod · 10-12-2009, 09:48 PM

Found these pictures of some steering stuff and stuff. Ruff have you any of your rack and pinion?http://www.thehollisterroadcompany.com/rackpinion.html

ruffrida2005 · 10-12-2009, 10:05 PM

I think you will still have to cut off the bump stop, since it sticks up over a 1 1/2" Best thing to do is just put it together and ley it on the floor. And about the steering look at the post before mine. I've sent you those pics before!

10-07-2009, 11:31 AM	#851
MacAttack 283 Drama Queen Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Surf City, CA Posts: 2,435	Re: Daverods project 66 Ah, now I get it - in the vertical more than 3 degrees is okay. __________________ For about 12 years of my adult life I had a severe speech impediment. My ex-wife never let me get a word in edgewise.

10-07-2009, 12:26 PM	#852
padresag Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sidney,b.c. Posts: 4,425	Re: Daverods project 66 yes and it can be offset to the side at the same time, as in the pinion being offset to one side. the ujoints should be sync also with one another for it to work properly. the same if you have bag suspension and you can raise and lower the car at a whim. the d/shaft compensates through the ujoints simple things can be quite complex at times even if the same theory has been used now for over 100 years ron

10-10-2009, 12:08 AM	#853
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Daverods project 66 Been working on removing my 3 speed from my 64. I have it almost all the way out the problem is I can't seem to get it to clear the trans mount. It does come out the bottom right? I don't have to remove the trans hump do I? Are there any tricks to getting it out. I have removed the mounts. Can seem to get it the last inch? __________________ Daverods 64 C10 Daily driver 292 3 speed "Driver" Daverods 66 Build C10 Bags 350/350(On Hold) Daverods 52 Build 3100 S10 chassis,Bags, 350/700r4 "Click it" Last edited by daverod; 10-10-2009 at 12:08 AM.

10-10-2009, 12:25 AM	#854
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: Daverods project 66 If you cant get it to clear the mount, take the mount out. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

10-10-2009, 09:44 AM	#856
jgh64pkup Sunburst C10!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,560	Re: Daverods project 66 take out the crossmember i think thats what ruffrida was saying just get an air chisel and pop the rivets off then replace them with grade 8 bolts __________________ Gage 1967 C10 Shortbed Stepside

10-10-2009, 01:38 PM	#858
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Daverods project 66 eeehmm maibe loosen the cab and raise it of the mounts a little __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

10-10-2009, 03:18 PM	#861
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: Daverods project 66 Dave while you have a chance now I would take it out like Gage said and put grade 8 bolts back in it. I would do that to every crossmember. Makes it a lot easier to work on when you need to. Just make sure you use loctite and lock washers. __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

10-10-2009, 06:03 PM	#862
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Daverods project 66 The tranmission is out. Taking it down tomorrow to see whats up. Came out easy when I took the bell housing off. Guess I better do somthing to the clutch too, eh. Attached Images __________________ Daverods 64 C10 Daily driver 292 3 speed "Driver" Daverods 66 Build C10 Bags 350/350(On Hold) Daverods 52 Build 3100 S10 chassis,Bags, 350/700r4 "Click it" Last edited by daverod; 10-10-2009 at 10:41 PM.

10-10-2009, 10:41 PM	#863
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Daverods project 66 Do you think a 4 speed would be stronger than a 3 speed? __________________ Daverods 64 C10 Daily driver 292 3 speed "Driver" Daverods 66 Build C10 Bags 350/350(On Hold) Daverods 52 Build 3100 S10 chassis,Bags, 350/700r4 "Click it"

10-11-2009, 02:08 PM	#865
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Daverods project 66 The 3 speed I have is a 344. I never pull anything so I don't think a 4 speed would be any better, unless it's a lot stronger. Most the time with a 4 speed you take off in second anyway. __________________ Daverods 64 C10 Daily driver 292 3 speed "Driver" Daverods 66 Build C10 Bags 350/350(On Hold) Daverods 52 Build 3100 S10 chassis,Bags, 350/700r4 "Click it"

