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**70cst** · 12-03-2009, 10:01 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-...Q5fAccessories

Ok ... since no one has bid on this Grille I think I will but to me it looks like a 69 Grille verses a 70... Can someone verify of this is a 69 or 70 inner grille. GM part number is ... 3985056
Thanks in advance.

C20-67_N_MO · 12-03-2009, 10:08 AM

Why don't you ask the ebay seller to please verify by getting the part number off of it. I did not see it on the item description (could have over-looked it).

Thats a very good price for that item, so I would be questioning if it was the right part like you are doing, only do it towards the seller.

Just my advise.

Good luck.

Sammy · 12-03-2009, 10:22 AM

There is so little difference between the 69 n 70. Plus end of year 69's some had 70's. Plus very, very few could tell anyway. I'd say try to score it for a reasonable price.

**too much stuff** · 12-03-2009, 10:31 AM

Looks like a 69 to me without checking the part#...

72BlckButy · 12-03-2009, 03:18 PM

70cst ... Let us know what year this turns out to be. I'm needing a good '69 grille as mine has the '70 grille in it...

67ChevyRedneck · 12-03-2009, 03:58 PM

"Looks-wise" it's a 69, but I've read from a few people on here that GM got "cheap" (surprising, huh?) and after whatever number of years they quit offering the "proper" grill insert, and just sold the 69 as a 70. The seller is probably correct that it's a NOS 70, but it's still "wrong."

That seems cheap to me (assuming you haven't ruined it and now will be outbid by another board member

) but it seems cheap enough that I would buy it and use it to bargain someone for a nice 70 grill

**70cst** · 12-03-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C20-67_N_MO

Why don't you ask the ebay seller to please verify by getting the part number off of it. I did not see it on the item description (could have over-looked it).

Thats a very good price for that item, so I would be questioning if it was the right part like you are doing, only do it towards the seller.

Just my advise.

Good luck.

I have emailed the seller...as far as he knows its a 70 inner grille. Yes it would work in my 70cst but ... after a two year frame off I am not interested in a 69 grille in my 70 C10 ... It looks like a 69 to me also...that is why I have the GM part # ...

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-03-2009, 06:12 PM

Ok, please explain the difference in the 69 and 70 inners for us novice guys. Is it that the 69's had sfront painted silver?

67ChevyRedneck · 12-03-2009, 07:02 PM

On a 70 grill you can see the "recessed" area. The 69 grill has the full "eggcrate" look, which is what the ebay one looks like.

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-03-2009, 07:31 PM

Thanks for the info!

72BlckButy · 12-03-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

"Looks-wise" it's a 69, but I've read from a few people on here that GM got "cheap" (surprising, huh?) and after whatever number of years they quit offering the "proper" grill insert, and just sold the 69 as a 70. The seller is probably correct that it's a NOS 70, but it's still "wrong."

That seems cheap to me (assuming you haven't ruined it and now will be outbid by another board member

) but it seems cheap enough that I would buy it and use it to bargain someone for a nice 70 grill

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70cst

I have emailed the seller...as far as he knows its a 70 inner grille. Yes it would work in my 70cst but ... after a two year frame off I am not interested in a 69 grille in my 70 C10 ... It looks like a 69 to me also...that is why I have the GM part # ...

So, what's the verdict? '69 or '70?

**lolife99** · 12-03-2009, 07:55 PM

Looks like a '69 to me,...

But the auction has ended.

**70cst** · 12-03-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Hi, I have had three questions in regard to what year the insert is, therefore I ended the auction early so I can get all the correct info. I will more than likely relist on sunday afternoon. I have had the insert for years that I purchased from local GM dealer, have always thought it to be a 1970. I will get to the bottom before I list again. Keep watching for future listings. Thanks, Chris

He ended the action early because of questions to the year... Go figure?

unclewatts · 12-04-2009, 04:03 AM

You ever notice when you're going through the LMC Truck or Classic Parts catalogs that they list those inserts as "69-70"? Now I know that they are selling 69 grille inserts as 70's. And I bought one for my 70! I sure feel ripped off.

**70cst** · 12-04-2009, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewatts

You ever notice when you're going through the LMC Truck or Classic Parts catalogs that they list those inserts as "69-70"? Now I know that they are selling 69 grille inserts as 70's. And I bought one for my 70! I sure feel ripped off.

It is my understanding the 69 inner grilles are avaliable and the 70 inners are more scarce ...Then again I could be wrong.

