ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

67ss&99ss · 01-23-2010, 08:27 PM

I have a 69 1/2 ton truck and I noticed that ECE sells 6 lug rotors. What do I need to purchase to put these on my factory manual drum brake truck? I noticed that they sell a conversion bearing kit as well. Does this mean that I can put the rotors on my current drum brake spindles?

dave2953 · 01-23-2010, 09:33 PM

I don't believe so. If I'm not mistaken they are designed to work with the spindles that Early Classic sells. It's much easier to get the a-arms, spindles, etc. from a 73-87 truck or 73-91 'burb and switch it over. All that stuff bolts to your original crossmember. Early classic sells the conversion kits, too Although they do cost some coin, they are top notch in terms of quality and customer service.

**lolife99** · 01-23-2010, 10:30 PM

The ECE 6-lug rotors will work with any spindle that is made for an 1-1/4 wide rotor up to 1987 with some exception.

They will work with:
1) 71-72 spindles
2) 73-87 spindles (only the 1-1/4 inch wide version)
3) 73-91 2wd suburban spindles
4) 73-82 2wd blazer spindles.
4) All 63-70 disc brake conversion aftermarket spindles
You will also need to change the master cylinder and porportioning valve.

**lolife99** · 01-23-2010, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ss&99ss

I have a 69 1/2 ton truck and I noticed that ECE sells 6 lug rotors. What do I need to purchase to put these on my factory manual drum brake truck? I noticed that they sell a conversion bearing kit as well. Does this mean that I can put the rotors on my current drum brake spindles?

Take a look at my build thread,...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=338655

I did the ECE rotors with a set of 71-72 disc brake spindles.

Some aftermarket 63-70 disc brake spindles would allow you to use the original '69 balljoints and tie rods.

I don't know of a 6-lug rotor that will work with drum brake spindles.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-24-2010, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99

I did the ECE rotors with a set of 71-72 disc brake spindles.

I don't know of a 6-lug rotor that will work with drum brake spindles.

I did the same. I have a 71 disc suspension under my 67. I bought a set of ECE 6 lug rotors and have been running them since late 2006.

I agree with the last statement, I don't think anyone has made any kind of "bolt on" kit. Most people buy new disc spindles because they want to lower the truck and get a disc brakes at the same time.

I'm not sure what the bearing conversion kit is for, but the drum spindles don't have any brackets or provisions to mount the disc brake calipers to.

**lolife99** · 01-24-2010, 04:48 PM

There is a company that makes a disc brake conversion using the drum spindle,... BUT it requires you to use a 68-72 chevelle rotors which is 5-lug and the 5x4.75 chevrolet car bolt pattern.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-24-2010, 05:16 PM

Didn't know that! What company is it? I'd actually like to see how they mounted the brackets.

**lolife99** · 01-24-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Didn't know that! What company is it? I'd actually like to see how they mounted the brackets.

Here you go:

http://www.ecklerstrucks.com/product...3&dept_id=1035.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-24-2010, 09:23 PM

Wow, if you can deal with the car pattern, that's less than half the cost of the ECE kit.

67ss&99ss · 01-24-2010, 11:24 PM

Thanks for the info. I have access to a 71-72 frame that has a complete disc brake setup on it. I'll just pull the complete cross member the next time I go up there. The frame also has a 5 lug rear end on it. Any idea what its worth? I notice a bunch of guys on the forums want them so that they can run five lug wheels. I just got a set of 6 lug rallyes for my truck so I don't plan on swapping to a 5 lug wheel.

72BlckButy · 01-25-2010, 09:44 AM

Just remember that the '71-72 rearends are wider than the '67-70.

67ss&99ss · 01-25-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Just remember that the '71-72 rearends are wider than the '67-70.

I knew there was some type of difference, but wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying. Any idea what it would be worth? I tried posting in the WIW section, but it says I don't have access to post there.

**lolife99** · 01-25-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ss&99ss

I knew there was some type of difference, but wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying. Any idea what it would be worth? I tried posting in the WIW section, but it says I don't have access to post there.