10-11-2009, 08:02 PM	#869
Strodder Daring to be Different Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 4,499	Re: Daverods project 66 Now if you can do that really fast you might churp the tires in second gear. __________________ *Dennis* Check out my 65/73 Cheap Build Thread. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=327644 *KUSTOM RIDES* FACE BOOK PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/291198124258863/ 1965 C-10 Short Bed 350/700r4 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2016 Honda Accord w/ 18" rims 2007 Honda Goldwing Trike w/ NAVI 2001 Yamaha Roadstar Indian look alike "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...WOW!...what an amazing ride!" Live Life Passionately!!! [/COLOR] *I AM WE TODD IT, I AM SOFA KING WE TODD IT* Last edited by Strodder; 10-11-2009 at 08:04 PM.

10-11-2009, 08:02 PM	#870
Strodder Daring to be Different Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hesperia, Ca Posts: 4,499	Re: Daverods project 66 I bet Gage can do it. __________________ *Dennis* Check out my 65/73 Cheap Build Thread. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=327644 *KUSTOM RIDES* FACE BOOK PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/291198124258863/ 1965 C-10 Short Bed 350/700r4 2012 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab 2016 Honda Accord w/ 18" rims 2007 Honda Goldwing Trike w/ NAVI 2001 Yamaha Roadstar Indian look alike "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...WOW!...what an amazing ride!" Live Life Passionately!!! [/COLOR] *I AM WE TODD IT, I AM SOFA KING WE TODD IT* Last edited by Strodder; 10-11-2009 at 08:04 PM.

10-11-2009, 08:03 PM	#871
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Daverods project 66 Did you say no beer? I was thinking just one might help to relax. I'm getting pumped. Bezel ,bezel, bezel. I ewas thinkinh maybe two on each side one set hooked up to a cut out and the other to the mufflers. __________________ Daverods 64 C10 Daily driver 292 3 speed "Driver" Daverods 66 Build C10 Bags 350/350(On Hold) Daverods 52 Build 3100 S10 chassis,Bags, 350/700r4 "Click it"

10-12-2009, 09:24 PM	#873
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Daverods project 66 Started thinking about my front end parts. I want to get everything powder coated. I'm going with 2 1/2" dropped spindles and air bags. My cross member has been pancaked 1 1/2". Do you think I'll need to remove the rubber bumper and its bracket to lay frame. What about the shock mount location? Does this stay in the same location or will this also have to be moved? I'm also thinking about the steering. If I lay frame do I need to go with rack and pinion or can I do it some other way. Attached Images __________________ Daverods 64 C10 Daily driver 292 3 speed "Driver" Daverods 66 Build C10 Bags 350/350(On Hold) Daverods 52 Build 3100 S10 chassis,Bags, 350/700r4 "Click it" Last edited by daverod; 10-12-2009 at 09:29 PM.

10-12-2009, 09:48 PM	#874
daverod SSN 706 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pocatello Idaho Posts: 3,821	Re: Daverods project 66 Found these pictures of some steering stuff and stuff. Ruff have you any of your rack and pinion?http://www.thehollisterroadcompany.com/rackpinion.html Attached Images __________________ Daverods 64 C10 Daily driver 292 3 speed "Driver" Daverods 66 Build C10 Bags 350/350(On Hold) Daverods 52 Build 3100 S10 chassis,Bags, 350/700r4 "Click it" Last edited by daverod; 10-12-2009 at 10:00 PM.



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10-12-2009, 10:05 PM	#875
ruffrida2005 Member of the longbed union. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Killeen, Tx Posts: 2,158	Re: Daverods project 66 I think you will still have to cut off the bump stop, since it sticks up over a 1 1/2" Best thing to do is just put it together and ley it on the floor. And about the steering look at the post before mine. I've sent you those pics before! __________________ Paul 88 GMC Crew Cab dually, 454/T400 64 LWB 400 HP 350/350T Bagged, under construction! Sold most of it! 92 S10 Iron Duke 5 speed, 5/7 drop for now. soon to be bagged. Sold http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...59#post4637759

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