72BlckButy · 12-04-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70cst

It is my understanding the 69 inner grilles are avaliable and the 70 inners are more scarce ...Then again I could be wrong.

And I thought it was the other way around...

**70cst** · 12-04-2009, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

And I thought it was the other way around...

Again...I'm not sure. This was discussed a while back and I forget what the concensus was ... Ok guys/gals...which grille is more scarce? 69 or 70 ... we want to know. Thanks in advance

boogie67 · 12-04-2009, 12:39 PM

I seen this grill and was gonna bid on it but the shipping to my zip was $134.To much for me lol.

**70cst** · 12-04-2009, 03:51 PM

Ok...the ebay inner grille is a 69 inner grille. If it goes back to auction ... I will not be bidding.

67ChevyRedneck · 12-04-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogie67

I seen this grill and was gonna bid on it but the shipping to my zip was $134.To much for me lol.

That's why it was so cheap

12-03-2009, 10:01 AM	#1
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,375	GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-...Q5fAccessories Ok ... since no one has bid on this Grille I think I will but to me it looks like a 69 Grille verses a 70... Can someone verify of this is a 69 or 70 inner grille. GM part number is ... 3985056 Thanks in advance. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

12-03-2009, 10:08 AM	#2
C20-67_N_MO Champagne Taste on Beer Budget Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: High Ridge, Missouri Posts: 2,190	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 Why don't you ask the ebay seller to please verify by getting the part number off of it. I did not see it on the item description (could have over-looked it). Thats a very good price for that item, so I would be questioning if it was the right part like you are doing, only do it towards the seller. Just my advise. Good luck. __________________ Coming Soon: Project 1970 Country Truck

12-03-2009, 10:22 AM	#3
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 There is so little difference between the 69 n 70. Plus end of year 69's some had 70's. Plus very, very few could tell anyway. I'd say try to score it for a reasonable price. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

12-03-2009, 10:31 AM	#4
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,768	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 Looks like a 69 to me without checking the part#... __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

12-03-2009, 03:18 PM	#5
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 70cst ... Let us know what year this turns out to be. I'm needing a good '69 grille as mine has the '70 grille in it... __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

12-03-2009, 03:58 PM	#6
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 "Looks-wise" it's a 69, but I've read from a few people on here that GM got "cheap" (surprising, huh?) and after whatever number of years they quit offering the "proper" grill insert, and just sold the 69 as a 70. The seller is probably correct that it's a NOS 70, but it's still "wrong." That seems cheap to me (assuming you haven't ruined it and now will be outbid by another board member ) but it seems cheap enough that I would buy it and use it to bargain someone for a nice 70 grill __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 12-03-2009 at 03:59 PM.

12-03-2009, 06:12 PM	#8
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 Ok, please explain the difference in the 69 and 70 inners for us novice guys. Is it that the 69's had sfront painted silver? __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-03-2009, 07:02 PM	#9
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 On a 70 grill you can see the "recessed" area. The 69 grill has the full "eggcrate" look, which is what the ebay one looks like. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 12-03-2009 at 07:03 PM.

12-03-2009, 07:31 PM	#10
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,139	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 Thanks for the info! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-03-2009, 07:55 PM	#12
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 Looks like a '69 to me,... But the auction has ended. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 12-03-2009 at 07:56 PM.

12-04-2009, 04:03 AM	#14
unclewatts 70 Chevrolet=Obsession Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nice ca Posts: 1,067	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 You ever notice when you're going through the LMC Truck or Classic Parts catalogs that they list those inserts as "69-70"? Now I know that they are selling 69 grille inserts as 70's. And I bought one for my 70! I sure feel ripped off. __________________ I'm Just like my truck. Old, Ugly and Grouchy. Except my truck starts easily in the morning and doesn't smoke! IT'S NOT EASY BEING GREEN! -Kermit the frog 1970 Chevrolet C-10 Longbed Stepside : 350, Muncie M20, 3.08 GM corp. positraction Forest green exterior/light green interior(Where all my money goes) 1996 Toyota Corolla (Parts runner)

12-04-2009, 12:39 PM	#18
boogie67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: waco tx Posts: 584	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 I seen this grill and was gonna bid on it but the shipping to my zip was $134.To much for me lol. __________________ 77 swb starting all over again.

12-04-2009, 03:51 PM	#19
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,375	Re: GM Inner Grille Part # GM part # is 3985056 Ok...the ebay inner grille is a 69 inner grille. If it goes back to auction ... I will not be bidding. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

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