Yep,...
You have to be a subscribing member to post a "For Sale", "WTB", or "WIW" ad.
Just subscribe,... tack the extra $25/year subscription fee on to the price of your parts,... and you will have a free membership.
It's a great way to find/sell parts and "supporting the board" is a good idea anyway.

**NC67Chev** · 01-25-2010, 05:13 PM

I'm starting to think ahead on what I need to convert my 67 manual drum/drum to power front disc. I'm planning on keeping 6 lug. Anyway, I have a place that has plenty of front disc donors that I have access to. So, from what I'm reading, it sounds like it's possible to get everything from a donor and then add the 6 lug rotors from ECE. Is this correct? Thanks!

**70STOVEBOLT** · 01-25-2010, 05:42 PM

You will have to use the tie rod ends from the 71-72 truck as well IIRC.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-25-2010, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC67Chev

I'm starting to think ahead on what I need to convert my 67 manual drum/drum to power front disc. I'm planning on keeping 6 lug. Anyway, I have a place that has plenty of front disc donors that I have access to. So, from what I'm reading, it sounds like it's possible to get everything from a donor and then add the 6 lug rotors from ECE. Is this correct? Thanks!

Yes. I swapped the entire suspension from a 71 onto my truck, I used the crossmember and all. I then just swapped the 5 lug rotors for the ECE 6 luggers.

FlounderGDI · 01-25-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Yes. I swapped the entire suspension from a 71 onto my truck, I used the crossmember and all. I then just swapped the 5 lug rotors for the ECE 6 luggers.

67ChevyRedneck: Was that a direct swap or did you have to re drill any of the holes in the frame for the 71 crossmember? I'm in the process of trading a Camaro rear end to a guy for a 71 disc brake setup crossmember and all. Just looking for some insight on how difficult a project that will be.

72BlckButy · 01-25-2010, 10:19 PM

Should bolt right in for you... without any issues.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-25-2010, 10:19 PM

Bolt for bolt it's the same. When I was at the junkyard I also grabbed the steering box, all the lines (rust free SC truck) and the power booster/mc and proportioning valve. Not 100% sure, I'm a little fuzzy on this, but I think that if you use your old steering box, I think you may need a 71/72 pitman arm for it, but if you get everything off of a 71/72, it will all bolt up.

Deenice21 · 03-27-2011, 05:49 PM

so is there a kit that lets you keep your original 6 lug drum spindle and convert it to 6 lug disc? so kit would have caliper, rotors ect

1970C10truck · 03-27-2011, 06:55 PM

I have been considering the swap that uses the chevelle rotors and camaro calipers. One thing that bothers me is its an 11 inch rotor compared to the trucks 12 inch rotor. Being that my truck has front drums I would think that upgrading to disc would be a huge improvement even if they are smaller rotors. I haven't been able to find anyone with the conversation to ask how it actually works so I am waiting before I decide if that's how I want to do it. I want the car pattern for wheel choice and only use the truck as a street strip toy.
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cerjio · 03-27-2011, 09:10 PM

Guys dont forget to grab that Mastercylinder an powerbooster, also the proportioning valve

66-PMD-GMC · 06-24-2011, 10:43 AM

OK, I know this is an old thread but I hope someone knows...
WHO is ECE and where do I get JUST the 6 lug rotors that fit the 70-87 1 1/4" spindles???

**N2TRUX** · 06-24-2011, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deenice21

so is there a kit that lets you keep your original 6 lug drum spindle and convert it to 6 lug disc? so kit would have caliper, rotors ect

No, as mentioned above there is not kit that allows you to use drum spindles AND 6 lug disc. They only way to use your drum rotor is with the Ecklers kit and "it requires you to use a 68-72 chevelle rotors which is 5-lug and the 5x4.75 chevrolet car bolt pattern"

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC

....
WHO is ECE and where do I get JUST the 6 lug rotors that fit the 70-87 1 1/4" spindles???

ECE= Early Classic Enterprises -http://www.earlyclassic.com.

66-PMD-GMC · 06-24-2011, 11:27 AM

OK, thanks for the info on ECE.
No, I don't want to keep the original spindles, I have a 5 lug 73-87 setup on my 63 and I want the 1-1/4" 6 lug rotors so I can keep my 6 lug wheels.
Thanks

01-23-2010, 08:27 PM	#1
67ss&99ss Andy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, GA Posts: 225	ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? I have a 69 1/2 ton truck and I noticed that ECE sells 6 lug rotors. What do I need to purchase to put these on my factory manual drum brake truck? I noticed that they sell a conversion bearing kit as well. Does this mean that I can put the rotors on my current drum brake spindles? __________________ 1967 Camaro SS 406\|522hp/514ft lbs\|M20 Muncie\|3.73s\|Posi 1969 CST/10 383\|Aisin AR5 5 speed 1972 K5 350\|Turbo 350 4x4 2005 Duramax 2500HD 4x4

01-23-2010, 09:33 PM	#2
dave2953 Dave's not here, man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Winder, Georgia Posts: 2,000	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? I don't believe so. If I'm not mistaken they are designed to work with the spindles that Early Classic sells. It's much easier to get the a-arms, spindles, etc. from a 73-87 truck or 73-91 'burb and switch it over. All that stuff bolts to your original crossmember. Early classic sells the conversion kits, too Although they do cost some coin, they are top notch in terms of quality and customer service. __________________ - 2014 VW Jetta - 2015 VW Jetta - 1966 Ford F-250 Last edited by dave2953; 01-23-2010 at 09:36 PM.

01-23-2010, 10:30 PM	#3
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? The ECE 6-lug rotors will work with any spindle that is made for an 1-1/4 wide rotor up to 1987 with some exception. They will work with: 1) 71-72 spindles 2) 73-87 spindles (only the 1-1/4 inch wide version) 3) 73-91 2wd suburban spindles 4) 73-82 2wd blazer spindles. 4) All 63-70 disc brake conversion aftermarket spindles You will also need to change the master cylinder and porportioning valve.

01-24-2010, 04:48 PM	#6
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? There is a company that makes a disc brake conversion using the drum spindle,... BUT it requires you to use a 68-72 chevelle rotors which is 5-lug and the 5x4.75 chevrolet car bolt pattern.

01-24-2010, 05:16 PM	#7
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? Didn't know that! What company is it? I'd actually like to see how they mounted the brackets. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

01-24-2010, 09:23 PM	#9
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? Wow, if you can deal with the car pattern, that's less than half the cost of the ECE kit. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

01-24-2010, 11:24 PM	#10
67ss&99ss Andy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, GA Posts: 225	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? Thanks for the info. I have access to a 71-72 frame that has a complete disc brake setup on it. I'll just pull the complete cross member the next time I go up there. The frame also has a 5 lug rear end on it. Any idea what its worth? I notice a bunch of guys on the forums want them so that they can run five lug wheels. I just got a set of 6 lug rallyes for my truck so I don't plan on swapping to a 5 lug wheel. __________________ 1967 Camaro SS 406\|522hp/514ft lbs\|M20 Muncie\|3.73s\|Posi 1969 CST/10 383\|Aisin AR5 5 speed 1972 K5 350\|Turbo 350 4x4 2005 Duramax 2500HD 4x4

01-25-2010, 09:44 AM	#11
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? Just remember that the '71-72 rearends are wider than the '67-70. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

01-25-2010, 05:13 PM	#14
NC67Chev Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 698	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? I'm starting to think ahead on what I need to convert my 67 manual drum/drum to power front disc. I'm planning on keeping 6 lug. Anyway, I have a place that has plenty of front disc donors that I have access to. So, from what I'm reading, it sounds like it's possible to get everything from a donor and then add the 6 lug rotors from ECE. Is this correct? Thanks! __________________ 1967 Chevy C-10, 250 L6, Powerglide, 3.73, SWB, Fleetside Upgrades: Power steering, Offset air cleaner, Rear Sport bumper, 3 point safety belts, HEI, -1/-2 springs, 16x5 wheels, McGaughy's disc brake conversion, Sway bar

01-25-2010, 05:42 PM	#15
70STOVEBOLT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winona Lake, IN Posts: 6,414	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? You will have to use the tie rod ends from the 71-72 truck as well IIRC. __________________ 70 C/10 SWB 402/TH400/3.73 "The Needy Beast" 200,000 Mile Club Disc Brake Club Owner installed options: Front Sway Bar Power Steering Power Brakes Cigar Lighter Courtesy Lights Deluxe Side Markers Wiper Delay Sliding Rear Window Power Windows Power Locks Sniper EFI 2015 Silverado 1500 LS 4.3/6L80/3.23 lowered 2" front & rear

01-25-2010, 10:19 PM	#18
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? Should bolt right in for you... without any issues. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

01-25-2010, 10:19 PM	#19
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? Bolt for bolt it's the same. When I was at the junkyard I also grabbed the steering box, all the lines (rust free SC truck) and the power booster/mc and proportioning valve. Not 100% sure, I'm a little fuzzy on this, but I think that if you use your old steering box, I think you may need a 71/72 pitman arm for it, but if you get everything off of a 71/72, it will all bolt up. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 01-25-2010 at 10:28 PM.

03-27-2011, 05:49 PM	#20
Deenice21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: miami Posts: 118	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? so is there a kit that lets you keep your original 6 lug drum spindle and convert it to 6 lug disc? so kit would have caliper, rotors ect __________________ 1971 LWB C10 - 5.3/350 1970 SWB C10 - 5.3/4l60 or 6.2/4l80 not sure yet 1964 malibu ss - ls1/4l60 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=382403

03-27-2011, 06:55 PM	#21
1970C10truck Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Redding California Posts: 72	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? I have been considering the swap that uses the chevelle rotors and camaro calipers. One thing that bothers me is its an 11 inch rotor compared to the trucks 12 inch rotor. Being that my truck has front drums I would think that upgrading to disc would be a huge improvement even if they are smaller rotors. I haven't been able to find anyone with the conversation to ask how it actually works so I am waiting before I decide if that's how I want to do it. I want the car pattern for wheel choice and only use the truck as a street strip toy. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1970 C10 swb 350 4spd under construction

03-27-2011, 09:10 PM	#22
cerjio Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: coffeyville, Kansas Posts: 195	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? Guys dont forget to grab that Mastercylinder an powerbooster, also the proportioning valve



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06-24-2011, 10:43 AM	#23
66-PMD-GMC The 60-66 GMC/Pontiac guy.... Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Apache Junction, Arizona Posts: 1,306	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? OK, I know this is an old thread but I hope someone knows... WHO is ECE and where do I get JUST the 6 lug rotors that fit the 70-87 1 1/4" spindles??? __________________ Building Genuine Pontiac Firepowered cars and trucks for several decades. Why Pontiac?? That's just me daring to be different. Projects.. 63 C10 Short Wheel Base fleetside (The Pro-Street) currently under reconstruction. 440CID 2X4 Pontiac

06-24-2011, 11:27 AM	#25
66-PMD-GMC The 60-66 GMC/Pontiac guy.... Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Apache Junction, Arizona Posts: 1,306	Re: ECE 6 lug disc brake rotors? OK, thanks for the info on ECE. No, I don't want to keep the original spindles, I have a 5 lug 73-87 setup on my 63 and I want the 1-1/4" 6 lug rotors so I can keep my 6 lug wheels. Thanks __________________ Building Genuine Pontiac Firepowered cars and trucks for several decades. Why Pontiac?? That's just me daring to be different. Projects.. 63 C10 Short Wheel Base fleetside (The Pro-Street) currently under reconstruction. 440CID 2X4 Pontiac

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